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Former Special Forces Commander: Now It's Donít Ask, Donít Tell for Christians
CNSNews ^ | September 20, 2013 | Michael W. Chapman

Posted on 09/20/2013 1:37:35 PM PDT by jazusamo

AUDIO Interview at link.

(CNSNews.com) – Many commanders in the Department of Defense are violating the religious rights of service members, forcing them to be quiet about their moral opposition to homosexuality and gay marriage, for instance, and, in effect, imposing a Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy on Christians, said Lt. Gen. (Ret.) William “Jerry” Boykin, the former commander of the U.S. Special Forces Command.

In an interview, CNSNews.com asked Gen. Boykin, now the executive vice president of the Family Research Council (FRC), “Given the violation of religious liberties that have been going on, do you think that, ironically, Christians are being forced into the closet? Being forced to basically Don’t Talk, Don’t Tell, if they’re a Christian?” (at 7:43 into audio clip)

Boykin said, “Yes, it’s a real turnabout where you, at one time, had to come out of the closet to admit you’re homosexual, and now you have to come out of the closet to admit that you’re a Christian.”

“There was a meeting in San Antonio yesterday [Sept. 17] where 80 members from Lackland Air Force base came and talked about the persecution they are under at Lackland Air Force Base,” said the general. “That’s significant. And now, you’re an open Christian at your own peril in many places, under many of the commanders in the military today and that’s a major change, a major paradigm shift in our society.”

When asked whether Christians now have to be quiet in the military, Boykin said, “Well, remember when the Soviet Union disintegrated and all of a sudden the Russian Orthodox Church popped up and everbody said, ‘whoa, where’d you come from, we thought everybody was an atheist?’ And their response was, ‘no, we never went away, we were just forced underground. We couldn’t worship openly. We had to go underground.’ That’s what they’re trying to do in America today.”

“They’re trying to force Christians underground so that our faith and our values do not impact the public sector. So that’s what you’re seeing unfold today,” said Boykin, who was one of the original members of Delta Force.

A September 2013 report from the Family Research Council, A Clear and Present Danger: The Threat to Religious Liberty in the Military, details numerous cases of religious persecution in the U.S. military that have occurred over the last few years. Some of the cases involve banning Bibles; ordering soldiers to keep their Bibles out of sight; punishment for expressing opposition to a gay “marriage” at the Cadet Chapel at West Point; and prosecuting a sergeant who refused to punish an instructor who expressed moral opposition to same-sex “marriage.”

The Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy was established under President Bill Clinton in 1994. It basically said that gays could serve in the U.S. military but not openly – “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.” The policy was ended under President Barack Obama on Sept. 20, 2011. Homosexuals may now serve openly in the Armed Forces.

Lt. Gen. Boykin served 36 years in the Army where, in addition to his commands in Delta Force, he commanded all the Army’s Green Berets as well as the Special Warfare Center and School. Prior to joining the FRC, Boykin served four years as the Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 666; christianpersecution; christians; dod; dontaskdonttell; firstamendment; homosexualagenda; ltgenboykin; militarychristians; religion; religiousfreedom; specialforces; usmilitary

1 posted on 09/20/2013 1:37:35 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Funny how things can get turned around 180 degrees in just a few short years.

Folks, we can’t sit back anymore. The leftists are like wild animals - they WON’T stop until we are dead and gone.


2 posted on 09/20/2013 1:39:20 PM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: jazusamo

Satan’s plan for us.

Ans, under Obama, it’s working just fine, thanks.


3 posted on 09/20/2013 1:39:27 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: jazusamo

Luke 22:36


4 posted on 09/20/2013 1:42:27 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statemet of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: joethedrummer; All

So true.

Lt. Gen. Boykin makes some great points in the interview.


5 posted on 09/20/2013 1:43:21 PM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: jazusamo

This probably includes any Christmas or Easter Decorations, cards or well wishes.


6 posted on 09/20/2013 1:43:38 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: jazusamo

I’d much rather be in a foxhole with a Christian than with an atheist. If I was a Christian in the military they’d have to courtmartial me and kick me out. If I deny God for a career today, I’m in trouble later. But I wouldn’t serve in the military today for any reason.


7 posted on 09/20/2013 1:47:28 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: jazusamo

We have to fight this, because our active duty military can not.


8 posted on 09/20/2013 1:47:32 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: SandRat

I’m sure it will with many commanders and all if it comes from the top.


9 posted on 09/20/2013 1:49:15 PM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: jazusamo

bkmk


10 posted on 09/20/2013 1:51:06 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: joethedrummer

Thankfully, we still have the right to load up on lethal firepower.


11 posted on 09/20/2013 1:52:11 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: jazusamo

It’s almost as though this President wants an atheistic and pro-muslim military!!!!

At least he wouldn’t ever turn it on his own people...

;p

Folks, we are facing the “fundamental transformation” of this country. It is here. We *must* replace this Congress, if we lose this President will punish us, hard. It’ll be Executive Orders out of control. Our economy will be destroyed and our liberties taken (more than they’re now). Then we’ll get a good dose of just how opportunistic and evil this world can be.


