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Kenya Westgate mall hostage standoff continues; 59 dead so far, minister says
CBS ^ | September 22, 2013, 6:58 AM | CBS/AP

Posted on 09/22/2013 5:07:45 AM PDT by Pan_Yan

NAIROBI, Kenya The attack by al Qaeda-linked militants at an upscale mall in Nairobi killed at least 59 people and wounded 175, Kenya's interior Cabinet secretary said Sunday.

Multiple barrages of gunfire erupted Sunday morning from inside the building where there is a hostage standoff with Islamic extremists nearly 24 hours after they attacked using grenades and assault rifles.

"The priority is to save as many lives as possible," Joseph Lenku said, reassuring the families of the hostages in the upscale Westgate mall. Kenyan forces have already rescued about 1,000 people, he said.

Lenku said that there are 10 to 15 attackers involved, and Kenyan forces have control of the security cameras inside the mall. Combined military and police forces surrounded the building.

Former Kenyan Prime Minister Raila Odinga told reporters at the mall that he has been told officials couldn't determine the exact number of hostages inside the mall.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaedaafrica; alqaedakenya; alshabaab; hostages; kenya; kenyamallmassacre; mallattack; nairobi; obamaspeople; religionofpieces; ropma; terrorattack; terrorism; threatmatrix
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1 posted on 09/22/2013 5:07:45 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

But it’s a religion of peace! How could this happen!?


2 posted on 09/22/2013 5:09:49 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

Anyone who thinks things like this can’t/won’t happen here is a fool.


3 posted on 09/22/2013 5:16:20 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: FreedomPoster

Odinga’s cousin, “the One”, can’t seem to open his mouth, EVER, and condemn Islamic terrorists. (I seem to remember a lot, thousands, killed after Odinga lost his election?)


4 posted on 09/22/2013 5:17:10 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: FreedomPoster

“But it’s a religion of peace! How could this happen!?”

Actually, peace is a poor translation. It’s the religion of “submission.” The Koran says all will be peaceful when all have “submitted” to Islam. The implication is that there will be no peace until all have “submitted.”


5 posted on 09/22/2013 5:19:13 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Pan_Yan
Anyone who thinks things like this can’t/won’t happen here is a fool.

It would be shrugged off after a few weeks. Obama and the media would assure us that Muslims are our friends endlessly.

6 posted on 09/22/2013 5:19:58 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Pan_Yan

Yes, if it happens here it won’t be called terrorism. Just a random lunatic with an AR-15.

It’s only terrorism if there are at least 19 guys from alqieda (or however the f you spell it).


7 posted on 09/22/2013 5:21:46 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: Pan_Yan

Is this where the money Obama’s brother’s 501C (or whichever designation it is) group has gone to? If so, Obama and Lois Lerner (and all IRS agents) have blood on their hands.


8 posted on 09/22/2013 5:23:02 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: machogirl
I seem to remember a lot, thousands, killed after Odinga lost his election?

He lost. His folks rioted and butchered hundreds of innocent people. They made him Prime Minister as a compromise.

9 posted on 09/22/2013 5:23:07 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

Why attack in Kenya? I didn’t know that was high on their enemy list - it’s not exactly a western nation.


10 posted on 09/22/2013 5:24:42 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: All

Israeli special forces are now on the scene.


11 posted on 09/22/2013 5:26:56 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Pan_Yan

Navy yard - our rescuers ordered to STAND DOWN.

USA more corrupt than Kenya??


12 posted on 09/22/2013 5:27:37 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: jimbo123

Where are you hearing this?


13 posted on 09/22/2013 5:29:10 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: Pan_Yan

CNN Breaking News:

Kenya mall attack: About 30 hostages still inside, sources say

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/22/world/africa/kenya-mall-attack/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

“Nairobi, Kenya (CNN) — Fifty-nine dead. At least 175 injured. About 30 hostages still inside, as well as perhaps a dozen gunmen.”


14 posted on 09/22/2013 5:29:30 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: gaijin
Navy yard - our rescuers ordered to STAND DOWN.

I have not read this - any links? If true, the communist corruption of this regime continues to be exposed.

15 posted on 09/22/2013 5:30:26 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: Pan_Yan

“Al-Shabaab, al Qaeda’s proxy in Somalia, claimed responsibility”

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/22/world/africa/kenya-mall-attack/index.html?hpt=hp_t1


16 posted on 09/22/2013 5:30:33 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Pan_Yan

If only Kenya had reasonable gun controls. This will give President 0bama a new incentive to push for common sense gun laws.


17 posted on 09/22/2013 5:31:00 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Buck Off, Bronco Bama)
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To: JudyinCanada

Al Shabaab (The Youth) is an Al Qaeda offshoot which runs most of southern Somalia. Much of their leadership is from other countries. About two years ago the neighbors got tired of them. Ethiopia invaded from the west and Kenya invaded from the south. Even the UN propped up Somali government managed to make it a few miles out of Mogadishu, with the backing of thousands of foreign troops. Al Shabaab lost lots of territory and men. They haven’t forgotten or forgiven. Even though Kenya and Ethiopia have withdrawn Al Shabaab still holds a massive grudge and has resorted to a suicide terror campaign against Kenya and the government in Mogadishu.


