American gun use is out of control. Shouldn't the world intervene?

The Guardian (UK) ^ | Sept 21, 2013 | Henry Porter

[Innovative]

The death toll from firearms in the US suggests that the country is gripped by civil war

The annual toll from firearms in the US is running at 32,000 deaths and climbing, even though the general crime rate is on a downward path (it is 40% lower than in 1980). If this perennial slaughter doesn't qualify for intercession by the UN and all relevant NGOs, it is hard to know what does.

But no nation sees itself as outsiders do. Half the country is sane and rational while the other half simply doesn't grasp the inconsistencies and historic lunacy of its position, which springs from the second amendment right to keep and bear arms, and is derived from English common law and our 1689 Bill of Rights. We dispensed with these rights long ago, but American gun owners cleave to them with the tenacity that previous generations fought to continue slavery.

There is absolutely nothing he (Obama) can do, which underscores the fact that America is in a jam and that international pressure may be one way of reducing the slaughter over the next generation. This has reached the point where it has ceased to be a domestic issue. The world cannot stand idly by.

[Innovative]

This is beyond belief -- the author advocates treating the US as some savage country, where international "intervention" is needed to save us from ourselves...

(Please try to keep your responses clean, don't post what you first want to say -- I had to apply significant self control because my initial reaction was definitely not printable...)

[cripplecreek]

Come and take it.

[Jim Robinson]

To hell with that nonsense! The world should straighten out its own messes.

[ltc8k6]

They included all deaths, like suicides, and criminals shot and killed, I think.

[Innovative]

“Come and take it.”

That was my first printable thought too...

[BenLurkin]

Molon Labe baby.

[Cringing Negativism Network]

One of these days the UK will for some reason, somehow want to have guns around once again.

In America, we’ll be ready.

Just saying.

[barmag25]

Where does he sight his statistics from?

[Still Thinking]

Anyone who can write "We dispensed with these rights long ago" without immediately realizing his argument is full of shiite, crumpling it up and starting a new one one something he's qualified to talk about, is not to be taken seriously.

Rights? Who needs those?

[2ndDivisionVet]

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts

[Innovative]

“They included all deaths, like suicides, and criminals shot and killed, I think.”

What it doesn’t include is how many lives would have been saved, if the victims had guns too...

[shankbear]

Who the crap would they send? The Brits? The French? The Swedes? None of theom could make a dent in Texas muchless the entire USA. Shove it ya daft pricks.

[HiTech RedNeck]

What fact-bereft hypocritical lunacy.

[rktman]

Mr. porter. Your flappin’ gums are out of control. I’d like to intervene. Come on down. This ain’t some podunk country and people actually enjoy freedom here. I got a suggestion for ya. Write an article condemning all the loony muzzie asshats in GB and see if your editors let you print that. My guess is no. How’s that freedom of speech lookin’ no nancy boy?

[DCBryan1]

Yes world you can help our gun violence. Please take and assimilate our young, black, uneducated, unchurched, fatherless males and our crime rate would resemble Iceland.

[Lurker]

Dear Henry,

Please do try it. I’d prefer if you were st the head of the UN forces. Make sure they buy you a snappy uniform that stands out to show your brilliant leadership skills.

L

[clee1]

Bring it on “International Community”

You can have mine - bullets first! (and I bet my stockpile equals yours, emasculated England)

[FlingWingFlyer]

It’s like this Henry old boy. We didn’t kick your @$$es in the Revolutionary War so we would have to listen to you passing gas to the tune, “Take Their Guns Away”. You worry about your island. We’ll worry about our continent. Don’t you have some Muzzie feet that you should be kissing?

[DJ MacWoW]

It's based on emotion and liberal stupidity, not facts. Ignorance can be cured.

CDC Gun Research Backfires on Obama

[RetiredTexasVet]

The sheeple of the Third World EU want company when they are enslaved.

[SgtHooper]

Exactly! Send em in!

[cripplecreek]

We're pretty gun heavy here in Michigan as well. One in every 17 adult males has a concealed carry permit and there are many many times more shotguns and rifles that don't require registration of any kind.

We even allow open carry in our state capitol building.

[Wiser now]

The United States of America are a sovereign nation that cannot, and will not be policed or governed by any other group.
My right to keep and bear arms for self-protection is inalienable and will not be denied.
This “intellectual” can mind his own business.

