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Obama calls Boehner, rules out debt negotiations
Politico ^ | 9-21-13 | JAKE SHERMAN and JOHN BRESNAHAN

Posted on 09/21/2013 4:09:45 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

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To: afraidfortherepublic
Jury is still out on this one not sure yet.
My gut tell me its possible but without corroborating sources its a no go.
51 posted on 09/21/2013 6:09:53 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks afraidfortherepublic.
52 posted on 09/21/2013 6:13:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Obozo is ALL TALK and NO SUBSTANCE.

If they haven't figured out yet that they can FLATTEN Obunga with this whole situation then they never will.

53 posted on 09/21/2013 6:31:45 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Pelosi gets her marching orders from Obama...


54 posted on 09/21/2013 6:58:42 PM PDT by spokeshave (While Zero plays silly card games like Spades - Putin plays for keeps.)
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To: darkwing104

And two.


55 posted on 09/21/2013 6:59:01 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: xzins

since when did Zero care about a budget?

This needs to be pointed out.

We have been with out a budget so long not having one is the status quo.


56 posted on 09/21/2013 7:00:22 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: old curmudgeon

Makes sense. I firmly believe Obama is seriously disturbed. Both his parents abandoned him. He shows no care or concern for his family at all, especially his extended family, but even his nuclear family. Seems to spend most of his time avoiding them.


57 posted on 09/21/2013 7:01:21 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: svcw

“I’m not going to negotiate with the debt limit.”

What a coincidence, Barry, neither are we.

Mister contitutional professor seems to keep forgetting the fact that spending bills don’t originate with the president, they originate in the house. And given that most conservatives don’t see a shutdown of the government as being all that terrible, we’ve got what YOU want.

I note with interest that the sequester hasn’t brought about any of the dire predictions of cataclysm. The only thing that a governmental shutdown will bring is the horrible proof that democrats don’t want anyone to see...that shutting the federal government down won’t be such a bad thing after all.


58 posted on 09/21/2013 7:01:43 PM PDT by VideoPaul
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To: JLS

1. A continuing resolution for the year that does not fund Obama care.

(not enough, but a good settling point. we need massive cuts)

2. A debt ceiling increase targeted to get the US through the year.

(hey visa! I know I go out to eat every night and blow 300 bucks on pull tabs.. Let me do it another year would ya?)

Option 3 is my choice.

CUT/GUT it all!

Return the difference to the tax PAYERS.


59 posted on 09/21/2013 7:02:27 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: JLS
1. A continuing resolution for the year that does not fund Obama care.

2. A debt ceiling increase targeted to get the US through the year.

NO...because all the "Continuing Resolutions" keep the massive stimulus package spending that Bush signed off on IN PLACE.

60 posted on 09/21/2013 7:03:36 PM PDT by spokeshave (While Zero plays silly card games like Spades - Putin plays for keeps.)
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To: sergeantdave

I thought the 3 things blacks feared the most were:

1.ghosts
2.dogs
3.certified mail


61 posted on 09/21/2013 7:06:16 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Obama is right. There is no need to negotiate. Congressman Boner is going to roll over for him any time he asks.


62 posted on 09/21/2013 7:12:51 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Is there a transcript of what Boner replied to zero? The GOP needs to get smart and start releasing this kind of communication between zero and House or Senate members. These communications are no longer private once the WH releases their side of the communication!


63 posted on 09/21/2013 7:14:04 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
“The President telephoned Speaker Boehner and told him again that the full faith and credit of the United States should not and will not be subject to negotiation,”

The Liar-In-Chief has plenty of cash coming in each month to pay the interest on the US debt. What he is yelping about - like the little cry baby that he is - is that he might have to postpone some cash outlays to his welfare voting class pigs lined up at the Obama trough - e.g. stop the free phone give away.

BECAUSE CRY BABY WANTS TO SPEND SOMETHING DOES NOT MAKE IT A "FULL FAITH AND CREDIT" OF THE USA. IS IT IN THE BUDGET? HAS CONGRESS APPROPRIATED IT ANYWHERE? AMERICA IF YOU FALL FOR THIS CRAP, YOU DESERVE EVERY SECOND OF LIVING UNDER THIS TYRANT. SAME TO YOU MEDIA LAP DOGS - HOW ABOUT SOME HARD QUESTIONS AND SOME HONESTY.
64 posted on 09/21/2013 7:46:27 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: old curmudgeon

I think you hit the nail on the head. He got slapped down pretty good over trying to get us in a war in Syria, now he needs to go and push someone else around.


