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Colorado flood towns may come back less diverse
AP ^ | 9/24/2013 | HANNAH DREIER

Posted on 09/24/2013 3:26:59 AM PDT by EBH

Carmel Ross, 66, an artist and caretaker for the elderly, thought about the town's future amid the splintered trailers that now surround the mobile home she rents for $430 a month.

"Who rebuilds a trailer park?" she asked, laughing through tears. "Lyons is going to become a different story now. It's a loss of a way of life. The things could always be bought again, but there will no longer by any low-income housing in this town."

Former mayor Tim Combs said the new Lyons might look more like Aspen, a tony, celebrity refuge that began as a working class hamlet.

"It's going to upgrade the town. We're going to see nicer houses replace a house that wasn't so nice," he said. "Lyons is surrounded by protected open space, so there will be no place for the poor people to go...."

...Lyons residents were told at a town meeting Thursday that it might take officials six months to restore drinking water and working sewage...

...Residents of the even more remote community of Jamestown have been told it could be a year before they can return.

..."Nobody wants to see those McMansions built that people live in only three weeks of the year," he said. "But it's the way this country works — the poor people are always getting pushed out, with or without a flood."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: elitism; femacamp

1 posted on 09/24/2013 3:26:59 AM PDT by EBH
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To: EBH

...well I guess they will start busing in illegals from the borders states when things dry out...gubment fix


2 posted on 09/24/2013 3:32:02 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: EBH
"Lyons is surrounded by protected open space, so there will be no place for the poor people to go...."

Get Hispanic and go to California. Nobody owes you a $430 trailer to rent in Colorado.

3 posted on 09/24/2013 3:32:14 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: george76

Colorado ping


4 posted on 09/24/2013 3:38:21 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: EBH
"Lyons is surrounded by protected open space,

Government interference with the free market.

This is by design, the Elites driving ordinary people away from the beautiful places, the middle class and poor can go live somewhere else, and drive back daily to clean the houses of the rich.

5 posted on 09/24/2013 3:42:07 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (SWAT stands for Storing Weapons for patriots to Attack Tyranny.)
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To: EBH

A natural disaster happens and all the media can do is make it a class envy story?


6 posted on 09/24/2013 3:57:32 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Howdy to all you government agents spying on me.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Two thoughts actually, first this area where these proposed McMansions will go could end up being a squatters paradise. Folks only staying in these fancy homes 3 weeks of the year could leave them open for easy pickings.

Second, isn’t Obama working to introduce Section 8 housing for this very reason ...a lack of diversity.

Lastly, I have acquaintances that actually don’t own a home of their own, but they do long-term (6 months or longer) pet sitting & house sitting all around the country!


7 posted on 09/24/2013 4:03:18 AM PDT by EBH ( Freeman: A person not in slavery or serfdom.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Bingo.


8 posted on 09/24/2013 4:07:36 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Prioritize!)
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To: EBH

Lyons is a special place. A lot of the people there are blue collar musicians. Rocky Grass is a very special family friendly festival. When we were there several years ago, my husband went tubing in the river and discovered that several hundred dollars had floated out of his wallet. All but $20 was recovered and returned to him by local teenagers. I call them blue collar because they work very hard for the little money they make and they do this because they love the music (largely blue grass and American old timey). They could have long ago become some sort of tourist trap being on the road from Denver to Estes but have not done so.


9 posted on 09/24/2013 4:12:12 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: OrangeHoof

Yup! Sort of my first impression on reading this too.

A class envy story and a reason for a FEMA camp? Trailer Park owners are saying they won’t reopen, so people have no where to go and now can’t afford to stay.

I’ve been to some of these ‘starving artists’ type hamlets. They are quaint and I like them for the uniqueness of the art pieces. Now, it sounds like they are going to bring big name/ticket shops with imports from who knows where? Urbana comes to the foothills? I don’t know...something does get lost in the translation.


10 posted on 09/24/2013 4:12:58 AM PDT by EBH ( Freeman: A person not in slavery or serfdom.)
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To: Mercat

Well, it looks like that is all going to change now.


11 posted on 09/24/2013 4:14:24 AM PDT by EBH ( Freeman: A person not in slavery or serfdom.)
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To: EBH

“Second, isn’t Obama working to introduce Section 8 housing for this very reason ...a lack of diversity.”

Obama seems to think “whiteness” will rub off on blacks if he makes every municipality house a certain quota of blacks (this is akin to the Quartering Act that fueled discontent leading up to the Revolution). If he can just get EVERY white person to contribute (instead of those unfortunate enough to be in the states/counties/municipalities with a large welfare herd), he thinks things will improve...


12 posted on 09/24/2013 4:23:31 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (The talking heads have admitted is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: EBH
The WHOLE country needs to become LESS DIVERSE, and if you are un-productive, we will NOT help you by sharing our earnings.

Either get on your own feet, or if you're unable to work (LEGITIMATELY), get help from your family.

You act irresponsibly, you pay the price, NOT someone else. You get pregnant, YOU are responsible, the father is responsible for the child's expense and NOT others....and, we do not allow murder of the un-born to wipe out your irresponsiblty.

Deal with it....or leave.

13 posted on 09/24/2013 4:33:11 AM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: EBH

Diverse?? Really?? That’s the story? Diversity is one of the left’s meaningless “worship words” with imaginary benefits.


14 posted on 09/24/2013 5:16:00 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

The Balkans have got diversity.

Fat lot of good it does them.


