Skip to comments.It's Official: Obamacare Will Increase Health Spending By $7,450 For A Typical Family of Four
Posted on 09/23/2013 7:28:59 AM PDT by don-o
What this means for a typical family of four
$621 billion is a pretty eye-glazing number. Most readers will find it easier to think about how this number translates to a typical American familythe very family candidate Obama promised would see $2,500 in annual savings as far as the eye could see. So I have taken the latest year-by-year projections, divided by the projected population and multiplied the result by 4. Simplistic? Maybe, but so too was the Presidents campaign promise. And this approach allows us to see just how badly that promise fell short of the mark. Between 2014 and 2022, the increase in national health spending (which the Medicare actuaries specifically attribute to the law) amounts to $7,450 per family of 4
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“We need to pass this legislation first in order see what’s in your wallet.”
0bama was wrong by$10,000.00.
His kind can’t do math.
By which I mean leftist.
But you can keep your doctor.(in your mind as a fond memory)
What difference does it make?
None, DWTS starts this week! The opiate is applied.
Never have so many been asked to pay so much for the benefit of so few. This is for Obama’s ego, and no amount of other people’s money is too much to pay for keeping it inflated.
The $7450 is over eight years. Still, promised savings have vanished.
As was said so accurately by Joe Wilson to Obama at the SOTU - “YOU LIE!!”
“May I have 621 billion marbles please?”
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$7G plus, per year? They need to be specific for the comfort zone zombies. Or when they wake up it’ll be too late. The crew on ‘tge five’ were yelling for everyone to stop fighting. That once this goes through all that has to be done is for us to get all branches into conservative hands and repeal it. You know surrender and then take over. After the 47% gets happy with the handout, even though sen Cruz reminds us nothing handed out like this has ever been repealed
Moderation is like lukewarmness. Very destructive.
You will be lucky if you see a doctor and if he speaks ENGLISH! Healthcare modeled after Nazi Germany, ya think? Look to Auschwitz as the Liberal RAT model and their death panels with government agents deciding if you live or die. Reminds me of the Gestapo.
The sheeple would have had to be doing copious amounts of drugs to believe that this thing ever WOULD reduce their health care costs.
The beauty of it is the fact that Obama-voters, who in general live off the government (if they don’t “work” for the government then they’re on welfare or some sort of disability) don’t have to pay a thing. Only Conservatives will have to pick up the tab... so all is good in liberal-land.
I am still convinced the fastest way to rid the country of ObamaCare is to make sure it is 100% implemented on schedule. When people lose their jobs, have their hours cut, can’t find work, can’t afford coverage, then get fined on their income taxes, they will revolt like the blue-hairs did with the Medicare Catastrophic Coverage Act.
Rand Paul was on Fox and Friends this morning and this is exactly what he said
We are a family of two, but we certainly don’t have an extra $3500 hanging around for our health care, especially if it’s just for the system’s upkeep and we are not in need of the services.
Even if it’s over several years it is too much.
So do you no longer live in Texas—or are you no longer a redhead?
There is another way to "defund" Obamacare, a tax revolt, unfortunately most of America is not up for this. They are too afraid of losing what they have or not suffering enough........yet.
I just checked the available plans and costs through Covered California (the state exchange that will provide insurance) and found my premiums will DOUBLE come January. I’m self-employed and have to pay for my own insurance. Two million Californians are in the same boat, not covered by an employer.
The sticker shock is going to be intense. Even premiums for young, healthy individuals will rise significantly, as the government is mandating that all sorts of procedures must be provided at little or no cost.
I might have to get a bare-bones plan with a $5,000 deductible in order to afford the premium.
Apparently a lot of them were doing “copious amounts of drugs” because quite a few thought they were going to have “FREE” healthcare! Apparently some of them are just now learning that it will be anything but free.
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The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly.-Abraham Lincoln
This plan is supported by a somewhat unlikely coalition of self-interests, and all have contributed to its creation. Understanding what the specific interests of each of these is will help to understand what the plan is likely to lead to, short term and long term.
