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His Holiness seems to be living in an alternate universe. Most peoples' connection with Church doctrine comes in the form of Mass homilies. When was the last time you heard a homily on abortion, contraception or homosexual behavior. I don't see the "obsession"!
1 posted on 09/20/2013 6:49:48 AM PDT by schmootman
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Your Holiness,

Liberals are obsessed with gays, abortion, and birth control.

Sincerely,

lesko


2 posted on 09/20/2013 6:53:31 AM PDT by lesko
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If he denies that these are vital issues in the RCC and every other denomination, he is blind. Just because he says it, that does not make it true.


3 posted on 09/20/2013 6:53:57 AM PDT by shankbear (The tree of Liberty appears to be perishing because there are few patriots willing to refresh it.)
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hummm, I don’t know what to make of this, perhaps we’ll know more shortly.


4 posted on 09/20/2013 6:54:45 AM PDT by exPBRrat
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“I see clearly,” the pope continues, “that the thing the church needs most today is the ability to heal wounds and to warm the hearts of the faithful; it needs nearness, proximity. I see the church as a field hospital after battle. It is useless to ask a seriously injured person if he has high cholesterol and about the level of his blood sugars! You have to heal his wounds. Then we can talk about everything else. Heal the wounds, heal the wounds…. And you have to start from the ground up.

I know what the Pope means here, and he’s right: there is so very much more to Christianity than its teachings on sexuality and abortion. But this is where I think he goes badly wrong: his remarks will be received as the Pope saying that this stuff doesn’t matter all that much. Francis can’t claim he was misquoted or that the article gave the wrong emphasis, because he personally approved it before publication. He may not have intended it this way, but it will be taken as such by a people, especially in Europe and North America, who have closed their hearts and minds to the Church’s unchanging message on these topics, precisely because these are the hardest things for modern people to accept.

Look at the weight the media, who amplify his words, put on the homosexuality, contraception, and abortion parts of a very long interview. The world wants to be told, “It’s okay, do what you like.” He no doubt doesn’t mean at all for that to be the lesson of his words, but that’s how they will be received.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/pope-francis-the-era-of-jp2-benedict-is-over/


5 posted on 09/20/2013 6:57:21 AM PDT by massmike (Why doesn't Obama just declare Syria a "chemical weapons-free zone"?)
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“Obsessed”? Liberals use this word often when they want to make a moral standard illegitimate.
6 posted on 09/20/2013 7:00:41 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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Makes me glad I’m not dependent on a “man” for my understanding of our Lord. This MAN is turning out to be a buffoon.


7 posted on 09/20/2013 7:03:54 AM PDT by Artcore
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Agreed, but churches are being forced into positions by society where they must defend their stand, and in so doing it seems, at least outwardly, that the Gospel becomes secondary.

The church is called upon by God to be a plumb line for society to use in measuring how far or near it is to the mark.

I am not Roman Catholic, but that is how I read the Pope's remarks.

8 posted on 09/20/2013 7:05:52 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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I’ll read the original remarks and not the spin that the NY Slimes puts on it.


9 posted on 09/20/2013 7:08:51 AM PDT by Mercat
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I posted the interview yesterday, and the NY Slimes is woefully and willingly wrong....the Pope’s message was not what the headline implies.

The Pope is, I think, speaking without regard as to how his words will be misconstrued by the mass media.


11 posted on 09/20/2013 7:10:15 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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It’s in reaction to the supporters of gays and abortion being so “obsessed” with the Church.


13 posted on 09/20/2013 7:12:52 AM PDT by dfwgator
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From his past comments it seems to me that the Pope is just as “obsessed” by these topics to have discussed them at length. How about the Pope really putting his money where his mouth is and getting rid of some of his blasphemous bishops?


15 posted on 09/20/2013 7:19:04 AM PDT by onedoug
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Maybe Francis doesn’t attend Mass on a regular basis. I only remember one visiting priest warning us about gays getting into the priesthood. i am also a three time Grand Knight. I NEVER heard anything about Contraception and we only talk about Abortion when we make a donation the the Respect Life committee and add something to the end of the Pledge of Allegiance. (You’ll have to become a 1st Degree Knight to find out what it is).


18 posted on 09/20/2013 7:25:31 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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What was that saying ... “Let he who is without sin ...”?


21 posted on 09/20/2013 7:26:56 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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Seems to me like the MSM is doing their typical fast-and-loose translation from the original Italian.


22 posted on 09/20/2013 7:26:58 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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I read the interview. I may have missed it because it is long, but don’t see that the Pope used the word obsessed like the NYT says he did. Anyone else got more info?


23 posted on 09/20/2013 7:30:11 AM PDT by amihow
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This dude is a serious dissappouintment

“obsessed” with the vicious murder of children?

Yes, if you want to call it that


28 posted on 09/20/2013 7:48:03 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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Is Francis, "Peter the Roman" ??
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

33 posted on 09/20/2013 7:54:31 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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Don't read the Times analysis of the Pope's words or message. The Church's stance has not changed. He said, in one portion of the speech, that these handful of issues are not the only things that we should be talking about. Basically, it's all that AND MORE that needs to be said and done.

The Times would have you think the Pope is okay with gay marred priests paying for abortions.

Plenty of Libs like to remind me that Jesus went to me sinners. They conveniently forget the part where he urges them to turn away from sin. He didn't condemn the adulterer -- but he did tell her to go and sin no more.

39 posted on 09/20/2013 8:18:37 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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I think he is barking up the wrong tree. The embrace of a more conservative, less Vatican II, papacy has been very popular except among the left and those that despise the church, always have and always will.

People look to the church for moral stability, not revolution theology, not trendy cultural fashion, nor internationalism outside of their faith.

Thus the papacy should call for greater charity from the wealthy, not higher taxes on the wealthy to supposedly benefit the poor; they should call for governments to reform and embrace the faith, and by doing so to invite prosperity, not for refugees to flee their homes and emigrate to other lands; and the papacy should have long ago learned that socialism is a dead end that causes suffering, not liberation.


42 posted on 09/20/2013 8:55:39 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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This pope is a disaster. Yet what can one expect from one who follows in the footsteps (ideologically) of John XXIII and Paul VI.


45 posted on 09/20/2013 9:00:59 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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