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Chicago police: Assault-style rifle used in attack
Milwaykee J-S ^ | 20 sept 2013 | Herbert Mccann

Posted on 09/20/2013 12:23:37 PM PDT by rellimpank

Those behind a late-night attack at a southwest Chicago park in which 13 people were wounded, including a 3-year-old, used an assault-style weapon to spray the crowd with bullets, making it "a miracle" no one was killed, the city's police superintendent said Friday.

Ballistics evidence shows that those behind Thursday night's attack used a 7.62 mm rifle fed by a high-capacity magazine, police Superintendent Garry McCarthy told reporters. That type of weapon, he said, belongs on a "battlefield, not on the street or a corner or a park in the Back of the Yards," the neighborhood where the shooting took place.

"It's a miracle in this instance that there have been no fatalities based upon the lethality of the weapon used at the scene," McCarthy said, calling on lawmakers to restrict the sale of such weapons and choke off the flow of illegal guns into the city.

The attack happened shortly after 10 p.m. while the Cornell Square Park was still crowded with people watching a basketball game and enjoying a warm late summer night.

Investigators believe several people took part in the attack but weren't sure yet how many fired shots. McCarthy said that based on witness interviews, it appears the attack was gang-related and that several victims are gang members.

"Even if it's gang-related, even if we have the most hardened criminals who becomes the victim of gun violence, that individual is the father, brother, sister sometimes parent of somebody else," McCarthy said. "So murder is not a one-victim crime."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; rkba; secondamendment
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1 posted on 09/20/2013 12:23:37 PM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

MAYBE an SKS, but even then I doubt it.


2 posted on 09/20/2013 12:25:34 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: rellimpank

Since Chicago has such strict gun control laws, why are there so many shootings there?

Or, because so many shootings are related to gang violence, do these shooting not count???

From recent rhetoric, you would swear that the biggest threat to young black men is a white Hispanic neighborhood watchman with a gun. When in fact, the biggest threat to young black men are other black men with guns.


3 posted on 09/20/2013 12:25:42 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: rellimpank

I’ve never heard of gangbangers using a 7.62x51/.308 AR-10 in a shooting before; wonder if it’s some if the F&F hardware coming up north?


4 posted on 09/20/2013 12:27:09 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: rellimpank

‘Ballistics evidence” proved the model of firearm used? really?

I thought ballistics evidence was pretty much limited to the caliber and type of bullet used. Perhaps angle of entry as well.


5 posted on 09/20/2013 12:27:23 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: rellimpank

Oh noesss not an ‘assault rifle’

If only we had gun control....


6 posted on 09/20/2013 12:28:47 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: rellimpank

Who wants to bet assault style rifle= shotgun


7 posted on 09/20/2013 12:29:01 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: rellimpank
That type of weapon, he said, belongs on a "battlefield, not on the street or a corner or a park in the Back of the Yards," the neighborhood where the shooting took place

but if you be in da Back of da Yards, you betta have you dat type of weapon, if you want to survive.

8 posted on 09/20/2013 12:29:10 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: rellimpank

Ooops, scrap the AR-10/.308 description; I wrongly assumed AR-10, but it could be another, altogether different model. Article doesn’t say.


9 posted on 09/20/2013 12:29:22 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: rellimpank

Impossible. Those have been outlawed.


10 posted on 09/20/2013 12:30:00 PM PDT by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: rellimpank

Gee, don’t you just hate it when one of those 7.62 assault style guns gets out of control and starts shooting people.

Those guns are already outlawed in Chicago, by the way


11 posted on 09/20/2013 12:30:01 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: rellimpank

When it comes to the anti second amendment people, is there any other kind of weapon other than an “assault rifle”?


12 posted on 09/20/2013 12:30:05 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: carriage_hill
I’ve never heard of gangbangers using a 7.62x51/.308 AR-10 in a shooting before

I've seen plenty of thugs posing with AKs on their facebook pages. They've got them.

13 posted on 09/20/2013 12:30:09 PM PDT by Drew68 (Cruz '16)
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To: rellimpank

From what I’ve heard Chicago IS a battlefield.

Pathetic! Law enforcement doesn’t - then blames their FAILURE on the gun!


14 posted on 09/20/2013 12:31:39 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: carriage_hill

More than likely a 7.62x39 rooskie in a chicom ak knockoff... if it even was a rifle.


