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Pentagon Proposes Boots On The Ground In Syrian Civil War (CNN video at link
FireDogLake ^ | 9/19/2013 | DSWright

Posted on 09/19/2013 7:27:20 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

Despite it being overwhelmingly clear that the American people want nothing to do with the civil war in Syria, the Pentagon has proposed entering the war. Under the proposal U.S. involvement will escalate from providing weapons to rebels via the CIA to direct support and training of rebel forces by the U.S. military.

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Uber-conservative website (sarcasm) rips this wide open ... for all to see and read about.
1 posted on 09/19/2013 7:27:20 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

Obama: no boots on the ground.

McCain: no boots on the ground.

Did Lindsey Graham, Peter King, Schumer, Boehner, Cantor, Reid, Pelosi and Steny Hoyer all say the same thing?

Just wondering...


2 posted on 09/19/2013 7:29:08 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I’m okay with boots on the ground - as long as they are full bird colonel or above that occupies them.


3 posted on 09/19/2013 7:30:34 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

and the politicians advocating any troops in Syria.


4 posted on 09/19/2013 7:31:33 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Of course...

and to keep our troops safe they wont have any of those nasty dangerous guns or ammo...


5 posted on 09/19/2013 7:33:08 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

No! No, more getting involved in matters that don’t concern us or advance our national security interests.


6 posted on 09/19/2013 7:39:37 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

It is as I suspected: the fix is in. We will see American troops deployed to Syria.

All the rest that you read is just Kabuki Theater for the reality-show junkies.


7 posted on 09/19/2013 7:40:10 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

What purpose would it serve to put our soldiers in harm’s way there, other than getting more of our finest young men and women killed and maimed? What progress would be served by our presence there?

There is no redeeming reason for us to put any of our people in Syria. It’s not going to change a thing in regard to “peace” and will probably contribute to more instability.

Assad sucks, but his opponents are worse. We should stay the heck out of this. We have no dog in this fight except to not allow the muslim extremists to take charge. Let Assad finish the battle and be done with it.


8 posted on 09/19/2013 7:40:52 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

This is a scenario that the pentagon was surely ordered to explore and report on.

No where does it state nor quote that the pentagon has an opinion or any advice on going into Syria. Nowhere does it say the pentagon proposed it except bunt the fictional headline.

This reads like a ‘the Vatican says...’ headline which invariably leads to no such finding in the article

I think direct communication is going to render these propagandists out of commission


9 posted on 09/19/2013 7:42:16 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

FDR: “I have said this before, but I shall say it again and again and again: Your boys are not going to be sent into any foreign wars.”


10 posted on 09/19/2013 7:43:30 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
To Obama, McCain, Graham, P. King, Schumer, Boehner, Cantor, Reid, Pelosi, Hoyer, Feinstein, Boxer and every other neo-whatever asshole who wants to intervene on the side of those subhuman, baby-murdering al-Qaeda terrorists...

YOU form the first wave and YOU put YOUR "boots" on the f***ing ground!!!


11 posted on 09/19/2013 7:44:22 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: CondorFlight

The State Dept. has long wanted to “solve” the Israeli-Arab conflict by putting US/NATO/UN “peacekeepers” around the borders of Israel (turning that nation into a giant ghetto)—
which would make Israeli retaliatory strikes impossible.

Next, after UN and EU resolutions, would come the “rollback” of Israel to the 1967 borders (as the entire would would demand); “pressured” or “forced” by the presence of US/NATO/UN troops (peacekeepers).

Somehow that starts with US troops in the Golan.

Watch for it...


12 posted on 09/19/2013 7:45:38 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Well at least they are honest: the CIA cultivates war.


13 posted on 09/19/2013 7:50:21 AM PDT by SisterK (Alex Jones is starting to make sense these days)
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To: ScottinVA

This will turn out really well.


14 posted on 09/19/2013 7:51:32 AM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Why limit boots on the ground to just training? Seems to me, if we are to aid Al-qaida, might as well have US forces lobbing scuds into Israel, making mayhem on Christians, issuing dull blades to US troops for application to necks, and, generally, free reign to reminisce like Ghengis Kahn...


15 posted on 09/19/2013 7:52:44 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

“What purpose would it serve...?”

War will be Obama’s economic stimulus part II.


