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Any government shutdown would be ordered by the petulant President Obama and Senate Democrats
Sept 23, 2013 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 09/23/2013 11:35:00 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Let's be absolutely clear here. If the Democrat controlled Senate rejects the Continuing Resolution passed by the House that completely funds the entire government except for President Obama's unconstitutional, nation-wrecking, job-killing, pet project, the trainwreck also known as "Obamacare," then it is they (Obama and the Democrat Senate) who are clearly ordering the totally radical and unnecessary shutdown the of the federal government.

The bill passed by the House fully funds all legitimate government functions. The people do not want federal government controlling their healthcare and they are speaking through their elected representatives.

It would be prudent for the President and the Senate to abide by the will of the people rather than threatening them. Pass the bill that funds the government!

And stop lying. Do not blame any shutdown on the Republicans in the House. They are doing the will of the people. When you blame them for your own obstinate acts, you are lying and you are punishing the people.

And when you claim our military won't be paid, you are lying. When you say social security checks won't go out you are lying. Past experience proves that all essential government services will continue. The main thing that will happen if the Democrat President and the Democrat Senate orders the radical shutdown of the government is hundreds of thousand of non-essential government employees will be laid off. Big deal. Life will go on.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; FReeper Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: defund; democrats; freepered; obama; obamacare; obamacaves; shutdown
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1 posted on 09/23/2013 11:35:00 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

BTTT


2 posted on 09/23/2013 11:37:11 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Jim Robinson

Absolutely correct.

If Barry wants to throw a tantrum and “shut down the gubmint” because his hated pet CommieCare program doesn’t get funded, then he owns the “shut down.”

Even with mealy-mouthed leaders like Boehner and McConnell, they should be able to point the finger at the Idiot in Chief and explain this.


3 posted on 09/23/2013 11:39:36 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Amen!


4 posted on 09/23/2013 11:39:44 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: Jim Robinson

Well said!!!!


5 posted on 09/23/2013 11:39:45 AM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: Jim Robinson
The essential truth:

The Republicans want to keep the government open and stop Obamacare.

The Democrats want to shut the government down to keep Obamacare open.


6 posted on 09/23/2013 11:40:54 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Jim Robinson

Eloquently, accurately, and presciently presented thesis.


7 posted on 09/23/2013 11:43:10 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: nathanbedford

The essential truth:
The Republicans want to keep the government open and stop Obamacare.

The Democrats want to shut the government down to keep Obamacare open.


Bears repeating.


8 posted on 09/23/2013 11:43:27 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Government: Slimy used car salesmen writing laws forcing you to buy their cars)
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To: thackney

How true. Rats lie for one reason. The MSM hides their lies.

It is time we start holding the MSM accountable. If they did their job, we never would have had Obama.


9 posted on 09/23/2013 11:44:17 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Make today a great day. Insult a liberal.)
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To: Jim Robinson
The Republican mantra should be simple:

Obamacare was passed against the will of the people and without any Republican votes. The American people elected a Republican House of Representatives because they wanted to be rid of this horrid intrusion on their lives and imposition on the economy. We intend to follow the instructions of those who put us here.

10 posted on 09/23/2013 11:44:32 AM PDT by Defiant (A rainbow curtain has descended upon the west, from Munich to San Francisco.)
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To: Jim Robinson

You have to open it to find out whats in it!!

11 posted on 09/23/2013 11:46:30 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: Jim Robinson
Yup, that's the deal, Republicans need to get off their asses and start preaching it 24/7.
And I don't mean just Lee and Cruz.

FIGHT!

12 posted on 09/23/2013 11:48:22 AM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz......Nuff said.)
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To: Jim Robinson

All sane Americans know this is the truth, Jim. But the media belongs to the anarchist Left, and we all know how this will be spun.


13 posted on 09/23/2013 11:48:40 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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The Senate RINO's want to just roll over and create a socialized health care system, pure & simple.

The ACA was passed with not one Republican vote, If I remember correctly. ..and now they pee themselves at the thought of defunding it.