15 posted on 09/20/2013 12:31:47 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: gaijin
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16 posted on 09/20/2013 12:32:51 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Drew68

Yikes. I’m not a FB-er, so I’ve never seen that.


17 posted on 09/20/2013 12:32:52 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill

Yeah, probably an FNH SCAR with a high end Aimpoint red dot...

/sarc


18 posted on 09/20/2013 12:33:33 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: gaijin

Impossible. It’s illegal to have guns in Chicago.


19 posted on 09/20/2013 12:33:43 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Drew68

that’s 7.62x39

they could have Sigs,HKs, whatever.

Depends on how well they know Holder.


20 posted on 09/20/2013 12:34:14 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: rellimpank

There should be a law where criminals can’t steal guns or rob, murder, rape and all other such mayhem.

Idiots.


21 posted on 09/20/2013 12:34:15 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

its illegal to shoot people, and especially illegal to harm them or actually kill them, and then its also illegal to have a gun in Chicago so WHAT’S THE PROBLEM?


22 posted on 09/20/2013 12:35:16 PM PDT by cherry
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To: rellimpank
If true, they finally have a shooting that fits the big black scary assault weapon narrative.
Can anyone say "orchestrated"?

23 posted on 09/20/2013 12:36:10 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Drew68
"they've got them"

What!!! It's impossible for criminals to get anything illegal....they must be selling them at Walmart. (smirk)

24 posted on 09/20/2013 12:38:41 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: rellimpank

Another AR15 shotgun, no doubt.


25 posted on 09/20/2013 12:39:44 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When your policy is to rob Peter to pay Paul, you can count on enthusiastic support from Paul.)
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To: rellimpank
We absolutely know that this report can not be true. Shitcago has very strict gun control laws that the socialist left comocrats has insisted will prevent anything like this from ever happening.

We also know that after generations of comocrat rule in shitcago that everyone there is happy with great medical care, fantastic jobs, and more than enough income to allow all of their children to attend top rated public school.

We know all these things because the socialist democrats have told us repeatedly that there way will take care of all of these problems for our whole nation if given power, just like they did in shitcago.

26 posted on 09/20/2013 12:40:40 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: gaijin
Well, the media needed an AR-15 Tragedy and BINGO, we now have one.

I'm just pointing out a fact.

27 posted on 09/20/2013 12:41:52 PM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: showme_the_Glory

13 bullets is not a “High Capacity” magazine. They were so disappointed that an AR-15 was used used at the Navy Yard. The Sinaloa Drug Cartel runs Chicagoland. Their leader said they got weapons from Fast and Furious in exchange for intel on rival gangs. If the Chicago Police Chief wants to know where this shooter got a 7.62 “Assault Rifle”. He should talk to Eric Holder.


28 posted on 09/20/2013 12:42:00 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: rellimpank

Ar 15Ar 16 whatever it took


29 posted on 09/20/2013 12:43:39 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: rellimpank

Hey Garry!

Perhaps you should worry more about the perp, who likely STOLE THE WEAPON!!!

Why does this shooting bother you more than the 500 murders there last year?


30 posted on 09/20/2013 12:45:15 PM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: driftdiver

Oh, it’s even better. This “ballistics evidence” even told them the size of the magazine. Real CSI wizards, these guys.


31 posted on 09/20/2013 12:47:21 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: gaijin

“MAYBE an SKS, but even then I doubt it.”

Some other possibilities but I doubt these as well as they are long guns and thereby unwieldy in cars; M1A (civilian version of M-14) and the Browning BAR (Hunting version not military). If these dudes were actually using some sort of 30 cal rifle then you can bet it was stolen.


32 posted on 09/20/2013 12:48:39 PM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: Falcon4.0
Well, the media needed an AR-15 Tragedy and BINGO, we now have one. I'm just pointing out a fact.

You're pointing out the elephant in the living room, especially since the MSM just got finished screwing up over AR-15 claims.

Murderous bastards.

