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After telling Catholics not to obsess with abortion, the Pope tells doctors NOT to perform abortions
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 20 September 2013 | Associated Press

Posted on 09/20/2013 6:55:31 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

Pope Francis encouraged Catholic doctors to refuse to perform abortions today in a bizarre U-turn on comments yesterday that condemned the church's obsession with 'small-minded things'.

In a remarkable 12,000 word interview published on Thursday, Francis said he was resolved to reform the church, which had a tendency to get caught up in 'small minded things'.

‘It is not necessary to talk about these issues all the time,’ he said. ‘We cannot insist only on issues related to abortion, gay marriage and the use of contraceptive methods.’

But today he seemed a different man, telling gynecologists: 'Every child that isn't born, but is unjustly condemned to be aborted, has the face of Jesus Christ, has the face of the Lord.'

He also talked fervently about the impact of money and greed on society.

'The widespread preoccupation with profits and today's throw-away culture, that enslave the hearts and minds of us all, come at a high cost: they serve to destroy the human race, above all the weak.'

'Greed,' he said, 'is a sin against the First Commandment. One cannot worship God and money.

'Here is why. Money becomes idolatry. And Jesus tells us that you cannot serve money and God. It must be one or the other.'

Describing money as 'a seduction that makes you to slide slowly into perdition', he added: 'Money corrupts thought, it corrupts faith.'

The medical profession, he added, is a paradox because 'while we allow people new rights, we do not always protect life as a primary value and a basic right of every man.'

Speaking to a congregation of Catholic gynecologists in Rome, he declared, "Every unborn child, though condemned to be aborted, has Christ's face." He urged them to refuse to participate in abortions.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: journomorons; mediaduh; popefrancis
News Flash: Pope Still Catholic.


1 posted on 09/20/2013 6:55:31 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Leftist morons!

Now, I actually disagree with pope on one point. I don't think that the Church obsesses about gays and abortion and such. I think that the Church is always defending itself and that the Progressives are obsessed.

That being said, I agree with his new tone. But just because he tells us not to obsess about rules and put love first, he is not selling out on the fundamentals.

The Left can't comprehend this-- if you are not with them on the issues, you are obviously a BAD PERSON.

I knew from the start that this Pope would confound every part of the spectrum.

2 posted on 09/20/2013 7:00:29 PM PDT by Lysandru
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The only thing that comes to mind here for me is ‘you can’t be all things to all people”


3 posted on 09/20/2013 7:01:53 PM PDT by BeadCounter (Really? Syria?)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Call me "small-minded", old-fashioned, hidebound, a mossback, etc. - but what part of "Thou Shalt Not Kill" do they not understand? I tremble to see the Pope and the Princes of the Church applying a lot of highly nuanced quiddities to the plain language of Scripture.

If I wanted nuance, I'd look to John Chervaux de Merde Kerry and others of his ilk. As to my Church, I look for it to bear true Witness to the Truth of God.

Have they not read their own Catechism?

The Catechism of the Catholic Church
On Respect for Human Life
Sections 2259 – 2283
(From the Holy See Website)




"Dia shábháil ar fad anseo!"

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

4 posted on 09/20/2013 7:06:58 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Lysandru

My impression is that Pope Francis didn’t articulate well by using the phrase “small minded things”.
I’m guessing he meant to say The Church can only evangelize by being loving and welcoming first.
If you are always in condemnation mode - people will tune you out.
This does not mean - as the MSM- would have us believe- that he has any intention of changing one iota of the teaching.
The Pope is still Catholic - oh the horror!


5 posted on 09/20/2013 7:08:48 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I'm pretty sure what's on display here is not the Pope's confusion, but the media's.

First they create this narrative, with their selecting, their cropping, and their framing, that Pope Francis is a wonderful enlightened progressive fellow who is following the secular modernist line.

A prime example: they interpret the phrase "small-minded things" to mean the Moral Law as it relates to the Sanctity of Sex, the Sanctity of Life, and the Sovereignty of God. (!) (!) and (!) --- an interpretation which simply effaces several millennia of Judeo-Christian moral teaching and Pope Franicis' lifelong role as a diligent expounder of that Law.

Then they are bumfoozled when it turns out that's not what he meant. Duh?

Pope Francis' point about "not obsessing" about the currently disputed moral principles, is that the first duty is always to evangelize: to invite people into a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus.

What is our Gospel? Not the Bad News (law, law, and More Law) but the Good News (Know Jesus, the Lord, the Savior!) If they know and love the Lord, they will receive the grace to know the Law and do it, because the Law will be in their hearts.

Can I please have an Amen?!

6 posted on 09/20/2013 7:10:21 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God." -- -1 John 4:7)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Daily Wail is stooping to printing AP articles now?


7 posted on 09/20/2013 7:10:21 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Scotswife

Kind of disappointed that the Pope let himself be so unclear. He’s a Jesuit, they’re supposed to be the smartest.


8 posted on 09/20/2013 7:11:09 PM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
. . . bizarre U-turn . . .

No bias in the AP these days, I see.

9 posted on 09/20/2013 7:12:29 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: sgtyork

I suppose.
I’m just glad no one is watching my every word just so people can twist and turn meaning where there is none.
Add in the factor of translating the real meaning from the original language, and you’ve got plenty of opportunity for ant- Christian forces to make mountains out of mole hills.

He is a smart man - he will clarify his position


10 posted on 09/20/2013 7:18:48 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Mrs. Don-o

AMEN!!


