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Labor Dept: Same-Sex Spouses Must Receive Benefits Regardless of State Laws
Breitbart's Big Government ^ | September 19, 2013 | Wynton Hall

Posted on 09/19/2013 4:42:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

On September 18, the Obama Labor Department announced that married same-sex couples must receive the same pensions, 401(k)s, health plans, and employee benefits as heterosexual married couples, regardless of whether they live in one of the 37 states where same-sex marriage is illegal.

"This decision represents a historic step forward toward equality for all American families," said Labor Secretary Thomas Perez. "I have directed the department's agency heads to ensure that they are implementing the decision in a way that provides maximum protection for workers and their families."

The Labor Department said its interpretation "provides a uniform rule of recognition that can be applied with certainty by stakeholders, including employers, plan administrators, participants, and beneficiaries."(continued)

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KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; bho44; bhodol; bhohomosexualagenda; gaymarriage; gaystapo; homonaziagenda; homonazism; homopsychoagenda; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; homotyranny; moralabsolutes; obama; obamacare; samesexmarriage; tenthamendment
There goes the q0th Amendment.
1 posted on 09/19/2013 4:42:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
and to think some keep saying how the homosexual agenda and their crap doesn't cause any problems
2 posted on 09/19/2013 4:43:55 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

More Federal takeover...TAKE BACK STATE’S RIGHTS. The Revolution is coming, folks.


3 posted on 09/19/2013 4:44:13 PM PDT by Hildy (Falling down is how you grow. Staying down is how you die.Oman go who so obviously killed her little)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is Thomas Perez ready to be fired for this?


4 posted on 09/19/2013 4:44:36 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Killing America's Christian foundation, one edict at a time..

YES MASSA!

5 posted on 09/19/2013 4:47:42 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Your puny states! What does it matter?! We have all the power! HaHaHaHaHaHa!”


6 posted on 09/19/2013 4:48:31 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: Hildy

Go for an Article V amendment convention first.


7 posted on 09/19/2013 4:48:43 PM PDT by Jacquerie (An Article V amendment convention of the states is our only hope.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Impeachable Offense Number One Hundred and Fifty-...

Oh, nevermind...

8 posted on 09/19/2013 4:52:16 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: manc

Just wait till bestiality is made a legal form of marriage.

I want to be around when some govt employee asks if his wife (an Ass/Donkey) can get the same benefits as a man and wife couple.

Actually I want to have a videocamera when that happens.

The guy could also say, my Ass is equal to your wife, and has two more legs, to boot.

I could go on for years on the potential of human-animal marriage esp. since we have the second example residing in the White House today.

The first example was Ted “The Cape Cod Orca” and which ever wife he had besides his groupies.

Stop me before I go on! NOT!


9 posted on 09/19/2013 4:53:29 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“There goes the 10th Amendment.”

I wish that a Governor would tell the Feds to “shove off, or come and arrest me.”

Watching Obama handle Syria and something about watching the Fed cops handle Boston has convinced me that, if you want to succeed in breaking away from the Feds, the time is right now.


10 posted on 09/19/2013 4:54:30 PM PDT by Noamie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The King approves and so directs...

Long Live The King!!

11 posted on 09/19/2013 4:56:30 PM PDT by Gritty (Nobody wants to hear about American exceptionalism when the issue is American ineffectualism-MSteyn)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Calling all Virginians.....
Guess which way McAwful will go on this.....


12 posted on 09/19/2013 4:56:53 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama: all gay, all the time.


13 posted on 09/19/2013 4:59:42 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Why haven't we heard from the 30 Benghazi survivors?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

how about no

feds you are not our bosses

eff off


14 posted on 09/19/2013 5:04:46 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

but but but it’s all in the name of marriage equality or others could say no Govt , freedom


15 posted on 09/19/2013 5:27:31 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“There goes the 10th Amendment.”
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I sure hope not. This is an outrageous agency edict that has no legal basis other than sheer dictatorial fiat. Obummer has put these queers in power and their irrational inclination is to stick it to normal people in every way they know how. They are not only sick gender wise, they are egotistical maniacs.
16 posted on 09/19/2013 5:30:53 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: johniegrad
"Is Thomas Perez ready to be fired promoted for this?"

Fixed it.

17 posted on 09/19/2013 5:35:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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Tolerance -> Acceptance -> Compliance


18 posted on 09/19/2013 5:48:23 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bump


19 posted on 09/19/2013 5:52:49 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

10th Amendment much?


20 posted on 09/19/2013 5:58:54 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Gene Eric

Add “Celebrate” to that movement.


21 posted on 09/19/2013 5:59:24 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

“Just wait till bestiality is made a legal form of marriage.”\

You’re seeing an example of it in the white hut.


22 posted on 09/19/2013 6:00:44 PM PDT by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So in 37 States (44 for Obama) gay marrage is illegal, however we have to follow the wishes of a few. I thought this guy was all about the majority.
23 posted on 09/19/2013 6:31:14 PM PDT by goodtomato (I'm really, really blessed!)
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To: RS_Rider

Which one is the human?


24 posted on 09/19/2013 6:38:49 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: butterdezillion

Great, pay them out of Democrat party savings.


25 posted on 09/19/2013 6:40:32 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So is this saying that private employers have to give the same benefits to same-sex “spouses” as to genuine husbands and wives?


26 posted on 09/19/2013 6:42:41 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: butterdezillion
So is this saying that private employers have to give the same benefits to same-sex “spouses” as to genuine husbands and wives?

Yup, that's exactly how I read it. At first I thought it was just for DoL employees, but it looks like it's a nationwide edict applying to ALL employers.


27 posted on 09/19/2013 6:46:31 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There goes the 10th Amendment.

