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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 22 September 2013
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 22 September 2013 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 09/22/2013 4:51:18 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: JLAGRAYFOX

McCaskle is using the usual nonsense to scare the American people, but will not talk about Obamacare’s problems.

Fix it? When?

The exchanges are going to help all these people? She is lying through her teeth.


51 posted on 09/22/2013 6:32:02 AM PDT by bray (Coming soon: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: Fishtalk

Congrats Pat


52 posted on 09/22/2013 6:32:17 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: From The Deer Stand
this McCaskill woman is worse that fingernails on the blackboard. What a hag.

Not to mention a lying, spinning bich.

A typical she-RAT, just like Hitlery and The Washrag.

53 posted on 09/22/2013 6:33:38 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering FREAKS!)
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To: ken5050

I haven’t seen it but did see O’Reilly eat his lunch over media bias, which Kurtz refused to acknowledge as existing.


54 posted on 09/22/2013 6:33:57 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: Believe spin and lies will save their corrupt party.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Watched Wallace get real snarky with Tucker Carlson this morning. It was a side (Dem/Lib/Progressive) of Wallace I figured existed, but it came out blatantly this morning.


55 posted on 09/22/2013 6:34:13 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Alas Babylon!

thanks AB!!!

NRA...Lapiere doing awesome!
Now, he has a mother who lost her daughter in Aurora...ALL FEELINGS....Lets not fix the problem..lets just make sure that there are not “more guns”.

Actually she is agreeing with a lot of Lapiere, but then goes off into emotionalism about “restrictions” and of course Gregory focuses on the FEELINGS.


56 posted on 09/22/2013 6:35:46 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Alas Babylon!

Kimberly Strassel and Smiley Tavis???Oh this should be good.

Strassel is awesome!!!!


57 posted on 09/22/2013 6:36:55 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: TomGuy

friends@foxnews.com


58 posted on 09/22/2013 6:36:58 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Notice the liberals speaking the liberal line of how Repubs are going to be blamed. Perhaps they will get the credit of the shutdown.

Now Rove beating up on Cruz that he didn’t go begging to the GOPe.


59 posted on 09/22/2013 6:38:46 AM PDT by bray (Coming soon: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: bray

End it, don’t mend it. The Dems and their acolytes in the MSM are wont to say that Obamacare is the law of the land and that the Reps can’t repeal it and should move on. Funny, but the Dems never allow the law of the land to stop them in changing the laws. DOMA was the law of the land.


60 posted on 09/22/2013 6:39:37 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Panel attacking Cruz, especially Karl Rove. Surprise surprise!


61 posted on 09/22/2013 6:39:41 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering FREAKS!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
It should be easy for Senate Rs to support House Republicans in stopping the trainwreck.

Train wreck? Speaking of which. Wonder if Max Baucus (D-MT) will side with Cruz and other pubbies in stopping this atrocity?

62 posted on 09/22/2013 6:41:16 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Bernard

Brit Hume - proRomney proRove proObamaCARE:
“They (conservatives) don’t have the votes”
and the liberal Obama-backer Hume
actually blames conservatives for HIS own fear of
an impending shutdown.

Amy Walter - “could not agree more”.
“Republicans have no strategy”

Wallace (smiling) “Could not disagree with that”.

Rove lauded by Wallace: Blames Cruz for not
discussing it with Rove and Romney. Rove demands
to know what is going, and having respect ($$$$).
Shameless protector of Obama.
“Republicans do not have an advantage.”

D. Kucinich: “This is about political theatre.
There will not be a gov’t shutdown.”
He is the ONLY adult, speaks clearly and
defends the people

Wallace interrupts him and “reminds” him
that he supports RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE
(must have been a signed Agreement
before the panel).

Summary: The FOX “News” panel is one-sided,
and pro-RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE.


63 posted on 09/22/2013 6:41:17 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Hey Rove,

Did that Sarah Palin punch leave a bruse on your lip?

64 posted on 09/22/2013 6:41:41 AM PDT by fedupjohn (America...Designed by Geniuses...Now inhabited by Idiots..Palin 2016...)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Rove hates the Tea Party. Hey Karl, when was the last time you were right about any election? What if he is wrong and we are right about the Repubs standing for something rather than nothing?


65 posted on 09/22/2013 6:43:17 AM PDT by bray (Coming soon: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: Diogenesis
Wallace interrupts him and “reminds” him that he supports RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE (must have been a signed Agreement before the panel).

You forgot to add that Wallace noted that Kucinich supports single payer and that Kucinich said that we will continue to have these problems as long as private insurance companies are involved.