16 posted on 09/19/2013 7:54:46 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Seen any scandal headlines lately?)
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To: Gaffer

Simply supplying rebels is an act of war.

Boots on the ground is an escalation.

I am just wondering how offended this admin will act when the Syrians start shooting back.

“Why are you attacking us?”


17 posted on 09/19/2013 7:55:07 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: C210N

The lesson learned in Greece in the late 40’s was that US trained and led native forces could be quite effective. Those forces are motivated warriors needing training and direction.

The problem is weapons. The rebels need artillery and some air power would help.

Now that chemical weapons are out of the picture, another causis beli must be discovered by the coalition supporting the rebels that is adequate to support a greater role sans the USA wimp

Note that the coalition has US trained special forces capable of doing the job and in need of more powerful weapons.


18 posted on 09/19/2013 7:58:32 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Gaffer

I am willing to parachute the entire congress in.
Lead by the CiC.


19 posted on 09/19/2013 7:58:44 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Gaffer

I’m okay with boots on the ground - as long as they are full bird colonel or above that occupies them.

___________________________

How about reserving that for the Obama appointees only?


20 posted on 09/19/2013 7:59:23 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Big surprise......they lied.
They couldnt tell the truth if their lives depended on it.
We are now the AQ allies.....that whole WTC/Pentagon and Shanksville thing never happened>
Enough to make a real American want to vomit.


21 posted on 09/19/2013 8:02:04 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

How short are the memories at the Pentagon?

OR

How many have to work for al Qaeda within the Pentagon
(or a Hexagon which should replace it given it cannot
follow its Oath to the Constitution) for the Pentagon
to forget 911, and AIDE, help, abet and assist al Qaeda?


22 posted on 09/19/2013 8:02:44 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: CondorFlight

I don’t know when FDR said that if he did but after Pearl Jarbor guys who couldn’t serve died of shame. They were not in there for FDR


23 posted on 09/19/2013 8:02:50 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Is this from the military side of DOD or the Obama appointed civilian side? Let me guess??


24 posted on 09/19/2013 8:07:20 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: elpadre

The military is being directed to plan operations for Syria.
There is no way that the military is pushing this option.
Training rebels in Jordan..defending Jordan and Israel is ok in my book. They are our allies. But sending troops in Syria? No way.


25 posted on 09/19/2013 8:13:53 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: MrEdd

I am willing to parachute the entire congress in.
Lead by the CiC.

************
I’d like to see the Nobel Peace Prize Committee dropped into the middle of Damascus


26 posted on 09/19/2013 8:20:42 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: rusty schucklefurd

Re: post 8

Please stop talking sense. Common sense and logic has no place in the conversation when an agenda is being pursued.

Thank you.


27 posted on 09/19/2013 8:26:24 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Training.

Then, advisors.

Then, combat troops.

Good morning, Vietnam.


28 posted on 09/19/2013 8:28:53 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: bert
Now that chemical weapons are out of the picture

Dont be so sure....

This posted in Breaking news today:

Obama OKs Chemical Weapons Aid to Syria (waives ITAR) ABC ^ | 9/16/2013 | Devin Dwyer

Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:55:38 AM by markomalley

The materials — including chemical weapons-related personal protective gear and medical supplies — will be sent to “vetted” members of the Syrian opposition, international aid groups inside Syria, and any other organizations working to “prevent the preparation, use, or proliferation of Syria’s chemical weapons,” an administration official said.

And the materials to go with the protective gear:

Germany defends chemical sales to Syria TheLocal.de ^ | 19 Sep 2013 08:55 CET | (The Local/tsb)

Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2013 6:04:28 AM by Olog-hai

Germany sold tonnes of chemicals to Syria which were capable of being put to military use. …

The chemicals sold have a dual use—they can be used for both military and non-military purposes. They include hydrogen fluoride, ammonium hydrogen fluoride and sodium cyanide. The export of the chemicals is restricted but not illegal, the Süddeutsche newspaper reported, as they are used in industry.

29 posted on 09/19/2013 8:32:24 AM PDT by spokeshave (While Zero plays silly card games like Spades - Putin plays for keeps.)
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To: Rennes Templar
War will be Obama’s economic stimulus part II.

Yeah, great stimulus, that.


30 posted on 09/19/2013 8:33:42 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little Sgirl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Yep. History is in the process of repeating itself.


