Skip to comments.U.K. columnist asks if world should intervene to stop U.S. ‘gun violence
Posted on 09/22/2013 9:23:52 AM PDT by Nachum
America is gripped by civil war if the death toll from firearms is any measure, and the international community should intervene if its policies are to be consistent. Thats the speculative premise of a Saturday polemic in The Observer by Henry Porter, a journalist specialising in liberty and civil rights.
Really. How very Orwellian. But then again, for progressives, every day is Opposite Day.
American gun use is out of control, Porters headline generalizes and concludes right from the start.
[W]hat if we no longer thought of this as just a problem for America, he asks, and, instead, viewed it as an international humanitarian crisis -- a quasi civil war, if you like, that calls for outside intervention?
As for the Second Amendment, derived from English common law and our 1689 Bill of Rights?
We dispensed with these rights long ago, but American gun owners cleave to them with the tenacity that previous generations fought to continue slavery, he proudly and insultingly proclaims, astonished that owning a gun is mostly seen as a matter of personal safety, that is, when [its] not about ludicrous macho fantasy.
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I’m behind my blade of grass! Everyone Ready?
Molon labe, bay bee.
Stop U.S. gun violence? Sounds great. If they want to help us fight for unlimited concealed carry in every state, then I certainly welcome their input and assistance.
Come and git em.
They could start with the gun violence in obozo’s hometown.
Who will dis-arm the inner-city tribal parasites, who are the BULK of the problem?
I read the original article a couple of days ago. I think the haughty Brit writer was not really serious, just satirizing our penchant for intervening in other countries’ internal affairs. Never-the-less, the writer is a liberal twit like most writers for the Guardian newspaper.
Actually..that would be a GREAT idea!
have them come to chicago and let these brainiacs help Rahm!!!! Then i will sit back with popcorn to watch how they “solve” our problem.ha.
If this is ever seriously considered — History will repeat itself with blue helmets substituted for red coats. (Either one makes a fine target.)
This clueless limey should marry his boyfriend, Piers Morgan.
As Americans, we don’t need any lectures from Europe, a continent who throughout the centuries has been stained with blood as well as the origin of two world wars.
Why do they not intervene in muslim nations where suicide bombing are far more rampant? Or Somalia/Kenya, or on the “palestinians”?
That’s a big no-no. In the eyes of the left, gun crime always has to be viewed on a macro level, not a micro one. It’s always America’s gun problem...we’re never supposed to actually look at who is behind the majority of it. To do so might lead to uncomfortable conclusions.
Rust never sleeps...
Chicago murders might reach 500
Caracas might reach 4,000
How about send peacekeepers to Venezuela?
To be fair, the article is a bit tongue in cheek, at least regarding sending in the UN.
That said...bring it.
Or right there in DC.
“have them come to chicago and let these brainiacs help Rahm!!!! Then i will sit back with popcorn to watch how they solve our problem.ha.”
In their own countries, they would go into the area and whoever they couldnt jail they would kill.
Communists don’t take any crap.
Each European country thinks they’re the size of the US. You can put three Europe’s in the US with room left over. Couple of case in points - Greece = Alabama; Germany = Montana; France = Texas and so on. The US has a bit over 9 million sq. miles while Europe is a bit over 3 million sq. mi. Our Civil War encompassed an area as large as Europe.
When these pipsqueak countries pipe up about how we should do this and that to be more in-line with them is laughable.
Hmm, right - a Brit complaining about intervention in other countries. Rule Britannia and all that. He isn’t the first. One of his countrymen thought it would be a good idea to seize the guns at Concord and Lexington. For our own good, naturally.
They are writing this crap before the Nairobi mall attack is even resolved. Yeah my owning a handgun is a macho fantasy rather than the myth of self protection. They haven’t got an army big enough to go door to door which is what it would require.
Why do I think that if such a scenario were to play out, the US Government would be allied with the blue helmets?
I have not yet found authoritative documentation for the following, which was posted on FR, but I'm still looking...
GUN CONTROL (2013)
"The U.S. is third in murders throughout the world. If you remove Chicago, Washington, D.C., New Orleans and Detroit then the U.S. is fourth from the bottom. These are four cities with the toughest gun laws in the nation and, of course, these are four cities ruled by Democrats."
Based on what’s happening in Kenya, Zero needs to work for gun control in his own country (Kenya, in case that needed explaining).
We fired our cannon ‘til the barrel melted down.
So we grabbed an alligator and we fought another round.
We filled his head with cannon balls, and powdered his behind
And when we touched the powder off, the gator lost his mind.
Specially if, as Obama has suggested, there are muslims under those blue helmets, and he stands with them.
Doesn't matter how old or how sick I am, if that time ever comes, I can't think of a better incentive to drag myself into the fray!
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
let’s see should the US intervene to stop London’s chopping up of innocent people by muslims violence ?
That is so timely and relevant, if a few thousand of us send that image to the fat slob poofter, David Codrea, I am sure it will leave a mark!
Mr Porter can mind his own business.
It will be of little avail to the people, that the laws are made by men of their own choice, if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood; if they be repealed or revised before they are promulgated, or undergo such incessant changes that no man, who knows what the law is today, can guess what it will be to-morrow.
Dear U.K. Columnist,
We will be very happy for the world to intervene to lower America’s gun violence.
We know we can lower gun violence by 3/4s, so...
just tell us to which countries we should export our minority population.
I don’t see the World intervening in Kenya, Somalia, or Syria. I think they’ve got worse problems than we do.
You’ll have to scroll through the list, and tabulate the results, then go to the FBI’s total crimes list for the U.S. and get the total murders, but it’s better than nothing for a starting point.
You can also do the same for rape, and other violent crimes.
There are separate tables at other (U.N., IIRC) sources that list countries by crime rates.
Besides, how does he propose the UN send in “peacekeepers”? The USAF handles that job for the UN. How will the UN mount a D-Day invasion of the United States?
Come take em limey scum
Worked so well last time
My reply to Henry Porter and The Guardian:
Borrowing your line...
“Come and take them, Henry...
Our forefathers handled people of your ilk several times in the past...King George and his Red Coats, Hitler, Tojo, The USSR, etc...
Don’t make the mistake of trusting the current generation of Americans are not up to the task...Oh, wait...Go ahead and underestimate us...Send in the Blue Helmets...I dare you...
I suggest you lead the first wave of confiscation, personally...I’m locked, loaded and behind my blade of grass...Ready?”
Rather than fight defense over this, we could fight offense.
Let’s take this battle to THEIR streets.
The Brits would love to castrate the United States.
Yeh tell the world to come on over and and try to intervene. That will be the shortest intervention in history. :-)
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!
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