66 posted on 09/22/2013 6:44:50 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Bushbacker1
Wonder if Max Baucus (D-MT) will side with Cruz and other pubbies in stopping this atrocity?

I doubt it, after all...he's a RAT. They'll say one thing, and then vote as they're told.

67 posted on 09/22/2013 6:45:45 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering FREAKS!)
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To: kabar

To have Kookcinch on FOX who is an open communist is embarrassing.


68 posted on 09/22/2013 6:46:09 AM PDT by bray (Coming soon: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

-— Panel attacking Cruz, especially Karl Rove. Surprise surprise! -—

Man, you have a strong stomach. I can’t watch.

What struck me about the Cruz/McKaskill debate is how easy this could be to win, if Republicans stuck together.

I think Ted will cross the finish line, even with a bunch of knives in his back.


69 posted on 09/22/2013 6:46:46 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: kabar

He did not say private insurance companies, he said for profit which is an attack on capitalism. Not to mention Blue Cross and others are not for profit. They want nationalized HC and enslave everyone.


70 posted on 09/22/2013 6:48:47 AM PDT by bray (Coming soon: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

23 seconds - MSNBC - Meet the Press
Lee: We’ve Got 46 Votes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSgdVqeGtOY


71 posted on 09/22/2013 6:49:36 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: bray
I’d rather not take strategic advice from a guy who was zero for 2012 and turned what should have been two walk off presidential wins into an extra inning affair and a late inning comeback.

"The Architect" my......foot.

72 posted on 09/22/2013 6:51:00 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: bray; All
They need to hold firm and keep this fight through the shutdown and then redouble their efforts to put Obama on an island as the one person who is forcing the shutdown to simply force his namesake monstrosity. Let him try to defend it as he becomes weaker and weaker. The American people will realize after a couple weeks that the shutdown of the gummit will not be the end of the world and they are fine without it. Couple this with the fight against a bigger and more tyrannical regime and you have the perfect storm for a change of thought between the Rulers from the ruled.

Your logic as usual is impeccable. Problem is we need to be dealing with an opponent who cares about something more than his next political move.We aren't.

All the regime cares about are numbers. And they have had the debt ceiling debacle figured out for some time.It was even timed to start while Syria ended as predicted by some here. Whether or not Reid sends the bill back to Boehner or does nothing probably won't matter.

I listened to an audio clip between Mark Levin and Ted Cruz and it appears the game plan is for Boehner to simply send individual funding bills for each dept,possibly one at a time, to Reid and then see what happens.

This method is only good if your opponent actually cares if people suffer or not!

They don't!!

All they care about once again is political gain nothing else.

Unless the Dear Leaders numbers start to fall which is unlikely since the media will be covering his skinny ass 24/7 and have already started with how terrible a govt. shut down would be and how it will cost jobs all due to us, he will do nothing but blame us over and over.The worse things get, the more he will blame us. And, this particular regime will make sure things are bad. As bad as they can make them in hopes of yet more politic again,its all they value. Even though its 100% his fault the govt. is shutting down, with the media lying for him he stands a very small chance of losing or incurring falling numbers.

I doubt we win this one.

Meanwhile, the real scandals that lead to impeachment and everyone here know which ones they are; Benghazi, Egypt, IRS, nsa,go unchecked,untalked about and as good as forgotten.

The real agenda of following through on the scandals which could lead to impeachment or at the very least a totally weakened Democrat party will now be tossed aside. IMHO, we need to pick our battles.

73 posted on 09/22/2013 6:51:21 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: bray
Remember this all about making health care providers FEDERAL EMPLOYEES, which then makes them DUES PAYING MEMBERS OF THE SEIU!

Here on Free Republic, I do not need to add the next sentence!

74 posted on 09/22/2013 6:53:21 AM PDT by fedupjohn (America...Designed by Geniuses...Now inhabited by Idiots..Palin 2016...)
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To: TomGuy

Actually though I can’t discuss it I got a taste of that yesterday. Seems the GOP-Elites disdain for Tea Pat types is boundless.They better start liking us cause we are here to stay!!They are the endangered species not us!!


75 posted on 09/22/2013 6:54:55 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Diogenesis

Thanks for the summary... I’m stuck in the Sao Paulo airport, and can’t anything on the shows this week!


76 posted on 09/22/2013 6:56:01 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in governm<p>ent.</i><p> If any were, business would hire them f)
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To: rodguy911

The Republicans need to point out that Obama has already postponed the company mandate, issued many waivers...yada, yada.

If this is the so-called law of the land, what right does the President have to implement only those parts that do not displease his donors.

