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The Palin Tell (She admits the ObamaCare defunding effort is futile)
WSJ ^ | 09/23/13 | James Taranto

Posted on 09/23/2013 5:14:16 PM PDT by PAR

There is a problem, and it has 100 members, two from each state.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: defundobamacare; obamacare; palin; primarytherinos; shutdown
Taranto nails it. Everyone here should read his entire article. His column is always free.
1 posted on 09/23/2013 5:14:16 PM PDT by PAR
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To: PAR

B/S. If the house doesn’t appropriate the money, they don’t get it. The house has the final say in the matter per the US Constitution. The Senate must approve appropriations, but they cannot make them.


2 posted on 09/23/2013 5:16:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: PAR

Bump for later.


3 posted on 09/23/2013 5:20:45 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m with you. The House allocates the funds and they should never fund ocare. If the gov’t stayed shutdown until the 2014 election we could save a lot of money. We have bo in a corner with the budget and debt limit but do the repubs have the courage to win.


4 posted on 09/23/2013 5:29:14 PM PDT by DCmarcher-976453
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To: PAR

Nah, his “Palin tell” is weak.

His contortions and struggles to avoid the heart of his argument: “Republicans Senators will fold and then the House will too” are blatant.

But he never addresses what happens if the Republican Senators don’t fold which, ahem, is the strategy.


5 posted on 09/23/2013 5:30:51 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: PAR; All

A meandering piece of tendentious offal with gratuitous, Elites pleasing swipes at Sarah. Taranto dropped quite far in my esteem with this rubbish.


6 posted on 09/23/2013 5:32:11 PM PDT by pluvmantelo (We can't expect to get anywhere unless we resort to terrorism-Lenin)
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To: PAR

How about this: it’s a stragegery to delay Obamacare by a year. If this happens, it will be front-and-center in the 2014 mid-term elections, and if Democrats lose control of the House, the delay becomes permanent.

I’m thinking it’s like going for a tie so the game goes into overtime rather than a long-shot to win it right now.


7 posted on 09/23/2013 5:34:12 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: PAR
Written with a crayon on toilet paper.

Republicans are supposed to be the opposing party and they control the purse strings.

8 posted on 09/23/2013 5:35:49 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: PAR

I support total opposition to Obamacare with no caving in and no debt ceiling increase.

Let Obama play the dictator role to force through what he wishes, but our representatives should not be party to the economic destruction of the country through Obamacare and higher debt ceilings.


9 posted on 09/23/2013 5:36:29 PM PDT by Nextrush (BALANCED BUDGET NOW, PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN,CHANGE I BELIEVE IN)
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To: PAR

So roll over and expect everyone one to vote for you in 2014?


10 posted on 09/23/2013 5:38:56 PM PDT by Sybeck1
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To: Jim Robinson

Rebellion is brewing!


11 posted on 09/23/2013 5:38:57 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: PAR
If the end game were ObamaCare or Not ObamaCare then this essay might make sense. The essayist seems to suggest that we should go along with US Grant and let ObamaCare go into law as soon as possible. That way it will be seen as the failure that it is and repealed.

Unfortunately ObamaCare is like Don't Ask Don't Tell. It is an interim placeholder for another goal. Don't Ask Don't Tell was always going to lead eventually to gays openly serving in the military. Similarly ObamCare has always been about single payer.

If ObamaCare is allowed to pass and then found wanting, it will not be repealed and replaced by private insurance. Instead, it will be repealed or altered into single payer.

Ted Cruz's action are one last (most likely futile) gasp to prevent the complete government takeover of the medical insurance industry.

He may not be successful in his effort, but it's nice to see that someone is willing to fight for what's right rather than do some deal that only helps the Republicans in the short run and will hurt all Americans in the long run.

12 posted on 09/23/2013 5:43:56 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: PAR
We had a sequester and they spent more money than ever.

A "government shutdown" would be the same.

Bring it on!

13 posted on 09/23/2013 5:45:15 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When your policy is to rob Peter to pay Paul, you can count on enthusiastic support from Paul.)
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To: PAR; All

Here’s Sarah Palin’s words, not Taranto’s...

The U.S. Senate has some arcane procedural rules, and as ordinary Americans our eyes glaze over trying to decipher them. But it’s important for us to understand that Sen. Ted Cruz’s efforts to defund Obamacare are worthwhile and doable.

We shouldn’t preemptively surrender the fight to those who rammed through this outrageously burdensome and unaffordable ploy for government control of health care even though some are trying to convince us that the fight is futile. Just because a fight isn’t easy, doesn’t mean it’s not worth fighting.