18 posted on 09/22/2013 5:31:25 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Solson

AFP.


19 posted on 09/22/2013 5:32:07 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Pan_Yan

Coming to a Mall near us in the not too distant future.


20 posted on 09/22/2013 5:33:42 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Pan_Yan

This can’t be. Al queda is decimated and on the run. The president said so.


21 posted on 09/22/2013 5:33:51 AM PDT by lurk
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To: newfreep; gaijin

Plenty of articles:

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&authuser=0&q=navy+shooting+stand+down&oq=navy+shooting+stand+down&gs_l=news-cc.3..43j43i53.7060.11021.0.11352.24.5.0.19.19.0.73.316.5.5.0...0.0...1ac.1.C17e4UpB4ks

Report: SWAT told to ‘stand down’ at Navy Yard shooting

http://www.policeone.com/investigations/articles/6455377-Report-SWAT-told-to-stand-down-at-Navy-Yard-shooting/

‘The Capitol Police department has launched a review after allegations surfaced that a supervisor ordered a tactical response team to leave the scene of the shooting that left 12 victims and the gunman dead, rather than assist municipal officers.

“I don’t think it’s a far stretch to say that some lives may have been saved if we were allowed to intervene,” a Capitol Police source told BBC.


22 posted on 09/22/2013 5:33:55 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Pan_Yan

Thanks. I don’t remember Cousin Barry being “concerned”.


23 posted on 09/22/2013 5:36:35 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: JudyinCanada

Somalia borders Kenya on the NE. Kenya sent “peace keeping” troops to Somalia. This attack is supposedly in revenge for that.

The Somalis are the predominant shopkeepers in the more remote areas of the north. They also are the major factor in road transport in those areas. Obviously, these business are closely linked.

There is a good chance of retaliation or disruption.


24 posted on 09/22/2013 5:36:59 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("Life is short. It's even shorter if you suggest going out for pizza on your anniversary" Peter Egan)
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To: newfreep
If true, the communist corruption of this regime continues to be exposed.

I'm afraid it's true and even more concerned that NO ONE does anything except PONTIFICATE.

25 posted on 09/22/2013 5:37:45 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: JohnnyP

No, if it was 19 guys from AQ it was really a false flag by Bush and the Jews.

Van Jones said so.


26 posted on 09/22/2013 5:44:19 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of the Muslim Brotherhood))
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To: Pan_Yan

Is the mall a gun free zone?


27 posted on 09/22/2013 5:48:27 AM PDT by CPOSharky ((The government way) If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Sheep.


28 posted on 09/22/2013 5:50:34 AM PDT by gotribe (Vladimir Putin is MY President)
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To: Pan_Yan
Former Kenyan Prime Minister Raila Odinga

Remember him? Obozo’s cousin. The one who ran for President of Kenya. The one who Obozo campaigned for and supported. The one who's supporters rioted when he lost the election. The one who claimed voter fraud.

Obama and Odinga in 2006:

http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=LL&Date=20110415&Category=NEWS&ArtNo=110419599&Ref=AR&MaxW=445&border=0

HYMAN: Obama’s Kenya ghosts (Odinga supporters)

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/12/obamas-kenya-ghosts/

By mid-February 2008, more than 1,500 Kenyans were killed. Many were slain by machete-armed attackers. More than 500,000 were displaced by the religious strife. Villages lay in ruin. Many of the atrocities were perpetrated by Muslims against Christians.

The violence was led by supporters of Raila Odinga, the opposition leader who lost the Dec. 27, 2007, presidential election by more than 230,000 votes. Odinga supporters began the genocide hours after the final election results were announced Dec. 30.

Obama’s Cousin & Kenyan Prime Minister Raila Odinga Orders Arrest of Gays

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2010/11/obamas-cousin-kenyan-prime-minister-raila-odinga-orders-arrest-of-gays/

Do we now have a pattern?

29 posted on 09/22/2013 5:52:21 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: VideoDoctor

Ditto that - where are the political patriots to defend our Constitution? (somewhat rhetorical)

I continue to believe it will be the People who rise up against our communist oppressors using “any means necessary”.

obamatollah knows that and it’s why they are upping their efforts to take our guns and limit availability of ammunition.


30 posted on 09/22/2013 5:52:55 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: Pan_Yan

It sounds like they targeted a mall used by expats and other non-muslims and started hunting down and killing people. Many mothers and children in pictures

This has to be a suicide mission- what is their goal?


31 posted on 09/22/2013 6:14:31 AM PDT by silverleaf (Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an accordion.)
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To: Pan_Yan

I keep thinking: “Paul Balaart, Mall Cop” a dorky kind of fun movie about a mall cop who blunders on some bad guys scheme. But if something like this ever happened at a mall here and the mall cops on Segways with whistles, walkie talkies and about 50 pounds to the plump size would stop well armed jihadists how?
Freegards
LEX


32 posted on 09/22/2013 6:14:51 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Pan_Yan

If they try it in AZ, they will kill many fewer people before they gain 15# in under a minute and permanently stop shooting.

