Skip to comments.Pope Francis: Catholic Church must focus beyond "small-minded rules"
Posted on 09/19/2013 2:46:04 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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I seem to remember that some where, in church and Sunday School I was admonished to “love the sinner and hate the sin.” If I, as a person cannot do that, cannot God? Jesus and God loves us, despite our sins. We have the obligation to repent our sins for salvation. I see the Pope’s words as saying the same thing: God loves each of us, but not our sins. And he was not avoiding the question, but turning it on the hostile questioner, something I remember from logic and rhetoric class in college 45 years ago and have used it when appropriate.
Did you read the CBS report, or the report with his actual words I linked to in my post #9. Remember, the MSM has no desire to give any positive view of Pope Francis. They want to make him into their secular humanist/pagan world view and warping his quotation to have him saying what makes them feel good about their secular and anti-Christian beliefs.
You are quite incorrect. He is teaching people about how to confront sinners...as Jesus did with the adulterous woman. He healed her through His MERCY and forgiveness. He most certainly is NOT condoning sin...and he never will.
People need to really understand the motives of what and how the press reports what Pope Francis says and does.
“I see the Popes words as saying the same thing: God loves each of us, but not our sins.”
Could you point to the specific quote from the Pope, where he is loving we sinners, yet not our sins.
Perhaps I missed this part, but he seems to be calling for balance, where the weights are measured against Christian morals. The “balance” was JPII and Benedict.
What a man! Truly a man of this world
This proceeded to get 131 thumbs up.
But I thought the same thing:
If you belonged to the world, the world would love its own; but because you do not belong to the world, and I have chosen you out of the world, the world hates you.
Yep: Love is God.
You are welcome!
...though our prayers will do so much more than our words with those who approach such things with their minds already leaning in a critical direction.
Let’s just pray...and give them all to HIM who loves them in spite of it all. His ways are above our ways with this...
Only by Catholics.
The rest of us peons know better. :)
Nice try to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear. This Pope is going to be a liberation theology liberal disaster. I smelled it from the beginning and every day it’s being proved more true.
He’s NOT saying that abortion is okay. He’s saying that we don’t start with the negatives first when we’re trying to convert people.
The Church is our Mother, something that people have forgotten since Vatican II, when the Church suddenly became a politicized bureaucracy. Our Mother calls to us and brings us back to Her, and through her to Her Son, Jesus, and we don’t have to be perfect to hear the call and respond. And we can even fall and come back once we’re there.
This doesn’t diminish the teachings of the Church on abortion, homosexuality, or anything else: it simply says that our first duty is to call to people, just as Our Lord did.
“He is teaching people about how to confront sinners...as Jesus did with the adulterous woman. He healed her through His MERCY and forgiveness. He most certainly is NOT condoning sin...and he never will.”
True. But Francis omits the last part of that action in this interaction he discusses. There is no, “...and go and sin no more.”
You are correct. Unfortunately, the words he uses allows people the wiggle room to believe he does, the way Bernardin's Seamless Garment gave cover to abortion supporters. I don't believe that is his intention but that is the result.
Not when it comes to religion or God. The MSM always report that faithfully.
You should read the comments on this article at the Daily Mail UK.
The atheists and gays are lovin’ him!
thank you for posting this in full. Hopefully some who’ve used the biased CBS selective quotation to criticize Pope Francis, will read it and reconsider. And recognize that they were led astray by an article designed to cause such confusion among Christ’s followers.
Methinks that is the most sensible thing I have ever heard a Catholic say.
Creepily stated, mamzelle. :)
Sorry, he's been carrying on for months now....and his "social justice" mentality seems to be running amok, not the other way around. He's not THAT new to the media world that he doesn't know how to voice things in terms that it doesn't frighten conservative and traditional Catholics half to death.
I had bad vibes about this Pope from the git-go. I will pray that he straightens up and flies RIGHT.
I will blame the media for a lot of things, but not this story.
The Pope's own quotes are used in the story, and not out of context.
Amen - and it seem like those days are fast approaching.
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