[Still Thinking]

Half the country is sane and rational while the other half simply doesn't grasp the inconsistencies and historic lunacy of its position, which springs from the second amendment right to keep and bear arms, and is derived from English common law and our 1689 Bill of Rights.

"Half of the country is sane and the other half believes in civil rights" and then as if that's not bad enough, later goes on to compare belief in IIA to OPPOSITION to abolition (an ANTI-rights position). Moron. Oxygen thief. Guy's guilty of fraud for considering himself a primate. I daresay the Englishmen's DOGS of 1689 had more sense and dignity than this buffoon.

[tacticalogic]

You’d think a Brit would know better. They decided the Americans needed to be disarmed once before.

[cuban leaf]

This is beyond belief — the author advocates treating the US as some savage country, where international “intervention” is needed to save us from ourselves...

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They think we’re Syria. ;-)

[Mark17]

The death toll from firearms in the US suggests that the country is gripped by civil war

When, not if, the civil war comes, there will be no doubt in their minds. It will be far bloodier than it is now.

[BenLurkin]

bttt

[Still Thinking]

This is beyond belief — the author advocates treating the US as some savage country, where international “intervention” is needed to save us from ourselves...

Maybe they're just referring to Washington DC....

[Texas Eagle]

Bring it on, world.

[okie01]

It's based on emotion and liberal stupidity, not facts. Ignorance can be cured.It's based on emotion and liberal stupidity, not facts. Ignorance can be cured.

Only if it wants to be...

[Wiser now]

The United States of America are a sovereign nation that cannot, and will not be policed or governed by any other group.
My right to keep and bear arms for self-protection is inalienable and will not be denied.
This “intellectual” can mind his own business.

[ASA Vet]

Maybe it's a site which cites people using ending prepositions.

[real saxophonist]

Dear World:

Come and take them.

Love, David.

[SoldierDad]

Xerxes demanded that King Leonidas and his Spartan warriors lay down their weapons and be subservient to his rule. King Leonidas told the Persians to come and get them. Born from the actions of the Spartans was the concepts of freedom and liberty. I stand with King Leonidas. COME AND GET THEM!!!

[DJ MacWoW]

Agreed.

[Pharmboy]

Was this hypocritical twit screaming for intervention for the women and children of Rwanda when 800,000 were hacked to death in the mid-90s? Has he screamed for the intervention of the world when tens of thousands of Syrians are killed by their government?

This was--IMO--a dumb piece commissioned by his editor so they would get some publicity.

[Mark17]

Is that really true about Greenland?

[M-cubed]

(Please try to keep your responses clean, don't post what you first want to say — I had to apply significant self control because my initial reaction was definitely not printable...)

ok...My answer is Yes....*G*

[Pearls Before Swine]

It looks to me like weapons use... much heavier weapons, too...is out of control in Syria and a good deal of Africa. Why just the other day, I heard there was a weapons problem at a mall in Nairobi (/S). I also heard that some manpads were missing in Libya. And there’s a major weapons problem in Mexico.

Why worry about the law-abiding US citizen?

[cripplecreek]

"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."

-Isoroku Yamamoto

[Chode]

feeling froggy boy??? then jump... (+)

[trubolotta]

The UK does a phenomenal job to cook its books on murders and violent crimes. A homicide cannot be classified as a murder until there is a conviction. Total BS about their lower murder rates. Read that in a FR post about a year ago - sorry, no link but that was the short of it.

Brits telling us about “our” crime problem is laughable.

[Calvin Locke]

They can come and take Eric Holder et al, all the ne’er-do-well sons of Barack, illegal aliens, crazed muzzies, and that would bring bring down the numbers to something manageable.

[Westbrook]

There are about the same number of drunk driving deaths in the US, too. Should the world intervene and take our cars away, too?

As for those firearms deaths, I’ll venture that the majority of those involved alcoholic beverages. Should the world impose prohibition on us again?

And what about Islam? I’ll venture that pathogen killed ten times as many last year.

How about eradicating that scourge?

[DJ MacWoW]

I found the map on Politifake and their stuff is usually accurate. There are exceptions. It appears to be accurate though.

Wiki Intentional homicide map

[Tzimisce]

...I noticed that Muslim beheadings are rising in Britain....

[2ndDivisionVet]

Twice, actually.

[stevem]

Here’s an idea. Have Henry Porter come to my neighborhood to intervene.

[SoldierDad]

We’re not there yet. I pray we get there soon.