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Poll: Republican voters have embraced libertarian values
United Liberty ^ | 9/12/13 | Jason Pye

Posted on 09/19/2013 9:45:28 AM PDT by shego

The libertarian philosophy is taking the Republican Party by storm, according to a poll conducted by FreedomWorks, a DC-based grassroots service center with over 6 million members.

With Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI) and many other liberty-minded politicians gaining influence, libertarianism has generated new interest inside the Republican Party, much to the chagrin of the GOP's political establishment....

"FreedomWorks' poll shows that 42 percent of Republicans have a favorable view of the word ‘libertarian,' and only 10 percent don't know the word, compared to 27 percent who don't know nationally," they added.

And the term "libertarian" may still turn off some Republican voters, the basic message of the philosophy earns significant favor. The poll found that 68% of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents agree with the statement that "individuals should be free to do as they like as long as they don't hurt others, and that the government should keep out of people's day-to-day lives."

What's more, an eye-popping 78% of Republicans consider themselves to be "fiscally conservative, but socially moderate," which is a significant finding given the debate in the GOP on social issues.

Looking outside of just the Republican box, the poll found that 66% of respondents consider themselves to fiscally conservative and socially moderate.

These numbers show that the libertarian message is appealing, not only to Republican voters, but also to all Americans; further advancing the case for conservative-libertarian fusionism as a way to promote free market ideals, limited government, and personal liberty....

(Excerpt) Read more at unitedliberty.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: 113th; 2013polls; freedom; gop; libertarian; libertarianism; libertarians; liberty; randpaul; smallgovernment; trends
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There is still time for a concerted effort to roll back Big Government, if we do not allow ourselves to be suckered by the political establishment or distracted by sideshow issues.
1 posted on 09/19/2013 9:45:28 AM PDT by shego
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To: shego

Some but libertarians will do all they can to destroy their gains.

It usually starts with this idiotic claim that they’re taking control.


2 posted on 09/19/2013 9:47:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: shego

The “Liberal” party won recent election in Australia.
That party is actually gets it name from being Libertarian.


3 posted on 09/19/2013 9:47:29 AM PDT by entropy12 (With no fear of re-election, Obama is becoming more radical left..thanks a lot all you who abstained)
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To: shego

No support for many of the libertarians from me. I am a Ted Cruz Tea Party Conservative.


4 posted on 09/19/2013 9:51:32 AM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: shego

Just allow anything? NO

Love of drugs? NO

IMO many are social liberals and fiscal conservatives, so I don’t think Republicans are going there unless you mean the current establishment ones.


5 posted on 09/19/2013 9:53:13 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

Libertarians are, IMO, just as evil as liberals.


6 posted on 09/19/2013 9:56:28 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: shego

DA-DA, see what a switch of party in WH can do??
After four years of GOP POTUS?


7 posted on 09/19/2013 9:58:54 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: shego
...78% of Republicans consider themselves to be "fiscally conservative, but socially moderate,"...

It's good to see the Pubs attract new voters, but Romney is the perfect example of what happens when our candidates are fiscally conservative and socially moderate. They lose.

Increasingly I find myself in that camp that is looking from the outside and thinking why should I vote for a party that doesn't have enough sense to understand we are not a bunch of barnyard animals.

8 posted on 09/19/2013 9:59:11 AM PDT by wmfights
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To: shego

We should retire the work libertarian. Some folks hear it and their brain just shuts down and they yell incoherently.


9 posted on 09/19/2013 9:59:53 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

work = word.


10 posted on 09/19/2013 10:00:11 AM PDT by DManA
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To: All

Yeah, Yeah, and before the election, conservatives were in high number.

These polls are meaningless because it is self perception and identification.

80% of Americans think they are middle class lol.


11 posted on 09/19/2013 10:06:25 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obam a's Socialist Agenda:)
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To: wmfights

Well, you’ve got a problem. If you think that about Republicans, what do you consider the dims think about you? A farm animal sexual partner? You are in a quandary, I’d hate being you.


12 posted on 09/19/2013 10:06:50 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: wmfights

Moderate is just a nice way to say “liberal.”


13 posted on 09/19/2013 10:10:28 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: SoldierDad

Social liberals for sure in many cases. Like a bunch of Kennedys.


14 posted on 09/19/2013 10:13:17 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: shego
Republican voters have embraced libertarian values

The Republican rank and file have always embraced freedom and liberty i.e. small l libertarian values. The GOPe has always embraced Big Government Crony Corporate Socialism-lite. I think the libertarian monkier is just being used by small government Republicans to differentiate themselves from the Lindseed Graham, Romenycare GOPe types.

15 posted on 09/19/2013 10:16:40 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: shego

Quick!

Don’t take those nasty conservatives seriously.

Look over here.

See the bright, shiny object?


16 posted on 09/19/2013 10:21:00 AM PDT by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don’t need to be mystified about a motive.)
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To: shego

I sure wish it was mandatory to print the full details of all poll questions because it makes a world of difference.

Conservatives “socially moderate”?