This defund movement boils down to a very simple request. As Andrew McCarthy recently pointed out: “Obama himself has already unilaterally and unconstitutionally defunded aspects of Obamacare, including repugnant accommodations for big corporations, Obama insiders, and members of Congress.” All we’re asking is that the rest of America “get the same relief from this awful law that Obama cronies, the ruling class, and the politically-connected get.”

Please call your senators and politely ask them to stand with Senator Cruz. This is especially important if your senator is a Democrat up for re-election in a red state in 2014. That would be Senators Mark Begich (D-AK), Mark Pryor (D-AR), Mary Landrieu (D-LA), and Kay Hagan (D-NC). Remind them politely that we are watching their votes very carefully and even a procedural vote that shuts down this debate will be regarded as a vote for Obamacare, and there will be consequences for them at the ballot box next year. The same goes for Republicans up for re-election. We definitely expect them to stand shoulder to shoulder with Senator Cruz through thick and thin.

The number for the Capitol Hill Switchboard is 202-224-3121. Ask for your senator’s office. You can also find their contact information and contact them online at
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

Remember, we elected these senators precisely for moments like this. If they can’t do anything with the power we’ve given them through their elected office, then perhaps it’s time for them to retire and let someone else have a go.

Opposition to Obamacare carried us to victory in 2010. And 2014 is just around the corner.

- Sarah Palin

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3070348/posts?page=5#5


14 posted on 09/23/2013 5:51:12 PM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: PAR; Jim Robinson

No one, EVER, said this would work in. the. senate.

Cruz, Lee nor Paul, now Palin, none of them, EVER, said the senate would lend aid and comfort to Cruz, roll over, or pass this CR to defund, but there CAN be a “NO” vote on cloture, IF, we get up, stand up and fight on the phone lines before we have to fight on life lines. :)

This entire effort is about US. You and me. It’s the sound of the shofar calling US to rally. That’s IT.


15 posted on 09/23/2013 5:53:00 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: PAR

Mr. Taranto is quite bright. But he is also a tory and a loyalist for the gop/’rat uniparty.

What Mr. Taranto fails to recognize is that absent some fairly dramatic actions on the part of elected so-called conservatives, real conservatives will be leaving DC to its own devices. They won’t be throwing in the towel, though. They’ll be moving to the state legislatures and the topic they’ll be discussing isn’t going to be some white paper written by a beltway think tank, it’ll instead be how to get a divorce.

What Mr. Taranto fails to recognize is that the sentiment for secession is building in the more conservative areas of the country.


16 posted on 09/23/2013 5:57:16 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: bigbob; Jim Robinson

Interesting theory....Jim, what do you think?


17 posted on 09/23/2013 6:01:33 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

How many time are conservatives going to play Charlie Brown to the RINO Lucys? We all know the football is going to be pulled away and yet we get our hopes up. Sadly, this whole effort is just mental masturbation, kabuki theatre if you will. In the end the Republicans will fold because they are afraid of being called mean by the NY Times and WaPo crowd. Our voices are just the annoying gnats in the background at an otherwise happy picnic.


18 posted on 09/23/2013 6:16:22 PM PDT by PaForBush
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To: PAR

All they have to do is fight to keep funding out. We can get the votes, but it’s an uphill fight. The next CR, do it again.


19 posted on 09/23/2013 6:32:06 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I say go for the touchdown now! The House holds all the constitutional cards. Go for the WIN!! By the way, the CR battle may last a year anyway if Obama/Reid follow through with their threat to shutdown the government and the Rebuplican House holds firm and shoves it right back in their faces (with the backing of the people). Defunding does delay it and either way will lead to a Republican landslide in 2014/2016. The people know the truth, even the government workers who are going to be laid off by Obama’s failed strategies.


20 posted on 09/23/2013 6:36:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: PAR

He’s a smug GOPe guy. All the WSJ is pathetic on amnesty, too.


21 posted on 09/23/2013 9:44:08 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
If ObamaCare is allowed to pass and then found wanting, it will not be repealed and replaced by private insurance. Instead, it will be repealed or altered into single payer.

Until I read your post I'd been an advocate of letting Obamacare begin - let it stand and fall. Let America feel the pain and see the light. I didn't see the endgame.

Thanks
22 posted on 10/01/2013 4:05:24 AM PDT by CelesteChristi
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To: Jim Robinson
The House holds all the constitutional cards.

Alas, obamatollah rejects the Constitution and will do what he wants to complete the overthrow of America.

We are at the midnight hour to save our Nation and must embrace "all means necessary" cuz the dark side does not follow the law.

23 posted on 10/01/2013 4:14:04 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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