The Republicans want to keep the government open and stop Obamacare.
The Democrats want to shut the government down to keep Obamacare open.
Posted on 09/23/2013 11:35:00 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Let's be absolutely clear here. If the Democrat controlled Senate rejects the Continuing Resolution passed by the House that completely funds the entire government except for President Obama's unconstitutional, nation-wrecking, job-killing, pet project, the trainwreck also known as "Obamacare," then it is they (Obama and the Democrat Senate) who are clearly ordering the totally radical and unnecessary shutdown the of the federal government.
The bill passed by the House fully funds all legitimate government functions. The people do not want federal government controlling their healthcare and they are speaking through their elected representatives.
It would be prudent for the President and the Senate to abide by the will of the people rather than threatening them. Pass the bill that funds the government!
And stop lying. Do not blame any shutdown on the Republicans in the House. They are doing the will of the people. When you blame them for your own obstinate acts, you are lying and you are punishing the people.
And when you claim our military won't be paid, you are lying. When you say social security checks won't go out you are lying. Past experience proves that all essential government services will continue. The main thing that will happen if the Democrat President and the Democrat Senate orders the radical shutdown of the government is hundreds of thousand of non-essential government employees will be laid off. Big deal. Life will go on.
BTTT
Absolutely correct.
If Barry wants to throw a tantrum and “shut down the gubmint” because his hated pet CommieCare program doesn’t get funded, then he owns the “shut down.”
Even with mealy-mouthed leaders like Boehner and McConnell, they should be able to point the finger at the Idiot in Chief and explain this.
Amen!
Well said!!!!
The Republicans want to keep the government open and stop Obamacare.
The Democrats want to shut the government down to keep Obamacare open.
Eloquently, accurately, and presciently presented thesis.
The essential truth:
The Republicans want to keep the government open and stop Obamacare.
The Democrats want to shut the government down to keep Obamacare open.
Bears repeating.
How true. Rats lie for one reason. The MSM hides their lies.
It is time we start holding the MSM accountable. If they did their job, we never would have had Obama.
Obamacare was passed against the will of the people and without any Republican votes. The American people elected a Republican House of Representatives because they wanted to be rid of this horrid intrusion on their lives and imposition on the economy. We intend to follow the instructions of those who put us here.
FIGHT!
All sane Americans know this is the truth, Jim. But the media belongs to the anarchist Left, and we all know how this will be spun.
The ACA was passed with not one Republican vote, If I remember correctly. ..and now they pee themselves at the thought of defunding it.
Sample Call Script
Hi, this is ________ ________ and I'm calling to urge Senator ________ to OPPOSE "cloture" on the continuing resolution (CR) to stop Harry Reid's trick plan to fund Obamacare with only 50 votes.
Is Senator ________ going to vote against cloture? ...
I strongly oppose Obamacare and I hope the senator will stand with Mike Lee and Ted Cruz and oppose cloture so the Democrats can't fund it. We must stop the implementation of Obamacare and there are millions of Americans counting on the senator to stand strong.
Will you please pass my message on to the senator? ...
Background Information
The House passed a bipartisan bill to prevent a government shutdown and to defund Obamacare so it won't be implemented this year. This House legislation represents the will of the American people and the Senate should approve it. Unfortunately, Harry Reid and the Democrats plan to add Obamacare funding back into the bill using a procedural trick that allows them to fund Obamacare with only 50 votes.
Senate Republicans can stop Harry Reid's plan to fund Obamacare by defeating cloture – a vote on the process that requires 60 votes. If Republicans defeat cloture, they can protect the House bill that defunds Obamacare and pressure Democrats to adopt it.
However, if Republicans vote for cloture, Obamacare will be funded and millions of Americans will be forced into a government program that is unaffordable, unworkable, and unfair.
A vote for cloture is a vote to fund Obamacare.
Don't let Senate Republicans tell you the vote on cloture is a vote to "defund" Obamacare. It is not. Cloture approves the debate process, not the bill being debated.<.b> If cloture were truly a vote to "defund" Obamacare, the Democrats would not be supporting it.
Senate Republican Whip List
Tell the Republicans to OPPOSE cloture to stop Harry Reid's plan to fund Obamacare. Tell them a vote for cloture is a vote to fund Obamacare.
A roster of Republican Senators AND contact info can be found here. Scroll down page.
I agree with your assessment. The media, including Fox, is going with the President’s take on this, ignoring that the defunding of ObaynerobertsCare is separated from the CR for operating the g’ment.
But reading several threads here on FR over the weekend, it’s apparent that many of our FRiends have swallowed the party line again.
Only the alternate media will report this truth.
“stop lying”
Ha! That’s a good one.
The Dems’ “narrative” has been, and will continue to be, that the raaaacist Tea Party (and GOP) wants to shut down the government in order to thwart Obama. With the MSM marching in lock-step beside them, why would they stop lying?
Exactly...Lying comes easy to leftists, especially 0bummer and the Rat leadership.
^5!
Listening to Cspan right now and even the Republicans speaking are repeating the lie of the military not getting paid during a shutdown. That’s a total lie. The congress will pass emergency bills funding the absolutely essential services and the president will sign them. They wouldn’t dare not to.