10th Amendment?!?!?

Forget that. There goes Article I of the US Constitution.
28 posted on 09/19/2013 6:48:26 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Marriage= 1 Man + 1 Woman

Anything else is a lie and an abomination. Doesn’t matter who says it’s not. This is spitting at God’s natural laws of creation.

29 posted on 09/19/2013 6:48:36 PM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD? Habakkuk 2;Isaiah 55)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It seems that the states no longer have any rights to govern themselves under the monster obamanation, might as well dump them all and begin again. Starting with DC and all liberal states, worthless, evil and hellbent monsters that hate themselves and all mankind.


30 posted on 09/19/2013 7:30:45 PM PDT by kindred ( God is just and the justifier of him that believes in Jesus.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I believe this is a violation of the 10th Amendment....


31 posted on 09/19/2013 7:39:50 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The q0th Amendment???


32 posted on 09/19/2013 8:13:29 PM PDT by SoCal SoCon (Conservatism =/= Corporatism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Never mind. I just figured out you meant the 10th Amendment.


33 posted on 09/19/2013 8:14:28 PM PDT by SoCal SoCon (Conservatism =/= Corporatism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who died and made him king?


34 posted on 09/19/2013 8:29:48 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: tanknetter

I have a feeling companies are going to drop their 401k plans.

I’m glad I’m at an age that none of this crap is really going to affect me. And I don’t give a damn about the following generations of liberals. I do feel for those who are against this kind of thing and worry about their grandkids.


35 posted on 09/19/2013 8:31:54 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: 444Flyer

You’ve got that right. Fedzilla is placing itself as god and demanding obedience to its lies and crimes against nature and perversion of the language and culture.

Isn’t the beast system obvious enough for people yet?


36 posted on 09/19/2013 9:47:01 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Ezekiel
The homosexual promoters are moving through this land like a swarm of locusts. Attempting to devour everything good and decent and leaving devastation in their path.
37 posted on 09/19/2013 10:20:59 PM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD? Habakkuk 2;Isaiah 55)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t understand how a 401k can be affected by marriage. Straight or otherwise.


38 posted on 09/20/2013 12:11:19 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: tanknetter; butterdezillion
So is this saying that private employers have to give the same benefits to same-sex “spouses” as to genuine husbands and wives?

Yup, that's exactly how I read it. At first I thought it was just for DoL employees, but it looks like it's a nationwide edict applying to ALL employers.

I'm guessing that if they force employers to do this, then government should force them to cover "live-in"partners...those not legally married but have lived together for over 5 years or so. Same difference, IMO.

39 posted on 09/20/2013 3:49:52 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Guns are not the problem. People are. Forget the magazine...check your attitude.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The dykes and coprophiliacs have made great headway returning civilization to the standards of Sodom.


40 posted on 09/20/2013 4:47:07 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: beachn4fun

At this point, if they’re going to go down this road of recognizing same sex marriages and long-term cohabitation (as you suggest) they should at least apply some of the more onorous consequences of marriage to them as well. Like the marriage penalty.

I actually wonder if non imposition of the marriage penalty, etc, for same sex marriages recognized as legit by the DoL would be grounds for a challenge under the equal protections clause of the 14th Amendment ...


41 posted on 09/20/2013 5:17:00 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

It is even more twisted than this reads. I got the notice for my company yesterday. It actually spells out that I have to accommodate gay married couples, regardless of whether my state recognizes the marriage, and specifically tells me not to recognize other forms of relationship such as a civil union or long term co-habitation, which may be recognized by the state. So it is a direct encouragement for a gay couples to become married, even if they aren’t on the militant edge that is pushing for that. It is purely a drive to get the marriage numbers up so the “institution” of gay marriage is mainstreamed. The lengths to which these fascists will go to push their agenda is unbounded.


42 posted on 09/20/2013 6:26:00 AM PDT by carolinadad
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To: VerySadAmerican

I have a feeling companies are going to drop their 401k plans.

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Highly unlikely. If it were only underlings who utilized 401k’s, you might have a point. But managers, directors, and upper management have been contributing for years to their companies’ 401k’s. They’re not going to want to dismantle the plans.


43 posted on 09/20/2013 6:38:13 AM PDT by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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To: VerySadAmerican

I don’t understand how a 401k can be affected by marriage. Straight or otherwise.

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I believe it comes into play with the beneficiary rules.


44 posted on 09/20/2013 6:42:10 AM PDT by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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To: carolinadad

there’s a good deal of spitefulness involved too. This is the Obama Admins way of throwing the middle finger for Perez’ confirmation filibuster.


45 posted on 09/20/2013 7:15:21 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hadn’t thought about this consequence of the Supreme Court’s decision when it found a portion of DOMA to be unconstitutional.

Basically, the Supreme Court decision told the feds that the states had the right to marry whomever they wanted and the feds could not ignore the rights of the states. Therefore, if California said you were legally married, then you were legally married for federal purposes too.

So... the feds can’t “unmarry” a legally married couple when it comes to imposition of federal law.

ERISA is federal law. It sets certain requirements for qualified plans such as 401k’s. Spouses have certain rights according to ERISA. Since it is federal law, the feds have to recognize legally married spouses which includes same sex couples. What this announcement from the Department of Labor is saying is that when a legally married couple moves to a state which does not recognize their marriage, they are still married in the eyes of the original state and, therefore, in the eyes of the feds. Moving to a different state does not “unmarry” them. The states which don’t allow same sex marriages can still ignore those couples for state purposes, but they don’t have a say over how the feds treat them. At least that’s my reading of what took place.


46 posted on 09/20/2013 7:21:47 AM PDT by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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