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College-educated workers are taking jobs that don't require degrees
Los Angeles Times ^ | September 20, 2013 | By Alana Semuels

Posted on 09/20/2013 4:37:39 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

College graduates are tending bar and driving taxis, pushing people without degrees out of those jobs.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: bhoeconomy; failure; generationy; obamanomics; workforce
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To: lentulusgracchus

I am joking - being an English major turned out okay for me. But I would like to gibe the counselor a piece of my mind. She was sandbagging us behind the scenes at universities she didn’t want us attending. She desperately wanted me to to two schools that were a terrible fit for me.


21 posted on 09/20/2013 4:51:22 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
She desperately wanted me to to two schools that were a terrible fit for me.

Really? What exactly did she have in mind?

Say, are you the guy I talked to one time who said he went to Fordham?

22 posted on 09/20/2013 5:01:14 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: cripplecreek

A good many jobs requiring degrees really don’t.


Yep...my job but you don’t need it....but the job requires it...make sense?


23 posted on 09/20/2013 5:03:21 PM PDT by chasio649
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To: chasio649

I’m a high school drop out who stumbled into robotics and ended up running the department. The only real difference was that other department heads made more money than I did.

There is no better school than on the job training.


24 posted on 09/20/2013 5:10:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Hot Tabasco
A college degree may work in the corporate office, but on the plant floor, there is no substitute for actual experience......

Bump. Essayist James Fallows once wrote a long article on "credentialism", the new official religion (with statist "scientific" materialism), and pretty much took it apart like a broiled chicken. Think it appeared in The Atlantic Monthly back in, umm, about 1984. How dare he.

25 posted on 09/20/2013 5:10:30 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
A college degree these days is the functional equivalent of a what a high school diploma was 40 years ago. These days the first job a lot of these college graduates get is after they graduate from college. I started working when I was 15 and worked through college and law school.

I have been unemployed exactly 6 months in my entire life, and that was only because I was on unemployment and was not really trying all that hard to find a job. Right after my unemployment ran out, I amazingly found work the next day.

26 posted on 09/20/2013 5:12:16 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: cripplecreek

Time for a raise, or to leave for another job. They’re stiffing you, using education as an excuse. Your productivity is your credential, and if your productivity is equal to the other managers’, then upper management is screwing you “on principle” — which is no principle at all.


27 posted on 09/20/2013 5:12:27 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: P-Marlowe

Depends on specific subject area. I doubt if a high school could turn out a 4-year engineering student let alone a physician. But where liberal arts are concerned... that’s typically a big self flattering hog wallow and standards sink as low as their ability to be ashamed.


28 posted on 09/20/2013 5:14:26 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: nickcarraway

how about just getting a minor

LOL


29 posted on 09/20/2013 5:14:54 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Days gone by. If I had really wanted the money I probably could have taken the minimal courses and gotten the money.


30 posted on 09/20/2013 5:15:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

GMAFB

No dishonor to cleaning toilets, roofing or driving a taxi, degree or no degree. Basic supply and demand - more and more people with college degrees, the less value one has. Sure, a few generations ago any BA at all was a pretty good foot in the door to the fast track, but no longer. BFD, we’re all in the same boat; a degree is a *start* not a finish.

All a degree means is that you can learn,and perhaps even understand information of a level requiring literacy, a modicum of research and seat time and regurgitate same in a manner agreeable with the paradigm of your professors.

Of course it could mean much more, in some disciplines, but I worked in a warehouse, and then a guitar factory with my BA, didn’t whine, learned as much as a temp worker on a production line as I ever could have sitting in a classroom.


31 posted on 09/20/2013 5:15:33 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: cripplecreek

Do you need a college degree for sales? I think college is overrated these days. Look at the physical therapy Field you need a degree to move some arms and legs how about a guidance counselor they make 120k in NY do you deed a degree for that? Just saying.


32 posted on 09/20/2013 5:17:20 PM PDT by angcat
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To: P-Marlowe
I have been unemployed exactly 6 months in my entire life, and that was only because I was on unemployment

ahhhhh....but you were working the system....

LOL

33 posted on 09/20/2013 5:17:52 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: nickcarraway

What else are English majors supposed to do?”

I found my degree in English to be very useful when I worked in the operations department of a grain company and wrote budget justifications. Of course also having degrees in accounting and electrical engineering certainly helped.

I do write a lot to my Senator and Congressmen but you don’t need a degree to do that as it’s easier for them to understand if I keep the comprehension level at about the third grade.


34 posted on 09/20/2013 5:18:01 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

You know, I dont recall ever seeing an Engineer, Mathematician, Scientist, or IT guy taking jobs that didn’t require degrees.

Must be something to do with degrees ending in “studies”.


35 posted on 09/20/2013 5:19:48 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Grams A

What color of crayon do you use?


36 posted on 09/20/2013 5:21:02 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: bigheadfred

This is what happens when we send akall the kids to college. They get degrees that are worth nothing. I know a few that dot degrees in pottery. Then they end up washing dishes and owing thousands of dollars to the schools. Some get a good job but most have no work ethics. I know some that went to college for 20 years and still no job.


37 posted on 09/20/2013 5:21:44 PM PDT by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: angcat

College today is high school of the 40’s and 50’s.


38 posted on 09/20/2013 5:22:16 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Busko

I have a cousin that was a professional student.


39 posted on 09/20/2013 5:27:15 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: nickcarraway

“(I can say that because I’m and English major)”

“and English major”?


40 posted on 09/20/2013 5:30:03 PM PDT by vladimir998
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