Skip to comments.Krauthammer: Obamacare defunding Kabuki, Kamikaze and GOP ‘will end up sushi’
Posted on 09/20/2013 4:47:26 PM PDT by servo1969
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Once upon a time, you'd have been correct. The traditional Republican spokesmen -- Romney, McCain, Graham, Boehner, McConnell, Rove etc. -- couldn't explain their way out of a cobweb.
The emerging new Republican leadership -- Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Tom Graves, etc. -- can effectively explain their actions and how they will benefit the American people (even the LIV). And how it is the Democrats who are actually making the choice to shutdown government over Obamacare!
Cruz, Lee, Graves understand conservatism...because they are conservatives.
I am beginning to think that Krauthammer is French.
I believe most of the time Dr. K. has good observations and insights, and he is certainly very intelligent.
But on this one he is wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.
Obamacare is depressing the economy and costing millions of jobs from where we could be without it.
Obamacare is also a great threat to our health care in this country.
Obamacare was also passed by the most outrageous means (including Pelosi not letting anybody read or comment on the bill, and Pres. Obama lies about how it would never be permitted to fund abortions)
i am not sure japanese is always the wrong paradigm. they fought like crazy (i’d use another word but it would be unprintable) during wwii. it really saved the west’s rear that they were tuned in to their emperor well enough that when he yielded, so did they.
Krauthammer is wrong on occasion. This is one of those occasions.
Voters respect courage and courageous acts. The bipartisan vote in the House is supported by common sense and reflects the will of the people.
Obamacare is immensely unpopular among Democrats and Republicans. Forcing a destructive and counterproductive law that cannot be implemented as written, a complex and unfair law that was passed without even reading it, needs to be dispatched.
The corrupt and unpopular Senate will do all it can to blame the Republicans. I do not think that old, used tactic will work this time.
The Senate Democrats would be punishing via a government shutdown, and then punishing again its constituents by force feeding them against their will another failed, economically destructive program.
Kraut should stick to practice of medicine. Politics isn’t his “A” game..
You do realize that mid-term elections are next year? And that we need to regain control of the Senate? Those idiots believe ObamaCare is awesome because they haven't experienced the catastrophe we know it will be. And they won't understand how destructive ObamaCare is until they experience it personally (we've had five years to argue, debate and persuade them, to no avail).
What makes you think the idiots will make a more informed decision about ObamaCare in 2014 by delaying the pain of ObamaCare?
There is a reason why full implementation of ObamaCare was postponed until *after* the 2012 presidential election cycle. To allow Obama to be reelected *before* people realized what a disaster ObamaCare was. Now you want to play into the Democrats' hands by delaying the pain for yet another election cycle, one in which we could regain control of the Senate?
You are exactly right! We’ve struck a nerve and we definitely need to pray for our representatives and our country! We also need to continue to contact our representatives.
Right-eo. And make the little tyrant scream "Extortion!"
As Clinton said when he left office, "They have the microphone now."
Obama should be thinking ahead as well -- using '08 to cure his problem of inexperience. Run for the Democratic nomination and lose. He only has to do reasonably well in the primaries to become such a compelling national figure as to be invited onto the ticket as vice presidential nominee. If John Edwards, the runner-up in '04 did well enough to be made running mate, a moderately successful Obama would be the natural choice for '08.
Then, if the Democrats win, he will have all the foreign policy credentials he needs for life. Even if the ticket loses, assuming he acquits himself reasonably well, he immediately becomes the presumptive front-runner in the next presidential cycle. And if by some miracle he hits the lottery and wins in '08, well, then it is win-win-win.
He's a young man with a future. But the future recedes. He needs to run now. And lose. And win by losing.
“we need to be focused on blocking and tackling and not hail marys.”
Right you are; but what does that mean?
I read lots of name calling and clichés.
But no plans. What will happen? First, what will the Senate do? Restore language and send back? Where does the flow chart go from there? Will the bill revert to House version then or will they yield? If the ‘shutdown’ occurs (which has happened numerous times)will bo attempt to stop payments not really affected? Lots of things can happen and my crystal ball is a bit clouded!
Wow, who knew?
All: dumb asses.
Krauthammer, the Stopped Clock, is right on this one. Obamacare’s implementation will kill the Democrats for at least a generation. Suspend it, send the bill to Obama and the Democrat-run Senate. Let them choose, on a clean bill, to keep it running.
