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Why Obama May Lose the Shutdown Battle. (We will win this)
Real ClearPolitics ^ | 09/21/2013 | Rich Galen

Posted on 09/21/2013 5:06:42 PM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles

President Barack Obama, fresh from having his lunch money taken from him by Russia's Vladimir Putin, is flailing about trying to find someone he can shift the public's attention to. He has chosen House Speaker John Boehner (R-Oh) as the person and the upcoming end of the U.S. government's fiscal year on September 30 as his verbal weapon. I think that is the wrong fight against the wrong guy.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 113th; obama; obamacare; shutdown
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1 posted on 09/21/2013 5:06:42 PM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

You can’t just spend, spend, spend. Neither people nor nations.


2 posted on 09/21/2013 5:09:05 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots
OK ... a few gummint workers are told they will be let go one week before Christmas.

A flurry of TV spots will ensue and the presstitutes will hammer Republicans for being so evil.

After a week or so ... it's time for Thanksgiving vacation in Hawaii.


THAT'S when we call out OUR fifth column and deny re-entry CONUS.

3 posted on 09/21/2013 5:13:41 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles
Obama can't hope to duplicate the chessboard as it was in 1995-96. I said after the shutdown in 1996 that a skilled White House, aggressively on message is an unstoppable political force in America.

He left something out. A White House with 95% of the media carrying it's water and demonizing the leader of the opposition is unstoppable. The media destroyed Newt with a 24/7 onslaught of hate filled slime and lies, not Slick Willie.

4 posted on 09/21/2013 5:18:45 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles
Harry Reid wants no part of a bill avoiding a government shut down that includes de-funding ObamaCare. He doesn't want his vulnerable Democratic Senators to have to vote on it.

Well, I hope Mitch McConnell grows a spine and a set of gonads to call out Reid's procedural bag of tricks...

I have NO DOUBT McCain if given the opportunity would stand with Reid..

5 posted on 09/21/2013 5:20:32 PM PDT by Popman (Liberal wars are about killing people for humanitarian reasons...)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

“...Harry Reid wants no part of a bill avoiding a government shut down that includes de-funding ObamaCare. He doesn’t want his vulnerable Democratic Senators to have to vote on it.”

If McConnell doesn’t force them to he deserves to be primaried and lose. Won’t forgive him. No excuse.

We can’t win the vote in the Senate but at least make Harry have a real vote on Obamacare- not a ‘filled amendment tree, amendment to strike’ farce.


6 posted on 09/21/2013 5:22:37 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles
President Barack Obama, fresh from having his lunch money taken from him by Russia's Vladimir Putin...

ROTFLMAO! Well played, Mr. Galen.

7 posted on 09/21/2013 5:26:36 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

I think I see how this ends: Ubama and the rats will agree to “delay” implementation for everybody else the way they already delayed it for big corporations and other special interests. See, this way, everybody “wins”. The Republicans get to pat themselves on the back and claim they brought (the lame duck, so who cares?) Ubama to his knees, and the rats get off the hook from having to defend Mengelecare leading up to the 2014 elections (that is, the next year won’t be daily headlines full of Mengelecare implementation nightmares). I swear, this is the outcome both sides want.


8 posted on 09/21/2013 5:26:51 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ReaganÜberAlles
The last few lines from the article nicely summarize the theme:

Obama can't hope to duplicate the chessboard as it was in 1995-96. I said after the shutdown in 1996 that a skilled White House, aggressively on message is an unstoppable political force in America.

Obama's White House is not skilled (as he proved to the world over the past three weeks), and it has no message to stick to at all.

And finally he doesn't have Newt Gingrich, who was Bill Clinton's strongest weapon.

I agree with all of this. But will we avoid the Gingrich fate. I personally doubt it. But nothing ventured, nothing gained. I say go for it. Shut 'em down.

9 posted on 09/21/2013 5:29:42 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: ChildOfThe60s

“The Media” has never been more vulnerable.

They dont have a monopoly on the message, and the messenger is a moron

All it takes is the resolve in the House to not pass a CR that funds the communist nationalization of the United States medical industry.

If you think just because the communists controlled all three branches for two years back in 2009 and passed this nonsense under cover of darkness we will have to live with it for ever, you are crazy.


10 posted on 09/21/2013 5:32:43 PM PDT by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

11 posted on 09/21/2013 5:33:54 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

I think the old, worn-out mantra of “speaking truth to power” has come home to roost and take a crap right on Barry’s head. Cruz has become a real community organizer in the Senate. Ain’t Karma a bitch?


12 posted on 09/21/2013 5:35:19 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

a friggin kgb russian commie can best obama but all of our pussy republicans can-t because they can’t handle or shoot’down democrat cries of racism?

this is our best. frigging pussies’afraid of obamedia and a black commie muslim president who can’t find his ass with both hands and a TOTUS.


13 posted on 09/21/2013 5:35:54 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

We can’t win the vote in the Senate, but we can filibuster in order to keep Harry Reid from performing more of his monkey tricks.

Unfortunately, Mitch McConnell says he is opposed to a filibuster. Can he be pressured to change his mind on that?


14 posted on 09/21/2013 5:36:36 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Yes. Tho it’s not a popular opinion here. Obama still owns the media. They’ll make up stories if little old ladies eating cat food,soldiers in Afghanistan without food or ammo.....blind kids being thrown on streets. By the time their finished we’ll be saying Speaker Pelosi again. I think Obamacare is such a wreck ...hell let them implement it. When it collapses we can blame it on the dims. Obama is on the ropes he’s praying for a government shut down.


15 posted on 09/21/2013 5:41:38 PM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Rome2000

I was talking about the situation when it was Clinton and Newt.

In this battle, although we have nearly all of the conventional media cheer leading for Obozo and actively trying to destroy our standard bearers, we have a much better chance.

IMO, our biggest weakness is the GOPe (Mitch McConnell et al) sabotaging us and selling us out. We are fighting a war on two fronts. We need folks willing to put their political careers on the line and go for all the marbles. Most of these guys, you throw down the gauntlet and they pee their pants.

My rep Brett Guthrie is IMO a “moderate” who constantly calls himself a conservative. Good at giving “no answer” answers.


16 posted on 09/21/2013 5:43:41 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

I fear the GOP leadership will be content to be the eunuchs in Emperor Obama’s court and will cave on this impasse.


17 posted on 09/21/2013 5:47:25 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Cicero
Dont need the Senate for anything

House must pass a CR that includes commiecare.

Everytime that degenrate cook Reid sends to the House a reconciled CR that has commiecare in it, it can be voted down again.

Tea Party GOP can play this game all the way to election day. Pass seperate bills to keep certain parts open , or go on vacation for all we care.

There are checks and balances, and the foreigner in the WH and his minions in Congress cannot fund commie care unless the House votes for it.

18 posted on 09/21/2013 5:47:55 PM PDT by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

He would loose if I was speaker...but I am not.


19 posted on 09/21/2013 5:48:25 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Blackirish
I think Obamacare is such a wreck ...hell let them implement it. When it collapses we can blame it on the dims.

We can blame all we like. The collapse will bring on single payer government run HC. They are destroying private sector insurance, there will be no insurance structure to fall back on.

I think that ObamaCare has already caused so much damage, that we are almost at the tipping point now where there is no going back.

In any case, a united GOP could win this, but there are a lot of traitors in the ranks and leadership. A traitor is worse than the enemy.

20 posted on 09/21/2013 5:52:03 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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