1. Ideological liberals with a socialist orientation: This plan does two things that are consistent with the liberal/socialist ideological mind-set; A. Redistribution of wealth, and B. Setting into motion a plan for the eventual total government takeover of medicine.
2. Power/fame/stature seeking politicians: This plan - like any plan that gives more power to the government - increases the power of politicians over the populace, and thus fulfills the needs of the glut of narcissists that now populate public office in the US.
3. A segment of large corporations: There is most definitely a segment of the business community that wants government-run health care. They want to be off the hook, and to rid themselves of employee health plans. There’s no question about this. Yes, they know that a government-run plan would require increased taxes, but they figure these taxes will be passed on to the tax-paying citizenry, and they’ll figure out a way to avoid them when the time comes.
4. Insurance companies: Insurance companies know that increased government involvement in health care is not in their best interests, and they know that the goal is the eventual total government takeover of medicine, but they are looking for a short to medium term outcome that is in their best interest. Eventually, they can turn their business plan toward other insurable markets and get out of health care entirely if it become unprofitable - or if the government takes over health care. Over the short-term, however, Obamacare promises to provide them with a large number of increased participants - many in demographics that are relatively low risk (e.g. the young), and thus could actually increase their near-term enrollments and profits. They also know that to not play ball at all would have been risky for them in the political climate that was in place when Obama took office.
5. Hospital corporations: At least for the short to medium term, hospital corporations are sitting pretty. Hospitals are paid at a higher rate for tests and imaging studies than are private physician-run offices and facilities, and many aspects of ‘medical reform’ (e.g. electronic medical record systems) have made it difficult for private groups to remain in business. Hospital corporations/systems have been buying physician practices - thus eradicating the private practice model, putting all physicians at the mercy of the hospital corporation, eradicating competition, and centralizing control of care to a group of extremely well-paid hospital executives. These people, whose ranks include many who make seven figure salaries, also know that eventually the government piper will come for them, but over the short to medium term they are sitting pretty.
There are others who are part of this ‘coalition’, but this is a decent starting point to think about.
make sure your wonderful elected leftcoast California rep knows this
and comrade, that plan with the high deductible will probably limit your doctor visits (cough cough) and that is good for society, it will ensure you don’t overuse more than your fair lifetime share of the limited (and shrinking by govt mandate) healthcare system that has become a de facto nationalized resource to be rationed by the govt
I don't want ANYBODY enrolled in 0Care. I want it DEFUNDED!!
Call your Republican Senator and tell them to OPPOSE CLOTURE on Harry Reid's plan to FUND 0Care. Only 6 Pubbie votes are needed for cloture to allow a vote to come up...then Harry strikes the Defunding measure. Don't let it come to a vote!!
I doubt it. Two times [2008, 2012] I put my wisdom up the collective wisdom of the voters. And both times was severely spanked. I learned my lesson. That is what the majority that voted said, via their votes, they wanted. Let them enjoy it. And as to the measly $7,450 why not let it be,say, $ 25,000-30,000. If you are going to go, go first class.
Completely agree, if the defund effort fails then repubs should insist on 100% compliance no exemptions. Fair for one fair for all, and that includes all federal employees, including the president.
I agree with you that obamacare must be fully implemented. The strategy the GOP is planning (I believe) is to fight it at first, then give in warning America of the dangers of implementation and allow disastrous financial effects to take place. The electorate will be so fed up with the libs in 2014 a massive takeover of the house and senate will occur and then repeal will be a reality. By then the Fed will stop supporting the stock market which will take a nosedive. We must be patient.
It’s going to be impossible to see a doctor soon...
None, DWTS starts this week! The opiate is applied.
Started last week, but got your point. This week is the most exciting week of TV so Obama could pass communism and it would be met with a yawn from the masses.
seems cheap to me. 155 per month, per person.
That $7,450 is designed to go into someone’s pocket the questions is who’s? The greatest theft in history continues with this new phase.
There was a family featured on Fox’s Special Report this hour.
They are a husband, a wife and two children.
Former cost for a catastrophic policy : $333.00/month
New cost under Obamacare:$ 965.00/month
Increase $ 7,584.00/year.
I can't even do that. He just retired because of Obamacare.