It’s a mess (for progressives and the Democratic Party), and we should be enjoying it.
Chuckie talks a big game but always advocates doing nothing. He’s a talking head, nothing more.
Krauthammer is being elitist here.
I can agree with him on a lot of issues but I do think he’s a Neo-Con.
“What a bunch of whining defeatists the GOP-e are. They got burned twenty years ago when Clinton and the media convinced the public that the people who passed a budget were responsible for shutting down the government, not the guy who vetoed it. So now they operate on the assumption that it always has to be that way. Well, it isnt 1995 anymore, and there are now conservative media outlets for them to present their case to the public. But not if they are afraid to make it.”
And per some people, the GOP may have suffered a bit at that time but not as bad as the media and others tell us or in other words, try to scare us about. At least, this is what Rush was saying.
Dr. Charles is a a typical RINO School “Always surrender before you fight” Republican.
In that way, defeat is always assured, and then Dr. Charles can smirk and say: “I told you so.”
Leading RINOs Boehner, Cantor, McConnell, McCain and Graham always bow low whenever Dr. Charles comes within earshot.
BTW, what would General George Patton say and then do?
"Go Mitt. Go Mitt. Go Mitt"
"Go Mitt. Go Mitt. Go Mitt"
If the republican party caves now, the party is dead, long live the “Tea Party”
“we need to be focused on blocking and tackling and not hail marys.
Right you are; but what does that mean?”
Fair question. I don’t have an easy answer. I don’t think it necessarily lies with Congress at all. We need some effective communicators who can break through the media crap, get noticed and expose what goes on. Given the propaganda media I don’t know how to get mass exposure. I understand what has to happen but not how to do it.
Congress is absolutely worthless unless we can clone Cruz and /or get enough communicators to stir up the masses and provide cover and confidence for the few good conservatives we have
Sometimes Krauthammer’s INTELLECT seems to reflect his physical condition, that of being paralyzed.
The public are so misinformed they need this.
Obama is upset he can’t party all week and get on the down low. I think part of it is to upset Obama’s social calendar.
He may be right, but only because the liberal elitist media will lie for O and create a narrative where the GOP are the bad guys starving the poor, women and children. Nevertheless, I support their actions. I’d rather go down fighting than sit by idly letting Obamacare destroy what’s left of our economy.
Will the voters see?
I hope so.
A lot depends on how well Republicans manage their messaging.
I’m sure - soon enough- the low information voters will have their ridiculous memes plastered all over FB, Twitter, and wherever else they can plant mind numbing stupidity.
And the sad thing is ... A lot of people out there believe that crap
THE PLAN is with our Nation’s Truckers: General Strike 11-13-2013.
The problem is that health care in the USA is run by insurance companies and it sucks. Republicans need to come up with a better system instead of just defunding Obamacare. What happens after that? They don’t have an answer. They need one.
The republicans lost last time because 1) they were bragging about shutting down the government and 2) they blinked when they were in the position of power.
In this case, first of all Obama is the one shutting down the government. Second, since this won't make it through the senate anyway, it is little more than a protest vote. Finally, the stupid law is hated anyway. This isn't some nebulous stand on principle no one understands by a bunch of hypocrites who don't have the principle in the first place.
“If CK is right and if the government shuts down then a worst case scenario would be the dems taking the house and holding the senate in 2014.”
Sorry to say this but, with the current crop of GOP in the House now,,,,not sure we’d notice much difference if that worst case happened
And the biggest, most intrusive insurance company is....???
Medicare. And its bastard sister, Medicaid.
No, the problem is that health care in the USA is by the federal government. And, yes, it sure as hell sucks.
I agree with you about reaching out. We should have a daily strategy thread here on FR,,or perhaps a strategy group?
I try every day to go to some very unfriendly blogs and speak the truth and invite others to listen. Sometimes I get engaged, sometimes ridiculed. What do I care? We here on FR,,personally,,each of us has to get the word OUT! WE can do this right from our homes! Let Cruz inspire us, or Reagan, or Sarah,,whoever!
We are Americans. We don’t give up!!!
I actually like Dr K. I feel I have learned much from him over time, such as,,, keep fighting!
Be PROUD when we are mocked! It’s nothing to shirk from. It’s a badge to wear. We press on no matter what. The victories add up over time....there is no reason to give up and every reason to fight!
