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U.S. Textile Plants Return, With Floors Largely Empty of People
New York Times ^ | SEPTEMBER 19, 2013 | STEPHANIE CLIFFORD

Posted on 09/22/2013 3:04:28 PM PDT by JerseyanExile

The old textile mills here are mostly gone now. Gaffney Manufacturing, National Textiles, Cherokee — clangorous, dusty, productive engines of the Carolinas fabric trade — fell one by one to the forces of globalization.

Just as the Carolinas benefited when manufacturing migrated first from the Cottonopolises of England to the mill towns of New England and then to here, where labor was even cheaper, they suffered in the 1990s when the textile industry mostly left the United States.

It headed to China, India, Mexico — wherever people would spool, spin and sew for a few dollars or less a day. Which is why what is happening at the old Wellstone spinning plant is so remarkable.

Drive out to the interstate, with the big peach-shaped water tower just down the highway, and you’ll find the mill up and running again. Parkdale Mills, the country’s largest buyer of raw cotton, reopened it in 2010.

The [Parkdale] mill here produces 2.5 million pounds of yarn a week with about 140 workers. In 1980, that production level would have required more than 2,000 people.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: manufacturing; textileindustry; textiles
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1 posted on 09/22/2013 3:04:28 PM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: JerseyanExile

Any story involving US textile mills and peach-shaped water towers is a must read...”pinging” for later, and THANKS for posting!


2 posted on 09/22/2013 3:08:29 PM PDT by 88keys (I'm sorry, sir, I don't fit in a handbasket...)
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To: JerseyanExile

What will Humans do when we don’t need each other to do anything?


3 posted on 09/22/2013 3:09:22 PM PDT by omega4179
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To: JerseyanExile

Maybe they’d have more employees on the floor if they offered a higher minimum wage. /S

More seriously, this is what will happen to fast food joints—they’ll become vending-machine-like automated factories with a few skilled maintenance people and bulk food handlers. The customer will exchange credit with a terminal, and the food will be delivered through a slot. It will be the New Automat (if anyone remembers those NYC restaurants of the early 50’s).


4 posted on 09/22/2013 3:09:58 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine
More seriously, this is what will happen to fast food joints—they’ll become vending-machine-like automated factories with a few skilled maintenance people and bulk food handlers. The customer will exchange credit with a terminal, and the food will be delivered through a slot.

< /Idiocracy The Movie >

5 posted on 09/22/2013 3:13:18 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
last thing i ever bought in an Automat was a piece of pie...
6 posted on 09/22/2013 3:16:25 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: omega4179
What will Humans do when we don’t need each other to do anything?

Well, SKYNET will determine that we are no longer needed and will be slated for extermination.

7 posted on 09/22/2013 3:16:38 PM PDT by bayliving
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To: Pearls Before Swine

We could also help the unemployed by imposing a 29.5 hour work week. /s


8 posted on 09/22/2013 3:17:22 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: Chode

The Automat gave the illusion of machine service, although it was really quite labor intensive with the guys behind the glass racing to keep the compartments filled.

The restaurant of the future will be machine intensive, but they’ll try to find some way to give the illusion of personalization.


9 posted on 09/22/2013 3:18:55 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: JerseyanExile
The "Peachoid" in Gaffney, SC:

Holds 1,000,000 gallons of water. Been there since the early 80s.

10 posted on 09/22/2013 3:19:39 PM PDT by upchuck (nobamacare must be stopped before it can live down to our expectations.)
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To: Red Dog #1
We could also help the unemployed by imposing a 29.5 hour work week. /s

Well, it lowers unemployment, because it takes more workers to perform the same amount of economic activity. Of course, the workers are much worse off, because they have to take second jobs to pay for their healthcare, and the companies are worse off, too, because they have so much red tape to manage to avoid big fines.

11 posted on 09/22/2013 3:20:44 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I think I would just rather cook my own food at home.


12 posted on 09/22/2013 3:20:56 PM PDT by virgil
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To: JerseyanExile
This is why we need to have an actual discussion about immigration. The assumption that there will be jobs for everyone in a dynamic economy is kind of naive, even though it has been true for two generations. There can be technologies so disruptive, it can put a lot of people out of work with little chance for further employment or retraining.

While we are advocating legalizing 10-20 million illegals, we are getting ready to implement large scale farm robotics, self driving cars, and new AI software that can displace tens of millions of workers, and it is all going to hit in the same 10-15 years.