65 posted on 09/21/2013 9:07:31 PM PDT by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: spokeshave

I rushed. I meant to say a CR with the sequester intact.


66 posted on 09/21/2013 9:19:30 PM PDT by JLS
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Then Baraq has made himself responsible for any government shutdown. Period. No prisoners on this one, Republicans, and above all, no capitulation.


67 posted on 09/21/2013 9:29:49 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (My PV2 is my hero.)
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To: freeangel
Now I know why Boner's face is so, so tanned. It spends most of it's time up O’shits ass. Come get me NSA!
68 posted on 09/21/2013 9:42:09 PM PDT by Squat (Deport the illegals now! Turn Home Depot's into the prisons to hold the illegals!.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

“Given the long history of using debt limit increases to achieve bipartisan deficit reduction and economic reforms, the speaker...”

This actually happened when, ever, in history?


69 posted on 09/21/2013 9:44:32 PM PDT by lurk
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I don’t know why Boehner didn’t call Ubama first and tell him there would be no debt negotiations.


70 posted on 09/21/2013 9:45:33 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: afraidfortherepublic

If only they’d blow something up. He does negotiate with terrorists.


71 posted on 09/21/2013 11:29:11 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Vaquero

Because Obama is a STREET THUG!!


72 posted on 09/22/2013 12:40:46 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: PAR

Let’s back off Boehner BASHING for a while, OK??? He did hold his caucus together for the anti-Obamacare vote, so let’s start bashing the DEMS....OK?? Just for a while.


73 posted on 09/22/2013 12:43:22 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Larry Kudlow said it was like the girl repeatedly phoning up her boyfriend to yell at him that she was “Not Speaking” to him anymore. Then both parties slamming the phone.


74 posted on 09/22/2013 1:12:50 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This is something that needs to be shouted from the rooftops...

OBAMA REFUSES TO NEGOTIATE!

Why? I’ve read enough in the comment sections on these articles to KNOW the liberal/progressives don’t have a clue that it is the DEMOCRATS that are holding all this up, not the Republicans.

From last night one comment to me was then the Republicans should pass a bill without 0bamacare in it and they can all come back to it later. I returned to them a link about what the heck the House passed.

AND I am sorry to say this, but I do think we need to downplay the fact that funding of the ACA is not in the bill of the CR. The House passed a bill to keep the government running period. I think the marketing guru’s of the Republican Party are failing to get the correct talking point out there! And like 0bama’s redline, we’re failing on the overall message, AGAIN.

I am to the point that I do think somebody needs to write the darn script and talking points for the Republican Party or at least let them borrow 0bama’s teleprompter for a day or two.


75 posted on 09/22/2013 2:50:13 AM PDT by EBH ( Freeman: A person not in slavery or serfdom.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
“The President telephoned Speaker Boehner and told him again that the full faith and credit of the United States should not and will not be subject to negotiation,” the official said in a statement provided to POLITICO. “The President reiterated that it is the constitutional responsibility of the US Congress to pass the nation’s budget and pay the nation’s bills.”

Boehner's response should have been, Well, Mr. President, we did pass a CR to keep the government operating at this time. Please call Sen. Harry Reid and tell him about it. Good night and have a nice weekend. Click.

76 posted on 09/22/2013 2:54:42 AM PDT by EBH ( Freeman: A person not in slavery or serfdom.)
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To: JLS
I wonder what people of Freerepublic would think of the following deal:

1. A continuing resolution for the year that does not fund Obama care.

2. A debt ceiling increase targeted to get the US through the year.

At first glance, I could go with that. At a minimum, it delays 0asshatcare and gives us the midterms just as the implementation date approaches - which is good timing to keep the house and take the senate in a big way.

77 posted on 09/22/2013 3:50:36 AM PDT by Principled
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To: Principled

The Obama-Boehner call came on the same day as the GOP-controlled House passed a $986 billion resolution to avert a government shutdown Oct. 1. But that bill that also defunds Obamacare.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/barack-obama-john-boehner-debt-negotiations-97153.html#ixzz2fcMwj6sl


78 posted on 09/22/2013 3:55:07 AM PDT by EBH ( Freeman: A person not in slavery or serfdom.)
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To: EBH

Yeah I meant to convey that an acceptable final disposition of the 0bamcare/CR/debt limit battle to me would be the delay of 0bamacare in a passed CR ... and ... a debt limit increase only to get us thru one year.