They’re all repeating these lies in an attempt to frighten the people and each other. This is no way for adults to govern a free nation.
Where are the statesmen?
“adults” are not governing this nation
He’s just worried because he won’t be able to golf or go on vacation since there won’t be any money for him. ;-)
It’s about time folks started making this point. I’ve been saying this since the first moment this year libs started accusing the GOP of “wanting to shut down the government.”
I’m starting to see some media traction on this point as well. FINALLY!
Obamacare cannot be funded without a House vote. That’s all that needs to be known.
I am spreading this around the blogs EVERY day,,,went over to HuffPo earlier,,kinda fun. Yahoo, POLITICO, Daily Beast,everywhere!!!! all the alpha networks,,we have to keep beating this drum!
I wouldn’t trust Boehner and McConnell — they’ll instantly blame Ted Cruz and announce that they stand with Obama.
If only all the capitalists gave their money to Obama, maybe the fierce leader then would be motivated to take care of us. Come on, we are stopping his love when defunding Obamacare (sarc off)
And stop lying. Do not blame any shutdown on the Republicans in the House. They are doing the will of the people. When you blame them for your own obstinate acts, you are lying and you are punishing the people.
It's the primary strategy of the bald-faced-lying liberals - "if you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the 'truth'." They are disciples of Alinsky and will use these tactics at all cost.
That being said, spot on post Mr Robinson!
+1 but, the so called shut down is a canard anyway.
What would be shut down that really matters?
We are learning to do without all kinds of services, including access tours of our White Hut.
I don’t think they are going to shutter anything that makes a difference anyway.
I did have dinner with a lovely woman from Virginia couple of months ago. She is a contractor to the government and was losing something like 4 days a months.
Felt bad for her on the one hand and on the other, looking at the bigger picture, couldn’t help but think “Terrible for her and the country knocked a few Benjamin’s off the debt”.
You’re spot on, again.
True, but with the propaganda machine known as the media churning out anti-GOP rhetoric, it will be impossible to convince the pinhead public that 0bama and the dems are to blame.
You mean the Fuhrer and his RAT SS?
Exactly! From National Journal:
In fact, a government shutdown is quite different from the way it is commonly viewed by the public. Although the lapse in discretionary budget authority would likely impact some day-to-day routine operations of the government—such as the National Park Service—essential and necessary functions of the government and ones that have relevant health-based concerns would continue. Social Security and Medicare would likely continue in large part because they are mandatory programs;A government shutdown seems about as scary as the infamous Sequester.
Social security is not a legitimate government function
Why are we funding it?
Shutting down the Federal government is a good idea under any circumstance. The Federal government is an organ of the rinos and the Dims.
The Federal government is a truly repressive totalitarian organization that oppresses producers so a shut down would be a relief, a holiday for most of us.
Starve the beast.
You don’t seriously think the Rats are going to stop lying? And the LIV will ever stop believing the lies?
This is frustrating as all get-out Jim!
Prayers up for healing on the leg. The Lord is always kind and merciful. He hears our petitions.
Sorry Jim, no matter what you say, how accurate and truthful you are, there will be at least 51% of the public blaming Republicans. Take for instance this exchange I had with a progressive/democrat/liberal/socialist...
Me: who you gonna blame if the government runs out of money October 1?
She: the Republicans of course.
Me: why? They don't control the presidency or the Senate. They have very little power.
She: doesn't matter...
And you know as well as I do that the state controlled media will reinforce that meme 24/7. From services that will continue (SS and VA) to services that will be interrupted (EBT and Sec 8), doesn't matter. Matter of fact, Ted Cruz will get the blame, and the MSM will make that ridiculous ascertain stick.
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Take care of yourself.
5.56mm
Exactly. They can have one or the other but not both. I say we make them choose.
I couldn’t agree more....
But the GOP MUST get out in front of this issue and beat the enemy to the punch with the messaging as to how a shutdown came to pass. The dems are going to press the narrative it’s all the Repubs’ fault.
I’ll summarize it a few words: deathcare is a nation killer. And if we fail, the next steps are not going to be parsing words over the implementation, it’s going to be people petitioning their state legislatures for a divorce.
I am opposed to secession. But that’s where this is going whether I like it or not. Choose carefully, senators.
Obamacare was funded when Pelosi and Reid forced it through Congress. There is no further vote necessary to fund it. The Continuing Resolution does not fund Obamacare. It can defund it, but it doesn't fund it.
I don't understand how you could possibly call the Wee Wee petulant!
Heard a local attorney yesterday say that "a minority like the Tea Party" shouldn't be able to shut the government down. Dems are throwing everything they have at the spin that essential government functions like food stamps and social security checks are threatened.
That is the truth. And here is some more truth: deathcare is a nation killer.
I’m opposed to secession. But should we fail in getting rid of deathcare, that’s where this is going. And if one large enough state leaves, many others will follow. They’ll essentially have to: just take a moment and do the electoral math.
I have to wonder if that’s the underlying objective: the breakup of the US?
BTTT
You have hit the nail on the head. ANY government shutdown will be THEIR fault.
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