If they have functioning brains, they will go to deep blue states to commit their atrocities. Unfortunately my children live in two such states. Sigh. I pray a lot.


33 posted on 09/22/2013 6:15:12 AM PDT by Sal (The scandals are real. The "president" is a phony.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Obama should make an emergency trip home and put an end to this nonsense.


34 posted on 09/22/2013 6:19:09 AM PDT by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don’t need to be mystified about a motive.)
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To: silverleaf

Just heard on FoxNews that the mall is owned by Israelis.


35 posted on 09/22/2013 6:20:24 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: JudyinCanada

remember al Qaeda embassy bombng 1998 in Kenya? (also Tanzania)
Over 300 dead

Linked to Egyptian Jihad and Bin Laden operatives organized in central Asia

Not sure of the significance of Kenya, maybe to punish for western presence and security sharing arrangements

1998 was on Clintons watch
He sent cruise missiles up a camel’s butt as punishment
the Clinton team developed the deterrent doctrine of “the unbelievably small military attack”

or “talk loudly and carry a very small stick”, now favored by the obamite civilian military strategerists retreads

as if

we know how that impressed Osama Bin laden

Susan Rice was Clinton’s African security advisor as I recall


36 posted on 09/22/2013 6:23:55 AM PDT by silverleaf (Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an accordion.)
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To: silverleaf
It sounds like they targeted a mall used by expats and other non-muslims and started hunting down and killing people.

Or, as AP (Always Propaganda) original story line read: Gunman shoot indiscriminately at Kenyan mall shoppers. Must cover for the the "peaceniks".

37 posted on 09/22/2013 6:24:42 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: Innovative

if so explains partly choice of target

apparently Israeli embassies have become hard targets, so Israeli (or Jewish)owned malls (and hotels?) could now become soft targets


38 posted on 09/22/2013 6:27:44 AM PDT by silverleaf (Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an accordion.)
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To: JudyinCanada
why attack Kenya

Kenya's elite troops have been trained by the US and Britain. They've been involved in the Somalia civil war.

39 posted on 09/22/2013 6:28:34 AM PDT by grania
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To: Common Sense 101

those who escaped claimed the gunmen specifically said they were looking for non muslims in the mall

You have to read the Brit quasi-tabloid press (Mail Online) to get the real story on these non PC events


40 posted on 09/22/2013 6:30:31 AM PDT by silverleaf (Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an accordion.)
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To: JohnnyP
It’s only terrorism if there are at least 19 guys from alqieda (or however the f you spell it).

Even then they'll call them disaffected yutes.

On 9/11 the terror was established and could not be denied before we knew who did it. Our "extremist" reaction had to be gradually toned down and redefined as we were reeducated to understand that they had legitimate grievances against us as it was America that had forced them into such reprisals.

41 posted on 09/22/2013 6:33:38 AM PDT by Sal (The scandals are real. The "president" is a phony.)
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To: Common Sense 101

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html

American diplomat’s wife and Canadian diplomat among the dead

Terrorists = both men and women
Terrorists were live tweeting as they attacked


42 posted on 09/22/2013 6:34:24 AM PDT by silverleaf (Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an accordion.)
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To: Pan_Yan

It’s a good thing we have gun free zones.


43 posted on 09/22/2013 6:35:33 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Damn. Looks like SOMEbody is not happy Soetoro has decided not to bomb Syria.


44 posted on 09/22/2013 6:42:07 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Pan_Yan

Was Obama’s brother at the Mall?


45 posted on 09/22/2013 6:53:00 AM PDT by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: JudyinCanada
Why attack in Kenya? I didn’t know that was high on their enemy list - it’s not exactly a western nation.

A mall would be a good place for easy target practice on foreigners and infidels.

46 posted on 09/22/2013 6:54:30 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: silverleaf
It sounds like they targeted a mall used by expats and other non-muslims and started hunting down and killing people. Many mothers and children in pictures

This has to be a suicide mission- what is their goal?

The primary goal is to kill non muslims. Secondarily, to sow terror in the populace, so that they will not go to malls, as they are corrupt and vulgar, filled with western filth. Then comes partisan revenge, the JOOOS, some number of virgins, full moon, etc.

47 posted on 09/22/2013 6:59:24 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Pan_Yan

If only we had total gun control in America this would not have happened!!! I really wonder how many of the weapons the bad guys used might have come from the CIA and Omar Obama.


48 posted on 09/22/2013 7:00:40 AM PDT by RetiredArmy ("As in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of Man." Come Quickly LORD Jesus!)
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To: Gen.Blather

?

George W Bush said, in response to 9/11, setting the tone for tolerance and denial, that he knew Islam is a “Religion of Peace”.

?


49 posted on 09/22/2013 7:28:41 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Pan_Yan
Send in these guys.


50 posted on 09/22/2013 7:31:19 AM PDT by dfwgator
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