The final disposition would put us right back where we are now - but next time it will be immediately prior to midterms.

Heck, we’d get two things we want [delay 0dumbocare and set up for an election eve fight over the same things] and they’d get one thing they’d want [one yr of spending at today’s levels.]

I think the election time being at exactly the same time as the 0bamacare/CR/debt limit fight is the best gift we could ask for.


79 posted on 09/22/2013 4:07:03 AM PDT by Principled
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To: afraidfortherepublic

So the government shuts down.

It happened in 1995, and somehow we survived.


80 posted on 09/22/2013 4:10:45 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: Vaquero
So let me get this straight. Zer0 picked up the phone and called Boner to tell him he is not going to negotiate? So don’t negotiate. Why bother calling.

Exactly what I was thinking.

81 posted on 09/22/2013 4:12:55 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: ScottinVA
So the government shuts down.

It happened in 1995, and somehow we survived.

Personally, I'd like to keep getting paid, and I have no doubt that since I'm an active duty Soldier, my paycheck is the very first thing on the chopping block.

82 posted on 09/22/2013 4:14:53 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: old curmudgeon

I am just asking, are you sure about this?

What if Obama waves his magic wand and by EO or EA orders his Secretary of the Treasury (who ever that may be) to start selling all of those bonds that have been purchased under QE3. This is not appropriated money, but money that the treasury has tied up in the stock market.

How many billions of dollars is this in fake phoney QE money ?????

I would not anything past this Mooslim goat humper who is trying to destroy America. Acomplish two things, crash the market and bring down the house.


83 posted on 09/22/2013 4:19:22 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: Vaquero

Because he assumed Boehner would cave immediately.


84 posted on 09/22/2013 4:54:00 AM PDT by omega4179
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Well let’s see now, who is he not going to be allowed to receive their pay checks: those on Social Security, Retired Military, Active Duty Military, the disabled, retired fed workers, post office employees, other gov employees. But you can bet that the homeless, illegals, funding for Islumic terrorists weapons, Obama phone, etc. will continue.


85 posted on 09/22/2013 7:06:50 AM PDT by RetiredArmy ("As in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of Man." Come Quickly LORD Jesus!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
“The President reiterated that it is the constitutional responsibility of the US Congress to pass the nation’s budget and pay the nation’s bills.”

Congress did its job and did just that. It's the Senate and POSUS that are shutting down the government.

86 posted on 09/22/2013 7:09:25 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Future Snake Eater

I was active-duty in 1995... Unless something has changed, the military continues getting paid.


87 posted on 09/22/2013 8:50:21 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: ScottinVA
I'm not so sure:

OBAMA: MILITARY WILL SEE DISRUPTION IN PAY IF CONGRESS DOESN’T RAISE DEBT CEILING, PASS BUDGET

88 posted on 09/22/2013 9:19:52 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater
Freedomworks references some guidance that says military pay continues.

http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/dean-clancy/the-facts-a-government-shutdown-wont-hurt-the-mili

89 posted on 09/22/2013 9:36:28 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: ScottinVA

Interesting write-up, but there’s nothing there that makes me feel any better about this.

It says military won’t be furloughed. I totally agree with that—we’ll be forced to come in to work for free.

It then says about pay cessation: “if the past is any indication, active duty servicemembers are not likely to miss any paychecks.”

The “if” and “not likely” don’t take into account Barack F’in Obama who clearly hates the military with a passion.

I do wonder, though, if the House will go with the single department spending bills as a counter-move to the inevitably Senate and White House stonewalling to the as-is CR. That could get interesting.


90 posted on 09/22/2013 9:47:40 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

How come nobody is playing on the air again and again just how uncooperative and non-compromising Obama is being?

He wants absolute everything for himself or its somehow our fought if we won’t give it to him? Obama doesn’t even want to work for it! Obama wants us to create all his bills and do all his work for him.


91 posted on 09/22/2013 11:35:20 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: afraidfortherepublic
The last time this “budget battle” went on, weren't there promises to reduce government spending so as NOT to have to continue to increase the debt limit (something Senator Obama said was "un-American)??? Maybe if Obama and Mooch reined in their OWN unlimited spending on all their vacations and he stopped sending taxpayer money to terrorist groups, we wouldn't HAVE to keep raising the limit!
92 posted on 09/22/2013 2:52:38 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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