And what about those congressional staffers now exempt from this?

If this is the law of the land, what right does Obama have to only put into effect those parts that please him?

I don’t see many Republicans reporting this truth.

Britt Hume, Mike Wallace....they just roll with the Blue Blood Republicans....the hell with what the MAJORITY of America wants.

Here’s how to explain it....

...a couple of months ago Rand Paul stood at a filibuster in the senate because the administration would NOT admit that they’d never authorize a drone to spy on an American citizen.

Paul had a couple of supporters but mostly he did it himself.

Now Rand Paul did not HAVE to do this. He could have taken no action and no doubt had their been weeks to discuss this action the fine, fine Karl Roves of the world would have dismissed it as silliness...ineffective.

and yet, my lying ears heard Eric Holder, the finest AG this country has ever had, pressured to admit publicly that no, America would not target its citizens via drone without any court order.

Why did this happen?

Because of Paul’s action which caused Americans, NOT the political elite who could care less about us, to stop and scratch heads and wonder, well WHY don’t the administration just say it for God’s sake.

This happen because a Republican legislator DID something.

so now the Republican legislators are doing something and I know what Cruz is doing is what the American people want.

Now we know who belongs solidly to our political class and who does not.

I will not ever support a single one of them out lambasting this action.

THEY NEED TO DO SOMETHING!!

So Cruz does and he’s pilloried endlessly.

they all make me ill.


77 posted on 09/22/2013 6:59:39 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: kabar
Kucinich said that we will continue to have these problems as long as private insurance companies are involved.

He also threw out the BIG LIE that insurers should be "nonprofit".

Sometime back, here in Maine...the sole hosting company position was given to Harvard Pilgrim, a "nonprofit" for the floundering "Dirigo" state-run health plan.

The original parent company was Anthem (a Blue Cross-like entity) who is a regular private insurer, and who originally received the host position by being the only one to bid on it.

It turns out that the "nonprofit" Harvard's operating costs are far higher than the evil taxpaying, profit taking Anthem.

78 posted on 09/22/2013 6:59:49 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering FREAKS!)
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To: rodguy911

Everyone knows that, but they are trying to polish a turd and this is political theater to show they stand for something. If not it is time for a new Party what will.

Our group here have gathered enough signatures to stop Light Rail in Portland and the measure will pass. We stopped a billion dollar boondoggle in a liberal state. That is what standing up can do.


79 posted on 09/22/2013 7:01:57 AM PDT by bray (Coming soon: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
This is a great strategy with an opponent who actually cares about more than his/her popularity numbers.We are not in that situation.

Zero used Syria to get here. People are still dying in Syria they don't care. When this is over, the debate ceiling debate, and people may well suffer hard to tell, zero will go on to amnesty. Whatever death/suffering he leaves in his wake is irrelevant!! It's all about their agenda and how they achieve it. The well being of the country, well being of people doesn't matter to the regime.All that matters is the agenda and their advance to a communist nation.

80 posted on 09/22/2013 7:02:28 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

-— I listened to an audio clip between Mark Levin and Ted Cruz and it appears the game plan is for Boehner to simply send individual funding bills for each dept,possibly one at a time, to Reid and then see what happens.

This method is only good if your opponent actually cares if people suffer or not!

They don’t!!-—

Of course they don’t. Zero doesn’t even care if Rome burns. But the rest of the rats want to save their own skins. And even the media won’t be able to cover for Dingy Harry when he rejects funding for the military.

Besides, what’s the alternative? Surrender?


81 posted on 09/22/2013 7:03:04 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: bray
Rove hates the Tea Party.

I'm beginning to learn that first hand. If its a rrrrrrino war they want good luck! We will win that one every time.

82 posted on 09/22/2013 7:07:45 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Bushbacker1

Can’t wait to see it in a little while here....Wallace has a lot of anger and it usually comes out sideways! He is one angry dude trying to cover his inadequacies. Sarcastic, with that sarcastic smile.


83 posted on 09/22/2013 7:07:55 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Don’t forget, Obozo has had a number of stumbles lately. He is not the darling of DC and not exactly loved by the people. Weld Obamacare to him and the DNC with a very public fight. His mediots will not be able to save them if the American people turn their backs.


84 posted on 09/22/2013 7:07:59 AM PDT by bray (Coming soon: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: bray

Rove flounders these days, like a little fat kid on the playground trying to get back into the game.


85 posted on 09/22/2013 7:08:54 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Wallace: You’re right Senator, people don’t want ObamaCare, but don’t want the government shut down.

