Skip to comments.Krauthammer: Obamacare defunding Kabuki, Kamikaze and GOP ‘will end up sushi’
Posted on 09/20/2013 4:47:26 PM PDT by servo1969
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HAHA, I mean Inside Washington
The Capital Gang was more fiery.
yummy! and yes, thank God!
Ex democrat ...
I am old enough to know most of the GOP establishment would have been traditional democrats during Reagan
which is exactly what Krauthammer was btw...
yes Virginia there was a time when there were reasonable democrats who were social conservatives and strong on national defense and not progressives
but that train left the station with Sam Nunn more or less
If they want to end it they will support what needs to be done to do so, including 'shutting down the govenment' (which is a phony term).
We will see what the American People are made of, they stopped the Syrian bombing, and now they may stop Obamacare.
He almost got it right with the "Kabuki" remark - the real kabuki is the "lipstick-on-a-pig" disaster of ObamaCares-not-a-whit-about-the-unwashed. The defunding would be like Mimi using a gallon of Noxzema.
I think everybody knows the only things the GOP fights for anymore are things they know they can't win. They're their own worst enemy, looking at it from the outside.
Looking at it from the inside - this is what they believe will save some of the traitors from being voted out.
All their action on this is simple grandstanding to put up the facade that they represent their constituents. They know they will lose this fake battle they just hope to keep their jobs, that is all they intend with this.
If they had really wanted to defund Obamacare, they would have reached across the aisle and agreed to support other non-obamacare additions to the budget so they could have gained more support in the senate. America is for sale to the special interests groups. This could have been an easy win, but the GOP is a bunch lazy video game playing do nothings - for the most part. They'll never shut down the government, so with that in mind, this is the battle that never was.
Exactly. Krauthammer’s been hanging around the DC salons for a little too long.
after I loged off last nite I was thinking it is a shame we can’t clone cruz ;-)
Dr K was, IIRC, on the campaign staff of Walter “I want higher taxes” Mondull.
Appears he never evolved from his big govt liberalism/socialism
He is not a conservative overall. Maybe on some issues he seems that way, but he really isn’t a conservative. He is very intelligent though, just not a conservative.
More blather out of the beltway pseudo-conservative surrender caucus.
Sushi is good. I like volcano roll. Yum!
Someone please help me. My French is pretty weak. Does “krauthammer” translate as surrender?
“If CK is right and if the government shuts down then a worst case scenario would be the dems taking the house and holding the senate in 2014.”
And if the gop wing of the uniparty rolls over when it really IS important, then what’s the use of having them in the first place?
Might as well get on another enemies list.
Because it's a legitimate concern.
After the Senate rejects the CR, no one knows what will happen. Some of the possible outcomes are fairly good, some are really bad.
The view that a chaotic and probably collapsing Obamacare in September-October 2014 would be good politics for November 2014 is correct. You should acknowledge the possibility that the chaos that a shutdown will unleash in October 2013, 13 months before the election, will give the Propaganda Ministry too much time to frame the next election.
Obamacare cannot possibly "work". It's not designed to "work". It's designed to fail, to create chaos, and to arouse public clamor for full nationalization. Funding it, and blaming the resultant chaos on the Democrats, is a legitimate strategy.
That's why some conservatives are opposed to the Cruz strategy. They may not be right, but they do have a reasonable concern.
That's true, but only up to a point.
They want a lot of what's in it, and they sure don't want a free market in medical services.
The "law" (not sure it's really a legitimate law, more like an unconstitutional enabling act) is an abortion, a fantasy paste-up wish list of every commie wet dream of the last 50 years.
In that sense, they overreached, and may ultimately fail.
But the PREMISE of the law, which is that "they" are out to screw "you" and that your protector is FedGov is not unpopular and may in fact now command a majority.
They don't want the reality that is the recursive clusterf*ck it's turing out to be.
What does the great one,Mark Levin, have to say about this?
We can’t clone Cruz (Post 75) but Cruz has mobilized things!
Listened to first 25 min of long audio below and he starts out talking about the House vote at the beginning and then interview with Tom Delay. Delay is the ultimate “targeted” victim by the democrats battled for 10 years... Delay was on Hannity the other night too.
Delay also mentions what happened when the gov shut down before in the 90s. The interview with Delay ends around 32 min.
Listen to the short audio for his take on the House issue.