11 posted on 09/20/2013 7:22:03 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife

IMHO, Francis is playing the media. This isn’t the first time he’s said something provocative that gets the global media scrambling, misquoting, hearing what they want to hear, and then having their balloon popped when everybody is paying attention.


12 posted on 09/20/2013 7:22:50 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Amen.


13 posted on 09/20/2013 7:24:22 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: Joe 6-pack

They could use a lot of popping.
And the funny thing is... They are still reporting on this as if HE is the one who is confused!


14 posted on 09/20/2013 7:24:47 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I suppose one should look to occupy places of blessings and with people of blessings rather than go after transgressors or transgressions which are symptoms rather than the disease of the heart - wrong consciousness. Money is a byproduct of fruitfulness which like the flesh can be turned into an object of desire or force instead of applying it as a well funxtioning vehicle.


15 posted on 09/20/2013 7:30:32 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: sgtyork
Kind of disappointed that the Pope let himself be so unclear.
I agree! He can be confusing.
16 posted on 09/20/2013 7:30:59 PM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: Scotswife

Every new pope that does not already have a reputation as a conservative is hailed as the new liberator of homosexuals and abortionists, etc., as essentially a mainline Protestant or Unitarian. The Press et al are hoping they can overwhelm the new pope with Approval so that he becomes what they acclaim him for. Doesn’t work.


17 posted on 09/20/2013 7:35:13 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: arthurus

Very well put.


18 posted on 09/20/2013 7:49:51 PM PDT by posterchild
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To: arthurus

True- hence their mistreatment of Benedict XVI.
They already knew where he stood, and attacked him from day one.


19 posted on 09/20/2013 7:53:17 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Yes, but does he have such a tin ear that he is completely unaware, insensitive, and totally oblivious to the massive, intense controversy and embroiling brouhaha that ensue every single time he dons those fancy, luxurious, expensive, fuzzy pink bunny slippers, especially being so close to all the hungry chipmunks who live right there in the forest, directly behind that tree line?!?!?!?


20 posted on 09/20/2013 8:29:26 PM PDT by Heart-Rest (Good reading ==> | ncregister.com | catholic.com | ewtn.com | newadvent.org |)
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To: Joe 6-pack
"IMHO, Francis is playing the media. This isn’t the first time he’s said something provocative that gets the global media scrambling, misquoting, hearing what they want to hear, and then having their balloon popped when everybody is paying attention."

It seems sort of reminiscent of that old "rope-a-dope" technique in boxing, where the media expend all their energy flailing away at one of his vaguely disquieting statements, then he goes "BAM!!!", laying out not just the precise teaching of the Church, but the moral reasoning behind the teaching as well, for all the world to see and hear.

(Some shaky "Catholic" CINO's -- like certain American politicians -- may be listening to him as well, thinking at first that he "believes" just like they do.)

21 posted on 09/20/2013 8:36:56 PM PDT by Heart-Rest (Good reading ==> | ncregister.com | catholic.com | ewtn.com | newadvent.org |)
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To: Lysandru
Now, I actually disagree with pope on one point. I don't think that the Church obsesses about gays and abortion and such. I think that the Church is always defending itself and that the Progressives are obsessed.

I think you are right. I think normal people have never been obsessed about these subjects, nor normally would the church. It is the "progressive" Left that is obsessed and driving the conversation.

Its all they want to talk about. And they are the ones who misunderstood, perhaps willfully, the pope's remarks. Love the sinner, care about the sinner, Christ died for the sinner, we are all sinners. But sin is still sin.

Hence, Francis says, have sympathy for the woman who has had an abortion, she is in pain. Understand that the homosexual is a wounded soul. Christ loves them and can give them new life. Understand that you can't really preach to them until you have shown them that God loves them because they aren't going to hear you.

But sin remains sin. The church's teaching did not change.

22 posted on 09/20/2013 8:59:56 PM PDT by marron
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The pope is saying hate the sin, love the sinner. You can be sure he is a staunch Catholic. I read an interview with him before the papal election and his opinions do not deviate from the doctrine. The difference is he is a shepherd. He cares for his whole flock.


23 posted on 09/20/2013 9:01:50 PM PDT by CaraMiaR (Excuse me, I have to adjust my aluminium hat.)
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To: Lysandru

Amen.


24 posted on 09/21/2013 4:36:45 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Amen!


25 posted on 09/21/2013 4:49:56 AM PDT by GatorGirl (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Lysandru
he tells us not to obsess about rules and put love first,
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If we put Christ first in our lives we won't need to be thinking about “rules” because all the right rules will just automatically fall right into place, exactly where they should be. It's simple really, and Pope Francis “gets it!”

It's the godless Marxist lib-Progs who are the fools constantly obsessing over man made “rules”.

26 posted on 09/21/2013 5:10:11 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Pope Francis’ point about “not obsessing” about the currently disputed moral principles, is that the first duty is always to evangelize: to invite people into a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

AMEN!


27 posted on 09/21/2013 5:11:47 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Pope Francis’ point about “not obsessing” about the currently disputed moral principles, is that the first duty is always to evangelize: to invite people into a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

AMEN!


28 posted on 09/21/2013 5:12:05 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Amen!


29 posted on 09/21/2013 5:40:08 PM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore (If Obama were twice as smart as he is, he would be a wit)
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To: Heart-Rest

Now that was funny!

30 posted on 09/21/2013 6:45:56 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana." - Groucho Marx)
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