33 posted on 09/20/2013 12:50:14 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: rellimpank

All they can tell from “ballistic evidence” would be that there are 30 caliber rifle bullets stuck n folks.
So, here is my theory:
It must have been an M1 Garand!
It would take up the whole back seat, you’d have to load a few E-blocks to shoot 13 people and those high quality peep sights wouldn’t do you much good in a moving car at night, but still, perfect for a drive by. You’ve got a bayonet and everything.
Good thing Obama stopped re-importing those things. They belong on foreign battle fields (like Omaha beach)


34 posted on 09/20/2013 12:50:41 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: rellimpank
The attack happened shortly after 10 p.m. while the Cornell Square Park was still crowded with people watching a basketball game and enjoying a warm late summer night

Since it was a SCHOOL night, my parents would have seen to it that I was either in bed or demanding an answer as to why my homework wasn't finished....

35 posted on 09/20/2013 12:51:49 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Ms. Muffett suffered from arachnophobia)
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To: rellimpank

So Chicago, how did that ban on them work for you?


36 posted on 09/20/2013 12:53:10 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: carriage_hill

Pretty damned expensive ammo too.

But, my preference. Wouldn’t waste it on random spraying.


37 posted on 09/20/2013 12:53:12 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: rellimpank

These weapons in CHICAGO?

GayMuzzie brokered a “no busts for rival cartel intel” arrangement with the Sinaloa Cartel. It’s spooky and secret, JUST LIKE most of the rest of the stuff Mr. ChoomGang does.

So the Sinaloa Cartel is an extension of the current Regime —that, or the other way around. It’s hard to tell, now, it’s 50/50 now, by my guess.

F&F guns flowed to the Cartels, and from there to Chi-town, which is mobbed up with GayMuzzie.

They needed a mass-shooting with some type of AR, and WOW...! NOW THEY HAVE ONE...!

I’m soooo surprised.


38 posted on 09/20/2013 12:53:21 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: rellimpank
Those behind a late-night attack at a southwest Chicago park in which 13 people were wounded, including a 3-year-old, used an assault-style weapon to spray the crowd with bullets, making it "a miracle" no one was killed, the city's police superintendent said Friday.

Well then! I would hope the Chicago hack superintendent would WELCOME 'salty weapons' because they clearly are nonlethal!

39 posted on 09/20/2013 12:53:25 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: rellimpank

People use the word “miracle” way too often when it doesn’t apply. I’d say a true miracle is that 50 people a day aren’t killed in cities with strong gun control.


40 posted on 09/20/2013 12:53:56 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: carriage_hill

Maybe they got hold of an Obamagun from Fast and Furious.


41 posted on 09/20/2013 12:54:06 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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"...Assault-style rifle..."

What's next, "terrorist-style Tea-Party member threatened..."

-PJ

42 posted on 09/20/2013 12:56:03 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: rellimpank

The shooter(s)should have used Joe “Bite-Me”autograph model SHOTGUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


43 posted on 09/20/2013 12:56:14 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: rellimpank

Gee, maybe they out to pass a law against them, that’ll work.


44 posted on 09/20/2013 12:57:29 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: AppyPappy

That was my first thought, too. 7.62x39-51 is a bit larger/heavier hardware than a ROTM AR-15.


45 posted on 09/20/2013 12:58:08 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: colorado tanker

Bingo! My initial response upon reading the headline, just had to read through all responses to see if anyone else caught that. Unbelievable the crap the Chicago PD tries to peddle to their media lackeys. Sadly, the sheeple in Chicago eat it up, while us downstaters who know considerably more about all those ‘scary’ guns just sit and shake our heads at the stupidity.


46 posted on 09/20/2013 1:01:22 PM PDT by RonInNaples
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To: thorvaldr
Anyone seen ole Atticus lately?

He used a .30 on the street.


47 posted on 09/20/2013 1:04:03 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: Vendome
It's still pretty much $1-2/rnd, but for a drug dealer/gangbanger, money's probably no object when you're killing rivals or innocents. I remember buying caseloads (1m) of 7.62x51/.308 ammo for 13-15¢/rnd, back in the early-90s.
48 posted on 09/20/2013 1:07:34 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: rellimpank
That type of weapon, he said, belongs on a "battlefield, not on the street or a corner or a park in the Back of the Yards,"

BS, every home in the USA should have at least one. People who misuse them in parks ought to be shot by people defending themselves.

49 posted on 09/20/2013 1:15:14 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: carriage_hill

7.62X39 COMBLOC, as in Avtomat Kalashnikova.


50 posted on 09/20/2013 1:18:55 PM PDT by ReconViper 1
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