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Kenya Westgate mall hostage standoff continues; 59 dead so far, minister says
CBS ^ | September 22, 2013, 6:58 AM | CBS/AP

Posted on 09/22/2013 5:07:45 AM PDT by Pan_Yan

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To: Pan_Yan
How awful. I keep waiting for those savages to hit our malls and other soft targets. But then, maybe they know better because we will kill them 10 fold, and I'm not talking about Ft. Hood or the Navy Shipyard.

Once the Islamists hit our malls, stadiums, schools, I personally will dig out my shotgun and go hunting. Got that NSA?

I say arm everyone. Watched CNN yesterday while on the treadmill because Fox doing some infomercial, and all they could say about Kenya and Chicago killings is stop "illegal" guns.

Not a one said anything about the gangsters procuring guns from outside the system. They couldn't understand why crime has gone down according to FBI stats. Citizens have more guns, criminals not as likely to attack - simple equation. However, one black guy did mention it's time we consider the black youth and their fatherless lives and all the video games, violent TV shows, violent rap music.

I don't see a solution to this other than arming everyone, since our culture will not change. However, once the savages know they will ultimately lose, these mass shootings may decrease. But then, we will always have the singular crazies. Again, arm ALL! One or two CCW could make the difference in a mall or elsewhere no matter who the prick is. CONCEALED CARRY FOR ALL! Or at least OPEN CARRY!

51 posted on 09/22/2013 7:39:44 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever!)
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To: Pan_Yan

Isn’t the targeting of civilian populations and taking of hostages a violation of international conventions on warfare? Doesn’t that cross a red line? When do we start bombing? But, more importantly, who do we bomb?


52 posted on 09/22/2013 7:52:55 AM PDT by csn vinnie
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To: A Navy Vet
Forgot to mention that killing the crazies may not be the best deterrent, except in the heat of the moment for saving lives.

Personally, I would like to see public hangings as punishment. Back in the wild west, it had quite an impact on the bad guys. I've read it was a main reason the west was tamed. The LEO's were not politically correct and hung them in the town square.

Officials like Wyatt Earp, Bill Hickock, Bat Masterson, Judge Roy Bean just hung the pricks. Our legal system is too soft. Even when we do execute the bad guys, it's through lethal injection. They put them to sleep with one chemical and then kill them with another. I hope I go out the easily.

Convict and hang 'em high in full view and on national TV! Have a special pork ceremony for the barbaric Islamist savages. Make it hurt as much as possible like they did to Daniel Pearl. Make it slow and painful. Yes, I'm that cruel when it comes to these barbarians who slaughter innocents. Sue me.

53 posted on 09/22/2013 8:22:52 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever!)
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To: csn vinnie
Doesn’t that cross a red line? When do we start bombing? But, more importantly, who do we bomb?

US drone 'shot down by al-Shabaab in Somalia'
29 May 2013

Drone operations over Somalia pose danger to air traffic, U.N. report says
July 24, 2012

U.S. Expands Its Drone War Into Somalia
July 1, 2011

Pentagon Eyeing Drone Shift to Aid Somalia
30 Mar 2010

U.S. Deploys Drones Against Somali Pirates
October 24, 2009

54 posted on 09/22/2013 8:25:53 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan
Automatic weapons and grenades.

What will you bet there will be no soul searching by the western press re: availability of guns & grenades in Kenya in the aftermath?

55 posted on 09/22/2013 8:27:44 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: A Navy Vet

Kill Americans! The phrase I saw in large letters etched on a concrete wall in a mid fl city. They are here....


56 posted on 09/22/2013 8:59:17 AM PDT by seeker41 (take your country back by whatever means necessary)
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To: JudyinCanada
Why attack in Kenya?

Could be a dress rehearsal for one on the west. I hope we are learning all which can be learned from this attack. Have to bet zer0 and his mb associates in the People's White House are cheering for the attackers .... would be best to prep everyone for a just in case. zer0 and his crowd need a false flag. Another year to be on major alert during the holidays.