14 posted on 09/23/2013 11:49:16 AM PDT by TexasCajun (Creepy-Ass Cracka -- Don't Call Me Cracker)
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To: TexasCajun; Jim Robinson; All
Updated info from Senate Conservatives...

Grassroots Phone Calls to Senate Republicans


Current as of 09/23/2013 at 02:37PM

Sample Call Script

Hi, this is ________ ________ and I'm calling to urge Senator ________ to OPPOSE "cloture" on the continuing resolution (CR) to stop Harry Reid's trick plan to fund Obamacare with only 50 votes.

Is Senator ________ going to vote against cloture? ...

I strongly oppose Obamacare and I hope the senator will stand with Mike Lee and Ted Cruz and oppose cloture so the Democrats can't fund it. We must stop the implementation of Obamacare and there are millions of Americans counting on the senator to stand strong.

Will you please pass my message on to the senator? ...

Background Information
The House passed a bipartisan bill to prevent a government shutdown and to defund Obamacare so it won't be implemented this year. This House legislation represents the will of the American people and the Senate should approve it. Unfortunately, Harry Reid and the Democrats plan to add Obamacare funding back into the bill using a procedural trick that allows them to fund Obamacare with only 50 votes.

Senate Republicans can stop Harry Reid's plan to fund Obamacare by defeating cloture – a vote on the process that requires 60 votes. If Republicans defeat cloture, they can protect the House bill that defunds Obamacare and pressure Democrats to adopt it.

However, if Republicans vote for cloture, Obamacare will be funded and millions of Americans will be forced into a government program that is unaffordable, unworkable, and unfair.

A vote for cloture is a vote to fund Obamacare.

Don't let Senate Republicans tell you the vote on cloture is a vote to "defund" Obamacare. It is not. Cloture approves the debate process, not the bill being debated.<.b> If cloture were truly a vote to "defund" Obamacare, the Democrats would not be supporting it.

Senate Republican Whip List

Tell the Republicans to OPPOSE cloture to stop Harry Reid's plan to fund Obamacare. Tell them a vote for cloture is a vote to fund Obamacare.

A roster of Republican Senators AND contact info can be found here. Scroll down page.

15 posted on 09/23/2013 11:50:08 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I agree with your assessment. The media, including Fox, is going with the President’s take on this, ignoring that the defunding of ObaynerobertsCare is separated from the CR for operating the g’ment.

But reading several threads here on FR over the weekend, it’s apparent that many of our FRiends have swallowed the party line again.


16 posted on 09/23/2013 11:50:30 AM PDT by Resettozero
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17 posted on 09/23/2013 11:50:39 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Jim Robinson

Only the alternate media will report this truth.


18 posted on 09/23/2013 11:51:04 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statemet of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Jim Robinson

“stop lying”

Ha! That’s a good one.

The Dems’ “narrative” has been, and will continue to be, that the raaaacist Tea Party (and GOP) wants to shut down the government in order to thwart Obama. With the MSM marching in lock-step beside them, why would they stop lying?


19 posted on 09/23/2013 11:52:09 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Jim Robinson

Exactly...Lying comes easy to leftists, especially 0bummer and the Rat leadership.


20 posted on 09/23/2013 11:52:55 AM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: Jim Robinson

^5!


21 posted on 09/23/2013 11:53:42 AM PDT by glock rocks (No comment.)
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To: FReepers; everyone
Senators of the 113th Congress

22 posted on 09/23/2013 11:53:48 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: BenLurkin

Listening to Cspan right now and even the Republicans speaking are repeating the lie of the military not getting paid during a shutdown. That’s a total lie. The congress will pass emergency bills funding the absolutely essential services and the president will sign them. They wouldn’t dare not to.

They’re all repeating these lies in an attempt to frighten the people and each other. This is no way for adults to govern a free nation.

Where are the statesmen?