31 posted on 09/19/2013 8:39:42 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (If govmt is stockpiling guns, ammo, food, & meds, don't you think it's a good idea to do the same?)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

This is probably coming from SecDef’s office (criminal corrupt civilian FedGov employees and appointees), not the JCS (actual military side of DOD).


32 posted on 09/19/2013 8:43:40 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: ScottinVA

Can you imagine what the jihadis will do to our troops if they capture some.Sickening and not worth 1 drop of American blood!


33 posted on 09/19/2013 8:53:36 AM PDT by seeker41 (take your country back by whatever means necessary)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

34 posted on 09/19/2013 9:26:12 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post))
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
By the time U.S. troops arrive Obama will have switched sides and be supporting Assad.
35 posted on 09/19/2013 9:30:06 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Old Sarge

Who do you think trained them re: using the weapons.

I’m sure there were boots from Mali, Mauritiana, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Jordan and other places we don’t know about.

Off-topic.

BTW, whatever happened to all the prison escapees we hear nothing about at Abu Ghraib, Taji, other Iraq prisons and in Afghanistan, Libya and Pakistan? That happened when the embassies were ‘closed’. I know some of them are involved in Syria as we speak.


36 posted on 09/19/2013 9:32:27 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray/Penance. Isa 5:18-21,10:1-3 "Tempus faciendi, Domine, dissipaverunt legem tuam")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Yeh. When I find myself agreeing with FireDogLake and Noam Chomsky more than I do with my own government, it's a pretty sad day.

The answer is NO. We tried this once, in Beirut, and it got a lot of good men killed for nothing. No, no, NO, NO!

37 posted on 09/19/2013 9:33:20 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Just some pathetic posturing by the Pentigon to give Obama cover...some Obama will “appear” less like a rat catching chicken-hawk.


38 posted on 09/19/2013 9:59:18 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: AliVeritas

I wouldn’t doubt that for a minute.

Welcome to the “Jihad Road Show”, opening in a 3rd-world backwater near you.


39 posted on 09/19/2013 10:00:14 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I’m not seeing how this is news. We (US) already have a unit in Jerdan doing exactly this: training rebels. Sounds more to me like Dempsey is angling for more money what with Afganyland winding down and all.?


40 posted on 09/19/2013 10:24:45 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I'm waiting for John Kerry to tell us they will be “incredibly small” boots.../sarc
41 posted on 09/19/2013 2:19:45 PM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

OK-— I guess the Saudis are pulling the strings. You know the ones that arm, train, supply the Islamic monsters that butcher Christian kids.

Oh and pay off politicians in DC.


42 posted on 09/19/2013 6:07:49 PM PDT by eleni121 ("All Along the Watchtower" Book of Isaiah, Chapter 21, verses 5-9)
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Saudis schmaudis. They don’t benefit bupkis either way. There’s another nation that DOES...and it ain’t us.


43 posted on 09/19/2013 11:13:08 PM PDT by Me1onCollie
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To: GeronL
Simply supplying rebels is an act of war.

Worse than that, it' basically a war against Christianity and Christians, who will have no place in Syria should the mobros win.

44 posted on 09/20/2013 12:26:27 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

This is put out there for one reason. If the government is shut down our troops won’t be paid!


45 posted on 09/20/2013 12:42:51 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: ScottinVA

I had a liberal say to me “Bush ought to send his daughters to the damned war in Iraq.” I doubt very seriously he is now saying “Obama should send his daughters to Syria.” I don’t know because I no longer speak to him.


46 posted on 09/20/2013 12:44:37 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: VerySadAmerican

A weird dynamic has gripped Americans since Obama came to power... I’ve lost liberal friends because of comments I’ve made about Obama... it’s amazing to see the adoration they have for him. Since libs don’t tend to have spiritual faith in anything except global warming “science,” their surrogate “god” tends to be Obama.... and even the slightest criticism of Obama results in screams of “blasphemy.”


47 posted on 09/20/2013 12:55:34 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: rusty schucklefurd
I think the "Dog in the Fight" could be the USD as world reserve currency.

Syria may be a "fence" for the transfer of USD to Yuan or at least a major leak. It could be an attempt to put a band aid on the femoral artery. Anyone who tries to flee the USD may get a visit from a carrier group http://www.transfermate.com/en/exchange_rates_table_syp_cny.asp

48 posted on 09/21/2013 12:21:19 PM PDT by KTM rider
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