Well if you mean don’t force me to pay for others deviance YES. I am willing to live and let live (and let God sort it out)

If you mean, helping those, WHO THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, have fallen on hard times and need to get over the hump, YES.

If you mean equal work for equal pay, YES.

If you mean equal OPPORTUNITY, YES.

If you mean being OK with money I earned stolen by force and given to those who continue to make pi$$ poor life choices then NO.

If you mean government sponsored race based discrimination under the guise of Affirmative Action, NO.

If you mean equal outcome over equal opportunity, NO.


17 posted on 09/19/2013 10:21:26 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: katiedidit1

“I am a Ted Cruz Tea Party Conservative”

Cruz is pro-liberty also.

And so was Reagan:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg0Axyvlkm0&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DDg0Axyvlkm0

“I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism” -Ronald Reagan


18 posted on 09/19/2013 10:24:28 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: shego

The reason more people are considering themselves libertarians is that the libertarians has started to shed the nut image and conservatives lost their way on big government. IMHO, the two have met rather than true conservatives converting to libertarian.


19 posted on 09/19/2013 10:24:52 AM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I don’t think Ronald Reagan would be celebrating gay marriage and bringing kids to pot festivals.


20 posted on 09/19/2013 10:25:24 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

“the libertarian monkier is just being used by small government Republicans to differentiate themselves from the Lindseed Graham, Romenycare GOPe types.”

Bingo!


21 posted on 09/19/2013 10:25:28 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: shego

this thread was on here a week ago.

Also if one wants to get rid of the CIA, FBI, have no sex age laws, get rid of all drug laws, allow public sex, nudity, sell drugs outside schools, open borders, small military, sex with animals, have incest, beastiality and homosexuality taught in schools etc then fine but that is more to do with anarchists and radical liberals, hell even most liberals will not go that loony.


22 posted on 09/19/2013 10:27:04 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: DManA
Some folks hear it and their brain just shuts down and they yell incoherently.

Amen!!!

"Liberal" was corrupted beyond recognition. Today's "conservative" bears little resemblance to what we were in the 60's/70's. Now, people have this bizarre caricature of libertarianism that has no relation to the actual cause.

If you think the name calling is bad here, check what lefties say about libertarianism! Whenever the word comes up, people just scream names. That shows times are finally changing.

23 posted on 09/19/2013 10:29:46 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: GeronL

Dude, I’m not having that discussion again. Reagan was not in favor of gay marriage, I’m not in favor of gay marriage and most libertarians are not in favor of gay marriage.

The people in favor of gay marriage are the ones who want government to be involved.

Gay marriage was created by government.

Libertarians warned you about this, but you big government establishment types didn’t listen.


24 posted on 09/19/2013 10:30:05 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

me thinks, that Reagan was not for homosexuality, sex with animals, have public sex with kids aged 14 years old, allow all drugs, get rid of the FBI, CIA , smaller military which only stays in America etc.

Course I could be wrong but I seriously doubt Reagan was for all that.

ARF


25 posted on 09/19/2013 10:30:45 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Weird you say that because many libertarians have said that have no problem with any kind of marriage even with animals and it was communists which pushed homosexuality to be normal .


26 posted on 09/19/2013 10:32:23 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: shego

they can be as “socially moderate” as they want, but the reason those values are part of the conservative message is because they prevent harm to individuals, groups, communities, culture.


27 posted on 09/19/2013 10:33:00 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: shego

\Just signed up so you might have missed this same thread last week, might want to ask the mods to bin it.


28 posted on 09/19/2013 10:33:51 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: xzins

Bingo, it was all working till the anarchists came in and destroyed traditions, communities, groups etc


29 posted on 09/19/2013 10:34:45 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Libertarians, like Glenn Beck, are in favor of gay marriage. Nobody is fooled by denials. And why do they favor it? Because they have the same goal as the homo perverts, the destruction of the institution of marriage which is the bedrock of civilization.

Just like libertarians are in favor of amnesty, open borders, abortion at any date, drug use and sex for/with anyone and abolition of the age of consent.

They won’t usually admit to it openly but here and there they do.

The anti-civilization crowd is a leftist-libertopian coalition


30 posted on 09/19/2013 10:35:36 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Reagan was not a libertarian either.


31 posted on 09/19/2013 10:38:39 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: shego

How convenient.


32 posted on 09/19/2013 10:40:15 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The GOP establishment is like a dodo bird: Not too bright and on its way to extinction.)
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To: GeronL

think liberaltarians sound great when they shout no Govt, more freedom etc.

Course ask a few questions, delve a little into their minds and it become obvious what they’re pushing is perverted and sick.

Sex with 14 year olds in front of a school for all to see, sex with animals, all kinds of marriage, no CIA, FBI, on borders, drugs galore, no drinking and riving laws, no driving under drugs, no speed limits, no stop signs, no nothing but anarchy.
Hell I had one guy tell me to make incest legal , under age sex legal and why have crime laws.