I am sure Dr K is a fighter....and if I am to go down, it will be swinging! I won’t let my country go down, no way!
Mr. Krauthammer is an educated journalist and a respectable man in his profession, and yet he does not seem to understand the gravity of this situation as so many well paid and all overpaid politicians and staffers and DC talking heads can not understand. Obama nation care is an attack on the US Constitution and the Bill of rights and this is the reason it must be overturned as it will and already is destroying both the liberties and rights and economy of our beloved America and is making a whore out of a once great nation. The talking heads just can not see how important it is that the GOP make a stand on the defeat of Obamacare and all the evil done by it; it is indeed a hill worth fighting and dying for.
“The problem is that health care in the USA is run by insurance companies and it sucks. Republicans need to come up with a better system instead of just defunding Obamacare. What happens after that? They dont have an answer. They need one.”
I have a friend in the health care field. His input FWIW is it is not the insurance companies fault. They are middlemen. Heck it’s not even insurance. It’s like expecting your auto insurance to cover tune-ups.
He says it is mainly two things: medicare and emergency room cost-shifting combined with spoiled Americans (yes I said it) with unrealistic expectations. Put those together with no constraints imposed by consumers and you have a recipe for disaster. The constraints must come from consumers. If no one pays and it is considered free or entitled then hospitals and medical instrument manufacturers can charge as much as they can get away with.
Now with no pre-existing conditions and ObamaCare insurance premiums must double or triple to stay afloat. The answer is every American must have skin in the game and pay for what they consume. This will bring supply vs demand in check. This would bring health-care costs down if doctors & hospitals have to compete for your business.
Families themselves must decide whether an 80 year old family member gets a quadruple bypass. Right now many people think they’re entitled to one. The family should make those decisions based on their resources and loans or whatever and not my resources ... without government and insurance companies deciding life and death matters.
No one wants to hear all this. They want some easy solution. There isn’t one ... absent a complete overhaul. Heck I would prefer it the way it used to be then ObamaCare which just makes it worse.
I could see a few legislative tweaks that are already on the table -
1. repeal ObamaCare
2. allow insurance across state lines
2. healthcare savings plans
That’s it. Government should get the hell out of the way. Republicans don’t have to propose much - just focus on how ObamaCare is making it worse. Stay focused on that one point.
No free ER for illegal aliens would probably save some money and smooth the system
It’s always sort of mystifying to hear the likes of O’Reilly, as he did tonight, bemoan the fact that “the press will play this as the Republicans have shut down the government and they’ll be slaughtered” - O’Reilly is part of the press, and a major part - why does he so doubt that what he has to say won’t register with the public as much as, say, what Piers Morgan or Wolf Blitzer peddles? - Rush Limbaugh reaches twice as many listeners every day as do NBC, CBS, and ABC newscasts - won’t this help? - to simply give up every time with the fatalistic plaint that the other side will have their say and ours is helpless is the way to permanent impotence......
Seriously! It’s like these people are being bribed or something. Would Krauthammer give up his plan for Obamacare? In light of his disability, I’m sure the answer is “hell no”.
Yet, he thinks it’s ok to railroad a disillusioned public who is begging for someone to kill this monstrous bill. I’ve stopped trying to make sense out of rich peoples out of touch opinions.
Kraut hammer, the guy who in 2008 thought Obama was a really terrific candidate and likely voters for him.
At some point you need to just stand up and do what’s right for the Republic rather than be constantly tossed about by anchorless babble.
It is quite simple and EVERY republican needs to stated this again and again in EVERY news form.
“Our people are willing to fund the government just not Obamacare, where is their compromise?”
He may be right, maybe letting Obamacare wreak people’s lives is the best way to deal with this disaster.
“Krauthammer didnt see the Reagan victories or the Tea party victories. His opinion is drivel.”
In fact Krauthammer tried to defeat Reagan. Kraut was a speechwriter for Walter Mondale.
How does sour Krauthammer taste on sushi?
He should’ve stayed with psychiatry.
I saw that as I still DVR The Capital Gang for some reason, 1990s posterity I think.
Lots of going no-where drama .
Maybe The Kraut knows what will happen (how can he not?) and so this is intended to dampen the final stage, the finger pointing drama.
Yep, fingers will be pointing in all directions.
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