13 posted on 09/22/2013 3:21:07 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: JerseyanExile
Look for the union robot label :)
14 posted on 09/22/2013 3:21:43 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz......Nuff said.)
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To: JerseyanExile

Where now are all those who so loudly proclaimed a service economy was the future?


15 posted on 09/22/2013 3:22:08 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Read an article that said MCD is working on adding more automation to their stores. Makes a lot of sense.


16 posted on 09/22/2013 3:22:36 PM PDT by upchuck (nobamacare must be stopped before it can live down to our expectations.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
, and the food will be delivered through a slot. It will be the New Automat (if anyone remembers those NYC restaurants of the early 50’s).

Those survived into the 70s. We went once, VERY overpriced. I got the peanut butter sandwich for 80 cents. And it had only peanut butter, no jam. Not. Whole lot of peanut butter, either. For comparison, a McD/BK burger was 30 cents. My daughter asked why we ate there, my only answer was because it wAs the automat.
17 posted on 09/22/2013 3:23:49 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: a fool in paradise

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW-4LU79qbU


18 posted on 09/22/2013 3:24:22 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: JerseyanExile

It’s funny that the minimum wage for a machine is less than what the marxists require.

lol


19 posted on 09/22/2013 3:25:36 PM PDT by Principled
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To: upchuck

When my family passes it regularly the grandkids say “there’s the big butt”...

seriesly.


20 posted on 09/22/2013 3:26:21 PM PDT by Principled
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To: Vince Ferrer

It kills me to hear of the jobs illegals will have. By filling the jobs needed to keep the illegals here and alive.


21 posted on 09/22/2013 3:27:10 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Inspired by the Quisiana Automat in Berlin, the first automat in the U.S. was opened June 12, 1902, at 818 Chestnut St. in Philadelphia by Horn & Hardart. The automat was brought to New York City in 1912 and gradually became part of popular culture in northern industrial cities.

An automat on a 1904 postcard

22 posted on 09/22/2013 3:27:15 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("Life is short. It's even shorter if you suggest going out for pizza on your anniversary" Peter Egan)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

While automation means less jobs, someone is earning and spending. The trick is for the people who lose jobs to automation to learn to maintain and service the machines or find something else that people still want or even prefer to have done by hand.


23 posted on 09/22/2013 3:30:19 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: upchuck

Grew up about 45 minutes away from it.


24 posted on 09/22/2013 3:31:05 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Pearl, I was making an Obama care dig....:o)
25 posted on 09/22/2013 3:31:34 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: Red Dog #1
Pearl, I was making an Obama care dig....:o)

Aren't we all? Isn't it a large part of why we're here?

26 posted on 09/22/2013 3:32:49 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: a fool in paradise
Already here for some foods:

Robofusion: Singapore's First and Only Robotic Ice Cream Machine

27 posted on 09/22/2013 3:34:08 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: JerseyanExile

Where’s the “Bring Jobs back to America from China” FReeper? He/she needs to read this!


28 posted on 09/22/2013 3:35:03 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: Principled

Give it time. I’m sure they will figure out a way to unionize machines and give them voting rights.


29 posted on 09/22/2013 3:35:48 PM PDT by esoxmagnum (The rats have been trained to pull the D voting lever to get their little food pellet)
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To: 88keys

30 posted on 09/22/2013 3:37:30 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: omega4179
What will Humans do when we don’t need each other to do anything?

Become robot-designing engineers (mechanical, electrical, software) or perish.

Truth be told, politicians will fleece the engineers (producers) to give handouts to the rest who will be bonded in subsistence and indebtedness to perpetually vote for the same politicians.

31 posted on 09/22/2013 3:43:00 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: upchuck

My son recently graduated from Limestone College in Gaffney. He lives in Boiling Springs now ... we drive by the big peach every time we visit. Lovely country.


32 posted on 09/22/2013 3:43:20 PM PDT by RightField (one of the obstreperous citizens insisting on incorrect thinking - C. Krauthamer)
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To: JerseyanExile

Are European fabrics better than American?


33 posted on 09/22/2013 3:46:05 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

When I was stationed in Japan, in the late ‘80s, one could purchase beer from a vending machine :-)


34 posted on 09/22/2013 3:49:16 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Pearls Before Swine
100%
35 posted on 09/22/2013 3:49:34 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Principled

When I was trying to find a pic of it, there were several of the butt view. I decided against that, FR being family oriented and all.


36 posted on 09/22/2013 3:51:13 PM PDT by upchuck (nobamacare must be stopped before it can live down to our expectations.)
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To: Red Dog #1

” We could also help the unemployed by imposing a 29.5 hour work week. /s”

Obama’s on it.