Says a whole lot about what the LIV understand and DON'T understand about THEIR Government.
86 posted on 09/22/2013 7:09:12 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Fishtalk

Republicans continue to have the same nagging problem they have had for decades -- they can't seem to find a way to voice their opposition.

Every time one gets on the news media, he/she is shot down by the opposition (media and/or Dems).

The Republicans do not know how to package an effective counter-message.

They will never be able to do that until they decide what they actually do stand for. In the last 2+ decades, they have 'stood' for very little and have gone along to get along. They like 'minority' status -- they don't have to work as hard, they still get a turn at the money troughs, and they get to meet their friends-from-across-the-aisle at the bar for drinks after a hard day of playing the opposition.


87 posted on 09/22/2013 7:10:39 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I would prefer to know why the GOP is so chicken!!!


88 posted on 09/22/2013 7:11:14 AM PDT by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: Cheerio

What if the polls are wrong and people really don’t care if the gummit shuts down? These polls are to scare politicians who follow rather than lead.


89 posted on 09/22/2013 7:11:47 AM PDT by bray (Coming soon: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: bray

CRUZ/PALIN IN 2016 (if we have elections)


90 posted on 09/22/2013 7:12:22 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Fishtalk
NO matter how the debt ceiling winds up Ted Cruz is going to end up as the leader of the party, IMHO when its all over. He's a hero, has guts and is unafraid to take on anyone/ anybody.

While I may not agree with his strategy 100% I will support him 1,000 % should he run for potus.

91 posted on 09/22/2013 7:12:52 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Fishtalk

Good girl!


92 posted on 09/22/2013 7:14:04 AM PDT by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: bray

Cruz on FNS blames a govt. shutdown on Obama and Harry Reid. Answers Chris Wallace regarding other Republicans bashing Cruz. “I am not going to stoop to that level. There is another problem in Wash. DC. career politicians on both sides.” Points out how Obama and Reid are ignoring the will of the American people.


93 posted on 09/22/2013 7:14:48 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: Cheerio
Says a whole lot about what the LIV understand and DON'T understand about THEIR Government.

Yeah, especially if it's true.

94 posted on 09/22/2013 7:15:31 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering FREAKS!)
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To: bray
A distinction without a difference. Brit Hume understood what Kucinich was getting at and mentioned that private insurance companies were not the problem.

Blue Cross and others are not for profit.

Not for profit? It depends on how you define the term.

Prior to the Tax Reform Act of 1986, organizations administering Blue Cross Blue Shield were tax exempt under 501(c)(4) as social welfare plans. However, the Tax Reform Act of 1986 revoked that exemption because the plans sold commercial-type insurance. They became 501(m) organizations, subject to federal taxation but entitled to "special tax benefits" under IRC 833. In 1994, the Blue Cross Blue Shield Association changed to allow its licensees to be for-profit corporations. Some plans are still considered not-for-profit at the state level.

Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder signs measures turning Blue Cross Blue Shield into mutual insurer

And there are plenty of other private insurance companies that are profit making in the conventional sense.

95 posted on 09/22/2013 7:16:20 AM PDT by kabar
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To: mtnwmn

-— I would prefer to know why the GOP is so chicken!!! -—

They’ve sold out for the lifestyle. I think it’s as simple as that.


96 posted on 09/22/2013 7:17:13 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Send him letters....that gets their attention. E-mail, e-mail, e-mail.


97 posted on 09/22/2013 7:17:47 AM PDT by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: bray
Couldn't agree with you more and that's what local activism is all about and few do it better that you.

We had a speaker yesterday who was told that he had to sign on to a $400 million dollar deal for a miami-dade county football stadium that "it was a done deal."

He said no.!

He,a mayor of a small city in Dade,organized 20 other mayors of other cities in Dade and they killed the move to spend 400 million of the citizens money on a stadium. It can be done,buttttttt. Pick your battles.

98 posted on 09/22/2013 7:18:07 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: bray
Why can't Karl just move on to his next profession - we have had enough of this a$$hat. His win/loss ratio is pathetic, why is anyone listening to him and watching that stupid whiteboard? His 15 min are up just like Sindy Sheehag.
99 posted on 09/22/2013 7:18:48 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Fishtalk
If this is the so-called law of the land, what right does the President have to implement only those parts that do not displease his donors. And what about those congressional staffers now exempt from this? If this is the law of the land, what right does Obama have to only put into effect those parts that please him? I don’t see many Republicans reporting this truth.

Good points all. They need to be repeated over and over again.

100 posted on 09/22/2013 7:19:30 AM PDT by kabar
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