57 posted on 09/22/2013 9:11:34 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Pan_Yan
As per this report, the Kenyan President's fiancee and and nephew are among the dead.
58 posted on 09/22/2013 9:17:33 AM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Kip Russell

http://wwitv.com/tv_channels/b6519-NTV-Kenya.htm

Kenya TV feed


59 posted on 09/22/2013 9:22:12 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

55 dead, 175 wounded so far - Kenyan President


60 posted on 09/22/2013 9:22:45 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Kip Russell

Terrible! I think it was his nephew and the nephew’s fiancée, btw. I wonder if AQ knew who was going to be there?

They also killed a very respected 70-year-old poet (and former UN diplomat) and several people from various diplomatic missions.


61 posted on 09/22/2013 9:23:07 AM PDT by livius
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To: Kip Russell

his nephew and his nephew’s fiancee


62 posted on 09/22/2013 9:23:09 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: livius

You are right

http://wwitv.com/tv_channels/b6519-NTV-Kenya.htm

Kenyan TV feed


63 posted on 09/22/2013 9:23:38 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: no-to-illegals

They’re attacking Kenya because of Somalia (as well as the ongoing conflicts between Odinga’s Muslims and the non-Muslims in Kenya itself).

They’ve been on a roll today. Taliban-linked terrorists killed some 60 Christians in Pakistan, Sunni terrorists killed about the same number in Iraq, etc. Is it some Islamic High Holy Day? That’s their normal way of celebrating.


64 posted on 09/22/2013 9:26:09 AM PDT by livius
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To: GeronL; livius
his nephew and his nephew’s fiancee

Ah, I misunderstood...thank you.

65 posted on 09/22/2013 9:31:04 AM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Pan_Yan

Kenyan president Uhuru Kenyatta’s statement yesterday on video (along with may pics, some bloody) -

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2428614/Nairobi-mall-Gunmen-massacred-39-Kenyan-shopping-centre-targeted-non-Islamics.html


66 posted on 09/22/2013 10:02:37 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: ScaniaBoy; annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; ...
Running timeline on the Kenya Mall attack. The Israelis have joined the fray. Prayers for the dead and for those still being held.


67 posted on 09/22/2013 10:17:54 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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To: MestaMachine

Lots of links here from yesterday and today, FYI.

These guys are well armed, organized, trained and cocky.


68 posted on 09/22/2013 10:21:31 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: MestaMachine

It might help if I actually posted the link I was talking about, eh? :)

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3069580/posts


69 posted on 09/22/2013 10:27:14 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: lurk
Al queda is decimated and on the run

Which leaves 90% to continue their attacks.

70 posted on 09/22/2013 10:29:09 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Don't assume Shahanshah Obama will allow another election.)
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To: SE Mom

Got it. Thank you much.


71 posted on 09/22/2013 10:35:42 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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To: MestaMachine

Hi Mesta, hope you are well!


72 posted on 09/22/2013 10:55:54 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: machogirl

Thabk you. Trying as hard as I can. FR is a godsend. Keeps my mind engaged.


73 posted on 09/22/2013 11:04:58 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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To: Rappini

Hr lives in a box. Not he would make up to that mall. It wasr than most here.


74 posted on 09/22/2013 11:23:01 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: MestaMachine

Glad to see you posting.
Hope you are better.
t.

Death toll now at 68 in mall assault.


75 posted on 09/22/2013 11:25:53 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Pan_Yan

UPDATE:

Kenya mall attack: Death toll rises to 68

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3069898/posts

“Sixty-eight dead. At least 175 injured. About 30 hostages still inside, as well as perhaps a dozen gunmen. “


76 posted on 09/22/2013 11:29:28 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: tet68

It keeps my mind on other things besides myself. If I didn’t have this, I’d have nothing.


77 posted on 09/22/2013 11:29:33 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Prayers for the people killed and their families.


78 posted on 09/22/2013 11:47:36 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: MestaMachine

FR does do that. Mine would turn to mush if I had no other source of good info and opinions to tap into.


79 posted on 09/22/2013 12:22:36 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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