15 posted on 09/24/2013 5:18:18 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: OrangeHoof
Sure. The transformation was already underway and the trailer parks would have been eventually sold and redeveloped. Now that the trailer park has been destroyed, there is no economic sense in rebuilding it. It seems bad for the people who are now displaced, but what was their investment in it?

If there is a place you want to be long term, the best way to ensure it is to own the real estate (but even that is not a guarantee).

16 posted on 09/24/2013 5:18:20 AM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (R.I P. my old FRiend and neighbor Blackie Owens. Be ever vigilant!)
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To: kearnyirish2

If you put a spoonful of wine into a barrel of sewage, you’ve got ... sewage.

If you put a spoonful of sewage into a barrel of wine, you’ve got ... sewage.


17 posted on 09/24/2013 5:19:37 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude; traditional1
When they say diverse, that is a code word for poor.

This is a tourist and retirement destination which depends on low wages. You might say service jobs or hospitality industry jobs, or seasonal jobs.

Low wages and high real estate or high housing. So losing low rent housing like a trailer park is significant. Faced with the cost re-establishing the trailer park, the owner will probably sell to a developer.

As you probably know, the hospitality industry is a strong backer of immigration reform and greatly expanded guest worker programs.

18 posted on 09/24/2013 5:58:21 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: DuncanWaring

“The Balkans have got diversity. Fat lot of good it does them.”

Can you imagine a town complaining because it has fewer low income residents?


19 posted on 09/24/2013 6:03:31 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Blunt, but to the point.

For years now, those who can afford it have been establishing private neighborhoods, gated communities. They pay a premium to live in cleaner, safer, quieter surroundings. They live behind a wall and a gate - necessary due to the rotting of American society.

Can you blame them? Poverty is not the cause, of course. But it’s highly correlative. Those who suffer most are the good people who are poor and have no escape.

I commute 35 miles each way because my only escape was “further out”. (And even at that, there is one family that upsets the peace of the entire small community, one “spoonful of sewage”.)


20 posted on 09/24/2013 6:17:09 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Gaffer

$430. A company I worked for years ago wanted to transfer me to Denver. I went up and looked around. I found 3/2 trailers on 1/2 acre renting for $1,100/month and up. Needless to say houses were higher so I opted to stay in Texas in my custom made 2200 sq. ft. rock house and acreage that was less than $1,400 month mortgage.


21 posted on 09/24/2013 6:25:14 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: beaversmom; MileHi; dhs12345; neverdem; ColoCowgirl; RandallFlagg; dynachrome; GSWarrior; ...

Sell the government controlled land to allow individuals to build new housing ?

Colorado Ping ( Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from the list.)


22 posted on 09/24/2013 7:07:07 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

What is sad about this is the people who had homes already paid for or who make their payments but have to live very modestly cannot afford to rebuild. I live in a smaller town not far from Lyons. It was a great little town. I could live without the 2 pot shops on main street, so cleaning them out was probably a good thing. But I do feel for the working class people. In my town, housing is absolutely exploding! We moved to this town last year because it was a quieter town like the one we left back in IL. But all the new construction is in the 300-600+ range. There is no one anymore who builds houses for the moderate income people and I don’t think that’s fair for the people who can afford to make payments but just not $1800/month. Must we always have these enormous monstrosities being built? How about a nice cottage community? NOT condos.


23 posted on 09/24/2013 9:11:53 AM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: conservativebabe

Send the illegals back.

The illegals grab housing, medical services, school room space ... and add to the crowded roads with their vehicles.


24 posted on 09/24/2013 9:30:07 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

A past friend who lived in Evergreen showed me home sites burned out and nothing was rebuilt in any direction for miles.

The Open Space Program is how Colorado is being communized.

They can either elect people who will sell the state lands or they can go down their present path until they are merely communism’s ‘proles’ in the Sheeples Republic of Colorado.


25 posted on 09/24/2013 10:47:55 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: GladesGuru

Part of the UN Agenda 21.

The low information fools vote for open space to save the ______ ; then they need more affordable housing : aka government run, owned, managed ... property that is filled with more low information fools who vote for every tax increase imagined .

The fools do not pay taxes, thus they are happy to vote to spend other peoples money on every useless idea around.

Get ready for ** free ** high speed rail up I-70 ( Denver / DIA to Breckenridge ) at very steep grades.


26 posted on 09/24/2013 2:15:50 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: EBH

Here’s what’s really been happening on the CO Rockies for decades. The bipartisan creme of the crop (all on large incomes directly or indirectly from government debt and waste) made the regulations against reasonably sized houses, against agriculture (recently passed animal protection law affects agriculture, too), against producing anything of good use, against all that is good.

Keeps the Range nearly exclusive to their kind. Nearly all of the lots with usable water rights are ruled over by socialist homeowners’ associations. Spying between commie-minded neighbors, gossip and false accusations are the common norm. There’s government housing (pretty ho’s and kids only) in some of the small towns for the purposes of counties getting more of that gold from federal funding (on top of the tens of millions that they get for the tiny, local, upscale schools).

The default process will eventually solve the problem (see future layoffs, contractor office closings, repudiations against pensions), but the bipartisan socialists on the Range will be the last to go (more equal than the other more equal animals of lower places).

Not very pretty or conducive to being a liked member of the in cluster, is it? Too bad. I fix and build complicated, heavy, dirty looking technical things for myself, too.

Boo! ;-)


27 posted on 09/24/2013 4:25:37 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: george76

Re that tip on high speed rail, I see that and raise you pigs will fly and the price of hog bellies will go sky high.

;-)

Not to worry, we will be providing bacon to the low information voters.

Got dependents?

;-(


28 posted on 09/24/2013 5:47:28 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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