Skip to comments.Hold the line! Defund ObamaCommieCare!! Hell, defund the entire unconstitutional federal behemoth!!
Posted on 09/20/2013 11:16:00 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Great first step today by the House!
Now the bill goes to the Senate and there's no doubt they'll change it to fund ObamaCare. And then the House must hold the line! Reject the Senate's changes! Defund/kill ObamaCommieCare before it kills us!!
If Obama/Reid follow through with their threats to shutdown the government, then the adults in the House, with the full backing of the people, will have an opportunity to pass appropriation bills to fund the essential departments of government department by department.
The first appropriations bill to pass should be social security and medicare. This will set the stage for all to follow. The democrat senate won't dare fail to pass it if they wish to hold their seats in 2014. Then pass a bill to fund the defense department. Then the federal courts, the congress, the post office, etc., and cut the budgets where needed (ie, everywhere). Again, just fund the essentials. To hell with the unconstitutional federal functions that are reserved to the states.
Zero for the EPA! Zero for the federal departments of commerce, labor, energy, transportation, agriculture, housing, health, education and welfare, etc., etc., etc. Return all these functions to the states and the people per the U.S. Constitution!
Hold the line!!
Defund the federal behemoth!!
Call, write, visit your reps!! Hold the line!! Defund it!!
Great plan. Let see if the Senate is willing to shut down each individual agency one at a time. Then when we have all of the essential provided for, we stop. Maybe this is the way we should do it every time from now on.
Just got an e-mail from Rinse Pre-bus.... saying “We Did IT!”
Yeah! And all thanks to you... /sar
From the e-mail:
“By a vote of 230 to 189, the Republican majority in the House defeated Nancy Pelosi and Democrat opposition.”
GOP-E defeated as well.
Damned right it is. It’s their constitutional duty. It’ll take a lot more time to fully debate and pass/reject each bill, but that’s fine. As a bonus, it will keep them out of mischief.
Well done, Jim. But I’d suggest one change in your order. Defense first. We are at war, and I suspect you’d agree with me when I say our troops should lack for nothing.
Great job, Rinse Pre-bus!! But you can bet your sweet bippie Tokyo Rove will be spitting mad.
Only works when the GOP has a majority in at least one House of Congress.
When “Amnesty” passes - with the avid support of many Republicans - Democrats will take permanent control of the White House and Congress within a few elections.
ObamaCare is a critical battle.
But the war will be won or lost on the “Amnesty” issue.
French surrender monkey at heart...
Well, I went with SS first because the democrats won’t dare block it. Defense will require more debate.
I’ll continue to up the efforts to my so called Senators. However... since one of my Senators is a clown (Al Franken), I’m going to have to resort to bribery. I’m going to send him some more diapers, balloons, fake rabbit ears, hell... maybe he needs a new clown car.
I like it!
Well, this is FR! We fight for the constitution and our God-given Liberty here. No surrender, no retreat! We place no trust in the weak-kneed RINOs, but we must push them and push them hard now that they’ve decided to stiffen their backbones a bit (thanks to prodding by the grassroots tea party). Hold the line Republicans!! You’ve got the hun on the run if you follow through!!
Maybe not, you don't know if you don't try.
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. ― Samuel Adams
Here is another one that might apply.
"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the galleys, heard in the very hall of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitorhe speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and wears their face and their garment, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nationhe works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a cityhe infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared".......Cicero, 42 B.C.E.
I wonder just how much money is being saved by NOT funding commie-care?
This year, two years, ten years worth of savings?
It really doesn’t matter what the senate does. The Republican controlled House MUST reject any changes the democrat senate makes to fund ObamaCare. Hold the line!
Despite Obama/Reid’s threats, no one really wants to totally shutdown the government. The essentials will be funded and the House is in the driver’s seat.
Hold the line!!
We must kill the economy-wrecking, jobs-killing, liberty-robbing, big government socialist monstrosity aka ObamaCare before it kills us!!
There’s no way in hell ObamaCare can possibly succeed anyway, even if it is funded. But that’s just part of their commie plan. When it fails, they’ll roll out single payer.
