Posted on 09/19/2013 5:38:42 AM PDT by expat1000
OK. Tell me about the gun shops in London. I have all day.
Sigh.
Guns are legal in the UK. Handguns were banned (most not all) after 1997 on the mainland, but are legal in NI, as is concealed carry (CC legal on the mainland only with permit).
Rifles and shotguns legal. Licence required for shotgun or rifle, no limit on buying as long as you have licence.
Air pistols and rifles not licenced.
In total, 2.3M legal firearms, mostly rifles and shotguns (which it has always been, handguns a minority and only really popular from 80s onwards due to films like Dirty Harry). Figure dosent include air weapons of course.
I dont know about London gun shops, but I can take you to mine, which is 2 mins from here.
I believe in Londonstan guns are totally illegal as in most of the UK proper. But since its a dying totalitarian nanny state soon to be part of the new Islamic caliphate “what difference does it make?”
Read post 42.
‘But since its a dying totalitarian nanny state soon to be part of the new Islamic caliphate “what difference does it make?”’
Yawn.
“Yawn “
Sounds like you don’t care either but here’s the difference between the UK and the US. If that little incident had happened on the street in GA Mr. GG2 would have pulled out the old Springfield .40 cal. Boom boom problem solved. Two dead criminals its a win win for all of society. In the UK those two miscreants are still running around creating havoc and will eventually hurt or kill someone.
The brits gave up their guns and now they are the servants of a totalitarian govt that is selling them down the river to Islam. Sad but true.
Thanks for the explanation. I knew there were legal guns, but they are heavily restricted. You have to realize my perspective...I live in AZ where you don’t even need a permit to carry concealed.
So the BBC has this wrong?
Nine years later, Thomas Hamilton killed 16 schoolchildren and their teacher when he opened fire at a school in Dunblane. Parliament banned all handguns and there is now a mandatory five-year jail sentence for possession.
They (we) didn't, since few of us had guns in the first place. The right to bear arms implies, ipso facto, the right not to bear arms - and that's a right most Britons have always cheerfully exercised. When handguns first became available in industrial quantities, the state of the nation was such that it would never have occurred to the average citizen that circumstances might arise in which he might need or want a gun: so the culture of gun ownership never became established here. Unless, that is, you were a sportsman or country-dweller needing to control vermin, in which case you had a shotgun or sporting rifle. Those have remained ever since the classes of gun most widely owned here, and they have never been banned.
Yes, they do.
There is close to a total ban on handguns in private hands, but it's not actually absolute. It is close enough that in media shorthand, it is not surprising it is referred to as a ban.
There are a few exemptions for 'genuine' collectors - but you can't just say you are a collector, and there's also provision for a person to have what is referred to as a licence for a 'personal protection weapon', in cases where there are special reasons, normally connected to previous government service, to think a person's life might be in specific danger. I have a PPW permit, but I don't expect to be allowed to renew it, because they keep tightening the regulations, and because so much time has elapsed between the reason I got it and today, that it's unlikely I'll convince the authorities, there's any danger left. The number of PPW licences in England is somewhere in the low thousands from what I have heard - or about 1 in 10,000 people at most. So it's extremely close to a ban, but technically isn't quite there.
Thanks for taking the time to explain the situation.
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