12 posted on 09/20/2013 2:19:26 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: joethedrummer

It is why for years I have been warning against making “sodomy” into a “Right”. There can be no such thing in a “Justice” system which is based on Christian Ethics-—which is the only ethics system which gives individual Rights all ALL. Christianity is the only belief system which is compatible with our Constitution.

There is no “Right” to sodomize others-—none-—it is a Vice/irrational and vile behavior, which is learned from the environment/adults/peers. All homosexual cultures-—like the Samurai/Spartans/ today’s Afghanistan-—have pederasty as the main sexual recreation and women are always breeders and segregated. Childhood trauma results in this warped way to “see” yourself and others. Look at Chastity Bono who was raped as child (as was John Gacy and many serial killers) and how warped, sick their ideology is-—where they mutilate their bodies and/or the bodies of others. They use others in dehumanizing ways.

It is an evil worldview which ejects Natural Law (Reason/Logic/Science/Truth) and reduces “Rights” to base urges which will collapse any culture based on this Marxists/pagan “worldview”.

Our children are being programmed/indoctrinated into “thinking” sodomy is “Good” and a “Right” and two “daddies” are normal. It will erase the Christian Worldview totally. It is why we see the rise of Atheism/paganism/Eastern mysticism. The removal of Reason/Logic always does this and creates irrational worldview.


13 posted on 09/20/2013 2:30:31 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: fuzzylogic

The forcing sodomy on our military-—is eliminating the Christian Worldview. This is what the Russians/Hitler did so, so that their soldiers would be able to kill and mutilate their own citizens/families. Christians never would.

Only mature, moral men who love women and children will protect families. Homosexuals are selfish and narcissistic/idolators. They are immature. Goodness—selflessness—takes Christian Ethics—it is why zero is forcing sodomy to be a “Right” and brainwashing little children to take Pride in anal sex-—to eradicate Christian Worldview for Atheism/Paganism.

http://www.thepinkswastika.com/5294/index.html


14 posted on 09/20/2013 2:36:56 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: jazusamo

But..don’t tell me...Muslims get to pray 5 times a day on military issued prayer rugs.

Enough!!


15 posted on 09/20/2013 2:57:06 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: jazusamo

bump


16 posted on 09/20/2013 3:02:20 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: fuzzylogic

I would even say, he already HAS “fundamentally transformed” the nation.

The mechanism of tyranny has been built. It’s only awaiting the throw of the switch.


17 posted on 09/20/2013 3:03:45 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: jazusamo

Surrender social issues and the Left will openly start persecuting Christians/Conservatives.


18 posted on 09/20/2013 3:04:04 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: RginTN

The libertarians are demanding that we surrender social issues. No way.


19 posted on 09/20/2013 3:06:13 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: jazusamo

Thank you ADM Mullen...through your testimony as State’s ARB and your repeal of DADT, you have screwed your country well.....BZ!


20 posted on 09/20/2013 3:32:08 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: jazusamo

It isn't just happening in the Middle East.

21 posted on 09/20/2013 3:45:38 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: jazusamo

And most here though the Army would be on our side


22 posted on 09/20/2013 3:47:12 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: keats5
We have to fight this, because our active duty military can not.

Why not? That's what I don't understand. Is making the payment on the Camaro more important to them?

23 posted on 09/20/2013 3:49:53 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: joethedrummer

We’ll just Zimbabwe the racist idiots: That nation kicked out all the white farmers then starved.


24 posted on 09/20/2013 3:50:33 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: jazusamo

This is just a logical follow on. Hope nobody is surprised.


25 posted on 09/20/2013 3:51:39 PM PDT by upchuck (nobamacare must be stopped before it can live down to our expectations.)
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To: jazusamo

“Lt. Gen. (Ret.) William “Jerry” Boykin, the former commander of the U.S. Special Forces Command”

How about the states hire the general to muster a patriot army of about 100 divisions.


26 posted on 09/20/2013 4:09:01 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: GeronL

The libertarians are demanding that we surrender social issues. No way.


As long as there are leftwing activists in the govt one can’t surrender social issues.


27 posted on 09/20/2013 4:52:58 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: steve86

No, it’s not about Camaro payments.

Members of the military have strict regulations about engaging in certain political activities.


28 posted on 09/20/2013 5:16:49 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: jazusamo; Alamo-Girl; 2ndDivisionVet; zot; Biggirl; xzins; SeekAndFind; Mrs. Don-o; SkyPilot; ...

Jaz, thank you for posting this article.


29 posted on 09/20/2013 5:33:18 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: keats5

I’m talking about something a little more direct then “political activities”.


30 posted on 09/20/2013 6:02:01 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the ping!


31 posted on 09/20/2013 7:19:22 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: jazusamo

I think it should have been perfectly clear for everyone, when the Democrats’ rejection of God at their national convention was broadcast live across the United States.


32 posted on 09/21/2013 3:54:22 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: jazusamo

So now it’s between a rock and a hard place, jihadists want you dead, check. Your own government and military command hate your guts for believing differently from them. Check.

Pathetic.


33 posted on 09/21/2013 6:37:18 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: jazusamo

PING!


34 posted on 09/21/2013 6:40:31 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: GreyFriar

More and more persecution of Christians, as there was in the Soviet Union and is now in Muslim countries.


35 posted on 09/22/2013 6:38:38 PM PDT by zot
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