Screw the left!! Defund this communist POS now and you’ll see a landslide for the Republicans in 2014!!
Go, Pubbie House, GO!!
Not only defund the tyranny that is DeathCare, but broadcast the names of Congressman and every Senator who votes to keep DeathCare and organize and work to defeat all of them come 2014 and 2016. Post their names every day on FR and on blogs.
Organize and volunteer on campaigns to replace every one of them.
I’ll put it this way, if there’s no ObamaCare, there’s no need to raise the credit limit. ObamaCare is totally unnecessary (and unwanted) new spending.
Anyone have Rove’s email address and contact numbers? I’m sure he would love to hear from We The People.
I don’t know that they’d dare block either, Jim. But I do see your point. Dems will never vote to defund their entitlements.
But putting defense first would give Republicans a chance to counter criticism they have received regarding the balance of the sequester cuts and I have a feeling our troops would appreciate it. I know mine would.
Abolish the 16th Amendment!!!
Ok. Whichever they put first is fine by me as long as they follow through.
Heck, maybe they should put funding the congress first. Then the white house.
ALEXANDRIA, VA Today, the Senate Conservatives Fund (SCF) called on Senate Republicans to oppose cloture on Harry Reid's attempt to fund Obamacare with a simple majority.
SCF Executive Director, Matt Hoskins, made the following statement:
"Americans won a major victory today when the House passed legislation to fund the government without funding Obamacare, but now the debate shifts to the Senate where Harry Reid and the Democrats will try to fund Obamacare. The Democrats have a plan to fund Obamacare, but Republicans can stop it if they stick together.
"Harry Reid needs 60 votes to approve his plan to fund Obamacare. If 41 Republicans stand strong and oppose cloture, they can defeat Reid's plan to fund Obamacare. However, if Republicans waffle and vote for cloture, it will grease the skids for Reid's plan to fund Obamacare. It's pretty simple any Republican who votes for cloture is voting to fund Obamacare.
"This is a critical test for Senate Republicans and especially for Mitch McConnell, the Republican Leader. It's time for Mitch McConnell to show some leadership and deliver the 41 votes needed to defeat cloture on Harry Reid's plan to fund Obamacare. Republicans like to say they are against Obamacare, but now is the time to prove it. Now is when it matters."
Senate Conservatives Fund (SCF) is an independent, grassroots organization that advocates for conservative policies in Washington and helps elect true conservative leaders to the United States Senate.
Excellent post, boss.
I just stole it and sent it to both of my senators and am about to send it to all of the Louisiana reps. I’ll be making phone calls later, too. If I can get through, this will be my message.
Time to hold the line!
I got that too. I am thinking of writing a scathing response to it.
I guess this will be my opus. Sorry Jim, the govt is broken, this nation is broken hell this website is broken. I saw in the last two elections and participated in mass efforts to change things. Nothing happened, nothing changed and we are doomed. Those who receive simply outnumber us. It’s sad but it’s going to come down to the unthinkable. Be sure to to stay up to date on I think Kartographer’s threads.
Agree!! Senate Conservatives Fund AND Tea Party Express kept tabs/rosters that named and shamed. That's what got their attention, IMO.
Point being, I liked your OP, Jim :)
Stay in the fight, with whatever fight you have left. Don't just completely give up. Once we're over the other side of this mountain we'll all share in the sweet taste of victory. But, our journey begins with small steps.
Sure, we prepare ourselves. We plan for the worst, but we hope for the best. And, we know we gave the fight our all.
Stick with us and hang in there, FRiend! Don't give up hope.
ok, no opus but good lord, what has changed? have you and everyone else not called and voted and canvased and spoke your minds and voted and voted and voted only to our way of thinking get not just defeated but trounced. I get that the recall in Colorado was good but once again it will get swallowed up come election cycle by a dem majority. Even my own daughter thinks there is a “war on women” and if your thinking I haven’t tried with her your mistaken. Yes she did attend 5 years of college and yes it did brainwash her.
A great strategy!
Glad to hear you're not opus-ing ;)
While I don’t mean to be critical, if the goal is to defund the unconstitutional federal behemoth, why list as your first appropriations bill, two completely unconstitutional programs hugely to blame for the size of the current behemoth and on course to bankrupt the country?