Thankfully the sicko was banned


33 posted on 09/19/2013 10:40:44 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

So my idea for a store selling moonshine, marijuana, methamphetamine, and machine guns located between the Pentecostal Church and the nursing home, across the street from the elementary school troubles your mind?

Interestingly, there are also great dangers in the drugs used in the nursing home, the dumbing down and socialism done in the school, and the snakes and strychnine fooled with in the church.

Stop looking to the government to keep you safe or save your soul. The only purposes of the government are to enforce property rights and protect our borders.

YOU CANNOT ENFORCE MORALITY!


34 posted on 09/19/2013 10:42:03 AM PDT by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture)
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To: fwdude
Moderate is just a nice way to say “liberal.”

I agree.

Now we are suppose to embrace the "anything goes crowd" and disregard 4,000 years of Judeo-Christian history. We are supposed to throw out God given quidelines on how we are supposed to live and replace it with "as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else it's fine".

35 posted on 09/19/2013 10:42:57 AM PDT by wmfights
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To: manc

If one prisoner has lice, that’s not a problem for the rest of the prison, is it?

If that’s what he wants, then leave him alone.

/sarc


36 posted on 09/19/2013 10:43:35 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

You and your little 44 second 1970s video where Reagan uses the catchy word of the time, libertarian (once) and then proceeds to explain his conservatism.

Reagan was a conservative and not a libertarian, he made that clear in his 1975 interview with the libertarian magazine while he was campaigning, first Reagan said something friendly about their common path on economics, and then he proceeded to argue against their social leftism and liberalism in regards to national defense.


37 posted on 09/19/2013 10:46:33 AM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: GeronL
I don’t think Ronald Reagan would be celebrating gay marriage and bringing kids to pot festivals.

No, that generation was a little more straight laced than that. Even Lyn Nofziger said he didn't hang out with the Reagans because they didn't drink enough for his liking.

38 posted on 09/19/2013 10:48:09 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: manc

The issue is that there are differences between leaning or being Libertarian in ideology, being a supporter of the Libertarian Party and being an Anarchist (traditional sense, not the kiddies who put on black masks and loot Starbucks to show their opposition to globalism.)

Unfortunately the three tend to be lumped together, deliberately, in order to undermine the ability to find enough common ground between the Libertarian-leaning and Conservatives to win elections on commonsense themes like limited government, privacy and individual rights and liberties.


39 posted on 09/19/2013 10:51:02 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

I am personally socially conservative but I don’t think these issues are any of the government’s business.

What party does that put me in?


40 posted on 09/19/2013 10:55:14 AM PDT by DManA
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To: manc
Hell I had one guy tell me to make incest legal , under age sex legal

Pedophilia is a social position that the libertarians have dealt with a little, and so far, their only action was to vote against taking a stand against it.

So their vote so far, is, pro-pedophilia.

41 posted on 09/19/2013 10:56:21 AM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: DManA
I am personally socially conservative but I don’t think these issues are any of the government’s business. What party does that put me in?

The Ted Kennnedy/Rino party of "I'm personally opposed to abortion/gay marriage, whatever, but.........".

42 posted on 09/19/2013 10:58:45 AM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: shego

All the venom here from conservatives for a group of people who, if were somehow put in power tomorrow would commit the horrible act of....leaving people alone unless they were harming somebody and expect the same treatment in return. Seriously, folks, if you can’t find common cause with people who want nothing from you but to be left alone, you better get used to being a very unhappy minority because it’s not like there are any groups out there knocking others out of the way to stand with you.


43 posted on 09/19/2013 10:59:15 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: ansel12

Abortion is the strong killing the weak. I oppose that always.


44 posted on 09/19/2013 11:01:39 AM PDT by DManA
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To: ansel12

Also the Kennedys and the Rinos want to control everything, which as I said, if you’d listened, is exactly the OPPOSITE of what I favor.


45 posted on 09/19/2013 11:04:27 AM PDT by DManA
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To: shego

translation: Okay, we cry Uncle! We’ll let you smoke your weed if you’ll just get this friggin’ gargantuan government off our backs!


46 posted on 09/19/2013 11:14:33 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: DManA

This is exactly what I mean about people’s brains shutting down.


47 posted on 09/19/2013 11:15:06 AM PDT by DManA
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To: shego
Re: “66% of [ALL] respondents consider themselves to be fiscally conservative.....”

This poll is useless.

Two years ago, total government spending in the USA almost reached the same level as in World War 2.

Then, the 66% of voters who claim to be “fiscal Conservatives,” went to the polls and reelected Barack Obama.

This is just one more example of people stealing the “Conservative” label when it suits their vanity or their political purpose.

48 posted on 09/19/2013 11:22:21 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: shego

Socially moderate Republicans are silent when business owners are punished for practicing their faith. Guess being Libertarian only matters when it means supporting gay rights.


49 posted on 09/19/2013 11:25:58 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: RginTN

When your brain shuts down you make bad guesses.


50 posted on 09/19/2013 11:28:05 AM PDT by DManA
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