23 posted on 09/23/2013 11:56:41 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

“adults” are not governing this nation


24 posted on 09/23/2013 11:58:18 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Jim Robinson

He’s just worried because he won’t be able to golf or go on vacation since there won’t be any money for him. ;-)


25 posted on 09/23/2013 11:59:36 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Jim Robinson

It’s about time folks started making this point. I’ve been saying this since the first moment this year libs started accusing the GOP of “wanting to shut down the government.”

I’m starting to see some media traction on this point as well. FINALLY!


26 posted on 09/23/2013 12:00:58 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Waiting for next tagline.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Obamacare cannot be funded without a House vote. That’s all that needs to be known.


27 posted on 09/23/2013 12:05:13 PM PDT by AU72
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To: Jim Robinson

I am spreading this around the blogs EVERY day,,,went over to HuffPo earlier,,kinda fun. Yahoo, POLITICO, Daily Beast,everywhere!!!! all the alpha networks,,we have to keep beating this drum!


28 posted on 09/23/2013 12:05:13 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: SharpRightTurn

I wouldn’t trust Boehner and McConnell — they’ll instantly blame Ted Cruz and announce that they stand with Obama.


29 posted on 09/23/2013 12:05:30 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: thackney

If only all the capitalists gave their money to Obama, maybe the fierce leader then would be motivated to take care of us. Come on, we are stopping his love when defunding Obamacare (sarc off)


30 posted on 09/23/2013 12:07:32 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: Jim Robinson

And stop lying. Do not blame any shutdown on the Republicans in the House. They are doing the will of the people. When you blame them for your own obstinate acts, you are lying and you are punishing the people.


It's the primary strategy of the bald-faced-lying liberals - "if you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the 'truth'." They are disciples of Alinsky and will use these tactics at all cost.

That being said, spot on post Mr Robinson!

31 posted on 09/23/2013 12:10:53 PM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Jim Robinson

+1 but, the so called shut down is a canard anyway.

What would be shut down that really matters?

We are learning to do without all kinds of services, including access tours of our White Hut.

I don’t think they are going to shutter anything that makes a difference anyway.

I did have dinner with a lovely woman from Virginia couple of months ago. She is a contractor to the government and was losing something like 4 days a months.

Felt bad for her on the one hand and on the other, looking at the bigger picture, couldn’t help but think “Terrible for her and the country knocked a few Benjamin’s off the debt”.


32 posted on 09/23/2013 12:13:09 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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Jim. I'm utterly amazed that the Republicans can't even find the stomach to say the same simple thing....

"Any government shutdown would be ordered by the petulant President Obama and Senate Democrats"


33 posted on 09/23/2013 12:15:31 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: Jim Robinson

You’re spot on, again.


34 posted on 09/23/2013 12:17:50 PM PDT by Gator113 (The mighty Bear ate the cowardly rat. Obama must resign.)
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To: Jim Robinson
(Obama and the Democrat Senate) who are clearly ordering the totally radical and unnecessary shutdown the of the federal government.

True, but with the propaganda machine known as the media churning out anti-GOP rhetoric, it will be impossible to convince the pinhead public that 0bama and the dems are to blame.

35 posted on 09/23/2013 12:19:17 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Muzzie killing muzzie what's the downside and who am I to stop them ?)
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To: Jim Robinson

You mean the Fuhrer and his RAT SS?


36 posted on 09/23/2013 12:21:22 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Jim Robinson

37 posted on 09/23/2013 12:24:42 PM PDT by spokeshave (While Zero plays silly card games like Spades - Putin plays for keeps.)
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To: Jim Robinson
And when you claim our military won't be paid, you are lying. When you say social security checks won't go out you are lying. Past experience proves that all essential government services will continue. The main thing that will happen if the Democrat President and the Democrat Senate orders the radical shutdown of the government is hundreds of thousand of non-essential government employees will be laid off. Big deal. Life will go on.