Mark Levin tries to credit Marco Rubio for leading the effort to defund Obamacare
One hour 51 minutes
Audio - Mark Levin: The Tea Party Battle Against ObamaCare, The Continuing Resolution, And 2014
FYI.......current number is; 1,574,092 signatures and rising rapidly. By late Monday evening we will pass the 2,000,000 signature mark!!!
If I have “pests” in the yard I hit them with whatever I’ve got, EVERY TIME I have a chance.
Not every attempt dispatches the pest, but I never know which hit will KILL THE PEST.
He will be always a Democrat. This is why I stop listening to him.
This so called smart pundit gets it wrong way too often for conservatives to take his opinions seriously. He may not be as bad as Rove, but he’s getting there.......
“More blather out of the beltway pseudo-conservative surrender caucus.”
Yep! I learned how useless these faux beltway pundits were during the Clintoon elections and the intern mess.
These beltway pundits are more concerned about not upsetting their beltway left wing counterparts. If they dare to speak the truth, they might be left out of the next fabulous cocktail party.
Our choices in life, re whom, we want to spend time with often can over rule any common sense and decency, if we allow it to happen.
At age 50, thanks to a wonderful mentor, who advised me to never waste my limited time and energy with perpetual losers. I made my life better and less frustrating by taking his advice. Our sons, nieces, nephews and younger friends have started following this advice in their fourties.
Looking back, that life change eliminated a lot of contact with liberals, often without realizing how liberal they were.
Then, as we progressed in life into our mid 60’s, we ran into a disturbing trend where friends, we thought were conservatives, apparently came out of the closet and became vicious/vile liberals. They would abuse the friendship and try to pass their left wing bs on to us as the real truth.
If they did this, once was enough for me, and I wanted nothing to do with them after their first and only rabid event with us/me. This at first was tough on my wife. However, she would agree after seeing the same behavior from them and would stop any future contacts. The first Obama election an his second has made many people we know totally intolerable. Now, my wife might beat me to saying, “No more of those A$$holes.”
We lived in the Beltway for 6+ years in the 1960’s. Being in health care and associated with MI intel and wanting to be in the right circles was very addicting. I realized this and was glad to go to the left coast and its problems to get away from that addiction. It took my wife about a decade after leaving the DC area, to realize the danger of the beltway right circles and its social addiction.
Krauthammer is too addicted to be in the right beltway circles too even realize how wrong he is on so many things like Obozocare.
"Obamacare is so unpopular...This is going to be a complete disaster."
Funny how this was the exact same argument that the erudite Mr. Krauthammer, Rove, and the GOP-e, etc. we're using in the 2012 elections. The Obama "economy was such a disaster, with millions of people out of work, etc.", that all we had to do was sit back and play prevent defense, and voters would come flocking to elect President Romney...
These days, the Democrats playbook is almost entirely based upon distraction (and it has been extremely successful...), and that is what they will be counting on going forward. Only assertive, constant challenges by the Tea Party can counter this.
I think it is kabuki in the sense Boner knows it won’t hold through a Senate vote.
The best hope we have for getting rid of Obamacare at this point is the actual implementation of Obamacare itself and the wake-up call low info types are gonna experience when they discover the IRS is the live action keeper of their medical health.
Who knows? Maybe these nitwits who voted for free birth control pills and other insanity will figure it out.
Suprficially, it's a strong argument.
But the primary impact of the first full year of Obamacare will be millions of people getting checks -- for the mere act of having participated in the program.
Note that one of the "problems" is that they can't collect the individual mandate. Another is that they can't confirm the true income of those who claim they deserve a subsidy.
As a consequence, the mandate won't be enforced. And the subsidies will be flying out of the Treasury like hotcakes. The millions of people who "take advantage" of the program will love it. It's a source of "free money" for the millions skilled at scamming the system.
For the millions of us who work hard to support those subsidies and "the enforcement mechanism", it's something else -- we're the ones who get our lives wrecked.
Understand that once at entitlement has been paid out, it has never, ne3ver been withdrawn!
And that's why we can't count on the train wreck doing our job for us.
I honestly don’t know enough about the malworkings of the Federal Government to know one way or the other. Your prediction however sounds reasonable if I judge the nature of the people most in control of it.
It is indeed a most importantly noted feature of people who have fallen into the despotism that skill in exploiting the system rather than merit of your own ingenuity & productivity becomes the defining power of success. This is of course were society become increasingly stagnate, as they are driven away from innovation in most areas not popular in the minds of the powers that be.
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