Our hope is the media will be forced to interview conservative republicans over and over. And they need to say “Obama and Reid shut down the government. Not us!” over and over.
They also need to say “We are in the majority because the people wanted us to defund obamacare. And that’s what we’re going to do. If the people change their minds and want to vote us out, that’s their right.”
If obamacare is not killed, this country will be.
Luck is when preparation meets opportunity.
Yeah, I know. Privatizing social security and medicare should be the goals. But that’s not going to happen today. What we can do today is defund ObamaCare and hold the line on federal spending. If we can defund some other departments while we’re at it, great! But we must ensure that we defund ObamaCare first. It’s the death knell for our constitutional republic if we allow it to stand.
And prayer. With God, all things are possible.
I agree that the military should be well funded.
A so-called “govt shutdown” (no such thing happens ever) doesn’t affect current military spending or military pay since those things are classified as essential.
Yes. Defunding, eliminating Obamacare is of utmost importance, and then we must look at other issues as well, BUT always with an eye on precedence.
Precedence is law.
Precedence is what the Left is up to IMO. I believe the issues that require our attention in most part are distractions while the Left sets precedence unchallenged.
If we look about us we see a lack of border enforcement for the past several Presidencial Administrations. A Nation without borders is not a Nation.
If we look about us we see other precedences in progress as well such as the U.N. ICLEI at work within our borders assisting Blue States, and Democrat/Leftist community leaders to create regulations in accord with U.N. Agenda 21.
We have no treaty that allows such foreign operations within our borders. Can anyone identify the President that signed such a treaty after which Senate ratified such a treaty?
If we look at our own heavily Leftist influenced Federal Government we see precedence being set with laws, and regulations that do not comply with our Constitution.
Precedence is law.
Setting precedence requires time, and time is bought with issues of distraction real, or artificial.
I think I see in this Obamacare, and the setting of multiple precedences of which I’ve not mentioned but a couple a complete overhaul, thus illegal discard of our Constitution in progress to be replaced by Leftist precedence.
I hope I’m wrong, but that’s what I see here.
The issues are as artificial as the amounts of money on the bottom line of the very real bills we are paying that finance our demise.
I wish I had the journalistic talent to put this in more easily understood format, but this is about the best I can do for now.
Precedence is law.
The Leftist’s are creating precedence while distracting us with artificial issues, and debate, thus rewriting, countering the Constitution with Leftist precedence as we are distracted.
If we remain docile with heads spinning due their artificial issues they will have succeeded in nullifying, and rewriting via precedence the vast amount of our Constitution that allows us as a Nation the freedom we are accustomed.
Just a thought.
Yup. And ObamaCare completely shreds the remnants of the constitution. The precedent set by ObamaCare effectively removes all constitutional limits on government if allowed to go forward. And unfortunately, this was aided and abetted by the Chief Justice who should have tossed the entire thing out on constitutional grounds. He left it to we the people to repeal it, so here we are. Defund it. Defang it. Repeal it!!
What happens during a government shutdown
1) Workers in all three government branches are at risk of being furloughed.
2) Furloughed workers could receive pay retroactively. in every past instance where the government did shutdown, furloughed workers were given retroactive pay
3) Federal contractors will stop being paid
4) The court system would continue to operate, with judges, key staff memberincluding probation officersnot facing a furlough.
5) Social Security and Medicare payments will still go out, but experts say a shutdown could bring delays. During the last shutdown, CSR reports, the Social Security Administration kept fewer than 50,000 workers to help provide existing benefits.
6) Non-government workers might not even feel the effect of a closed government. [LOL]
7) National parks will close and the places people like to visit in Washington, D.C., will be unavailable.
8) Veterans could face holdups with receiving services regarding health and welfare and finance.
9) New passport applications could be delayed
10) travelers could face longer lines at customs when re-entering the country.
11) there are lots of non-profits and for-profits that are dependent on federal grants.
12) The countrys 368 national parks will shutter
13) The National Institution of Health will likely stop enrolling new patients
That's the whole thing, in a nutshell. It's so simple, even RINOs can do it.