Exactly! From National Journal:

In fact, a government shutdown is quite different from the way it is commonly viewed by the public. Although the lapse in discretionary budget authority would likely impact some day-to-day routine operations of the government—such as the National Park Service—essential and necessary functions of the government and ones that have relevant health-based concerns would continue. Social Security and Medicare would likely continue in large part because they are mandatory programs;
A government shutdown seems about as scary as the infamous Sequester.
38 posted on 09/23/2013 12:26:22 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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Social security is not a legitimate government function

Why are we funding it?


39 posted on 09/23/2013 12:27:17 PM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: Jim Robinson

Shutting down the Federal government is a good idea under any circumstance. The Federal government is an organ of the rinos and the Dims.
The Federal government is a truly repressive totalitarian organization that oppresses producers so a shut down would be a relief, a holiday for most of us.
Starve the beast.


40 posted on 09/23/2013 12:27:38 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: Jim Robinson

You don’t seriously think the Rats are going to stop lying? And the LIV will ever stop believing the lies?

This is frustrating as all get-out Jim!


41 posted on 09/23/2013 12:27:55 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Good afternoon. I hope you are doing well.

Prayers up for healing on the leg. The Lord is always kind and merciful. He hears our petitions.

Sorry Jim, no matter what you say, how accurate and truthful you are, there will be at least 51% of the public blaming Republicans. Take for instance this exchange I had with a progressive/democrat/liberal/socialist...

Me: who you gonna blame if the government runs out of money October 1?
She: the Republicans of course.
Me: why? They don't control the presidency or the Senate. They have very little power.
She: doesn't matter...

And you know as well as I do that the state controlled media will reinforce that meme 24/7. From services that will continue (SS and VA) to services that will be interrupted (EBT and Sec 8), doesn't matter. Matter of fact, Ted Cruz will get the blame, and the MSM will make that ridiculous ascertain stick.

< /negativity>

Take care of yourself.

5.56mm

42 posted on 09/23/2013 12:28:03 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: nathanbedford
The Democrats want to shut the government down to keep Obamacare open.

Exactly. They can have one or the other but not both. I say we make them choose.

43 posted on 09/23/2013 12:29:26 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Jim Robinson

I couldn’t agree more....

But the GOP MUST get out in front of this issue and beat the enemy to the punch with the messaging as to how a shutdown came to pass. The dems are going to press the narrative it’s all the Repubs’ fault.


44 posted on 09/23/2013 12:30:21 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’ll summarize it a few words: deathcare is a nation killer. And if we fail, the next steps are not going to be parsing words over the implementation, it’s going to be people petitioning their state legislatures for a divorce.

I am opposed to secession. But that’s where this is going whether I like it or not. Choose carefully, senators.


45 posted on 09/23/2013 12:34:11 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: AU72
Obamacare cannot be funded without a House vote. That’s all that needs to be known.

Obamacare was funded when Pelosi and Reid forced it through Congress. There is no further vote necessary to fund it. The Continuing Resolution does not fund Obamacare. It can defund it, but it doesn't fund it.

46 posted on 09/23/2013 12:34:18 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Jim Robinson

I don't understand how you could possibly call the Wee Wee petulant!

47 posted on 09/23/2013 12:37:18 PM PDT by Zakeet (Democrats haven't destroyed your freedoms ... you can still visit them at the Smithsonian)
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To: Jim Robinson
The bill passed by the House fully funds all legitimate government functions.

Heard a local attorney yesterday say that "a minority like the Tea Party" shouldn't be able to shut the government down. Dems are throwing everything they have at the spin that essential government functions like food stamps and social security checks are threatened.

48 posted on 09/23/2013 12:40:43 PM PDT by alrea
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To: nathanbedford

That is the truth. And here is some more truth: deathcare is a nation killer.

I’m opposed to secession. But should we fail in getting rid of deathcare, that’s where this is going. And if one large enough state leaves, many others will follow. They’ll essentially have to: just take a moment and do the electoral math.

I have to wonder if that’s the underlying objective: the breakup of the US?


49 posted on 09/23/2013 12:42:03 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: Jim Robinson

BTTT

You have hit the nail on the head. ANY government shutdown will be THEIR fault.


50 posted on 09/23/2013 12:49:22 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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