37 posted on 09/22/2013 3:54:31 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If global warming exists I hope it is strong enough to reverse the Big Government snowball)
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To: OldNewYork
Where now are all those who so loudly proclaimed a service economy was the future?

Probably dead.
That moronic idea was at its height in the 60s and early 70s.

Even as a young man, that never made any sense to me.
It's not rocket science to see that everybody providing services for everybody else, with no one devising, designing and making things makes for a hilarious, but short lived society.

38 posted on 09/22/2013 3:55:57 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: JerseyanExile

This is a hoot, in that it really shows the decline of American unions. And you can bet your bottom dollar that there is only going to be textiles in right to work states.

It started with the International Ladies’ Garment Workers’ Union, which merged with the Amalgamated Clothing and Textile Workers Union in 1995, to form UNITE. In 2004, that organization merged with the Hotel Employees and Restaurant Employees union to form UNITE HERE.

In 2005, UNITE HERE withdrew from the AFL-CIO and joined the Change to Win Federation, along with several other unions, including the Teamsters, SEIU and the UFCW.

In May of 2009 union president Bruce Raynor (originally from UNITE) left UNITE HERE, taking with him numerous local unions and between 105,000 and 150,000 members, mostly garment workers. They formed a new Service Employees International Union (SEIU) affiliate called Workers United.

In September of 2009, UNITE HERE announced that it would re-affiliate with the AFL-CIO.


39 posted on 09/22/2013 3:58:43 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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To: rabidralph

still can plus about a hundred other things - a hot coffee out of one of those machines on a cold night is a great comfort. never understood why heated cans didn’t catch on in the us


40 posted on 09/22/2013 4:01:35 PM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Just maybe people will eat at home and/or brown bag lunches.


41 posted on 09/22/2013 4:02:35 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- <<http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: RightField

Limestone is a very good school. I live in Gaffney and work in the textile industry. My company (www.hamrickmills.com) is not mentioned in the article, but it has been around for 100 years. The secret to their success? They never go into debt. As for the peach, it has been the butt of jokes around here for 30 years.


42 posted on 09/22/2013 4:04:44 PM PDT by neal1960 (D m cr ts S ck. Would you like to buy a vowel?)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Yup. Horn and Hardart on 57th and 6th.


43 posted on 09/22/2013 4:11:13 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: upchuck

“Read an article that said MCD is working on adding more automation to their stores. Makes a lot of sense.”

Was at a local “Steak & Shake” restaurant a while back and counted 29 workers in the store. I can’t imagine how they are turning a profit with that many employees. A different employee seated you, waited on you, delivered you food and rung up the tab. I am self employed and can’t even think of having an employee.


44 posted on 09/22/2013 4:25:28 PM PDT by RS_Rider (d)
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To: JerseyanExile
Who will buy the burgers/textiles/whatever?

Robots don't eat burgers, or wear clothes, or live in houses, or drive cars, etc.
Will the entire world be on welfare, supported by our robot masters?

45 posted on 09/22/2013 4:31:15 PM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: omega4179
What will Humans do when we don’t need each other to do anything?

No one can say with certainty, of course, but I remember reading in a dusty old book once that "Idle hands are the Devil's playground." I'm sure nothing good will come of it.

46 posted on 09/22/2013 4:31:44 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Buck Off, Bronco Bama)
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To: a fool in paradise

I watched that movie a couple of hours ago, never seen it before.

Funny!


47 posted on 09/22/2013 4:34:17 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post))
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To: cripplecreek
"The trick is for the people who lose jobs to automation to learn to maintain and service the machines or find something else that people still want or even prefer to have done by hand."

The trick is to get out of the rat race altogether. Find a small piece of land and plant a garden with a few chickens and some sheep or goats. Stop working for others and work for yourself instead.

48 posted on 09/22/2013 4:56:56 PM PDT by semaj
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To: semaj
Stop working for others and work for yourself instead.

Exactly. I'm hoping to sell some photo prints to a local motel undergoing remodeling this coming week. I can afford to do it for half of the cheapest price the owners have found so far. I'll take some samples down to show him the full sized finished product and if he likes them I can have them printed on wrapped canvases ready to hang on the wall in under 3 weeks.

I don't need to get rich, I only need to get by.
49 posted on 09/22/2013 5:08:41 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: upchuck

doesn’t look big enough from that angle


50 posted on 09/22/2013 5:09:07 PM PDT by GeronL
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