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The West Need Not Fear Its Young Muslims (NYT alert)
New York Times ^ | September 23, 2013 | JAMES FERGUSSON

Posted on 09/24/2013 6:14:22 AM PDT by reaganaut1

LONDON — It has been five years since Shirwa Ahmed, a 26-year-old from Minneapolis, blew himself up in northern Somalia, and sent shivers up American spines about young immigrants from war-torn Muslim countries who were turning into terrorists. Unconfirmed reports that American Muslims might have been among the gunmen who stormed Nairobi’s Westgate shopping mall over the weekend will no doubt revive fears of the “enemy within.”

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I remain, however, unafraid of Somalis, least of all of Americanized ones. I spent time in Minnesota in 2011 — the Twin Cities is home to the greatest concentration in the United States of Somalis in exile — and uncovered this reassuring truth: hotheads inclined to support the Shabab may exist in Minneapolis, but they are a mere handful in a community of tens of thousands of Somalis who want nothing to do with extremist Islamism.

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Not all is rosy in the Twin Cities, of course. Many Somalis there live in economically marginal communities and, as elsewhere, some teenagers join criminal street gangs. So law enforcement officials still watch to see if some will turn to jihadism. After all, in the words of Zuhur Ahmed, a woman in her 20s who used to host a Minneapolis radio show called Somali Community Link, the motives for joining a street gang and for signing on as a jihadi can be similar — typically, an alienated boy’s desperate yearning for identity and importance. The Shabab, she noted, means “the youth” in Arabic. “They’re just street boys who want to belong somewhere,” she told me.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: americanjihad; celebratediversity; headinthesandalert; islamicimperialism; islaminamerica; ivorytower; lifeamongthekufir; nyettimes; nytimesbias; religionofpeacealert; waronterror; yellowjournalism
What's interesting is that the author is shredded by NYT readers in the comments section.
1 posted on 09/24/2013 6:14:22 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

Liberalism is nothing more than a patronage scam that expands like vermin if uncontrolled. Since the economy is Obamasized and the Bernanke funny money helicopter drop is coming to its natural conclusion there is less money to spread around so even the other lefty parasites are looking to vote someone off the island. So “Coexist” in the future will look like “Oexist.”


2 posted on 09/24/2013 6:19:11 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: reaganaut1

They may be dumb, but they’re not stupid.

Or maybe it’s the other way around?

I use a different nic on the NYTimes, I’m a big commenter.


3 posted on 09/24/2013 6:22:14 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: reaganaut1

I hope this moron goes to live in their community and sees if his views change.


4 posted on 09/24/2013 6:22:46 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: junta

Imagine the STUPID look he’s going to have on his face when his decapitated head is put on a pike.


5 posted on 09/24/2013 6:22:57 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: reaganaut1
hotheads inclined to support the Shabab may exist in Minneapolis, but they are a mere handful in a community of tens of thousands of Somalis who want nothing to do with extremist Islamism.

It only took a handful of hotheads to bring down the twin towers. What an idiot.

The larger point is, the non-hotheads are largely disinclined to police the hotheads and often agree with their agenda even if they are not actively supporting it.

6 posted on 09/24/2013 6:23:07 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: reaganaut1

Ah, liberals—still valiantly waging war against reality.


7 posted on 09/24/2013 6:23:16 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Truth/Lies; Liberty/Tyranny--WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE??)
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To: reaganaut1

Yeah, even those who typically lap up the NYT slop like hungry pigs can see through this one.

According to the NYT, law abiding white people with guns should be feared more than young radicalized Muslims.


8 posted on 09/24/2013 6:23:40 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: reaganaut1

Which one, at any given time, is part of the handful that you can’t trust? ...It’s not a matter of counting individuals, and declaring the whole safe. It isn’t about individuals. It is about Islam. Islam is wrong, and everyone who takes part in it is a potential or present danger.


9 posted on 09/24/2013 6:25:25 AM PDT by pallis
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To: reaganaut1

Denial ain’t a river in Muslim Brotherhood-ruled Egypt.


10 posted on 09/24/2013 6:25:52 AM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: reaganaut1

I’m amazed newspapers allow comment sections. People shred nonsense like this worse than FReepers do, any more.

I bet the comments are gone by noon.


11 posted on 09/24/2013 6:26:42 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: reaganaut1
James Ferguson is fluent in Obonics.

The way to translate Obonics to English is you take whatever Obama or one of his Obots say and reverse it Willy Wonka style.

12 posted on 09/24/2013 6:28:47 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: reaganaut1

Sure. The bombing in Boston was done by tea-partiers.


13 posted on 09/24/2013 6:30:21 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: reaganaut1

How an they even publish garbage like this with a straight face?


14 posted on 09/24/2013 6:32:11 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius
How an they even publish garbage like this with a straight face?

The Saudis have a lot of "journalists" on their payroll.

15 posted on 09/24/2013 6:32:51 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: reaganaut1

“They’re just street boys who want to belong somewhere,” she told me.”

Like in a mall in Nairobi?


16 posted on 09/24/2013 6:34:06 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Seen any scandal headlines lately?)
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To: reaganaut1

When all evidence is that it’s the second generation raised in the comforts of the West that tends to radicalize, not their parents who actually fled the hell hole?


17 posted on 09/24/2013 6:38:41 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: reaganaut1

I was talking to a young liberal female attorney about 3 years ago who lives in Minneapolis who told me of the man responsible for organizing the effort that brought about 10,000 Somalis here some time ago.
When I asked her WHY you would want to bring 10,000 dirt poor 3rd world Muslims who cant speak English, have few skills other than being murderously violent and virulently anti Western since about 2 or 3,000 years ago and do not share our love for America, here she was speechless.
“I don’t know.”

True story


18 posted on 09/24/2013 6:41:18 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: TurboZamboni

bump


19 posted on 09/24/2013 6:41:36 AM PDT by Yehuda (Pres Obortion, Sen.McAnus, & Hillary Rotten Clinton all kiss the *ss of the muslim brotherhood.)
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To: reaganaut1

We just give them jobs in the food processing industry.

Eat up.


20 posted on 09/24/2013 6:41:56 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: bill1952

And they cannot unless they are a democrap power broker, then they lie why they want it.


21 posted on 09/24/2013 6:50:06 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

22 posted on 09/24/2013 6:52:09 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: dirtboy

But But But But But (hold on just a few more Buts. As every leftist knows if you say but enough times what follows has just got to make sense)But But But But But

I probably wont be anywhere near when they choose to carry out their dirty deed.

Thinking like a left winger makes my head hurt.


23 posted on 09/24/2013 7:05:02 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: reaganaut1; GeronL

THE WEST NEED NOT FEAR GUN OWNERSHIP - said the New York Times NEVER!


24 posted on 09/24/2013 7:10:36 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: IMR 4350
In 2004, candidate John Kerry said that we were just going to have to accept a certain nuisance level of terrorism in America.
25 posted on 09/24/2013 7:11:57 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: reaganaut1

the rarely used word BALDERDASH comes to mind for some reason.


26 posted on 09/24/2013 7:12:43 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: reaganaut1

“Fear”?

No....I’m PREPARED!!!!


27 posted on 09/24/2013 7:15:38 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: a fool in paradise
It truly is amazing how the same left that says accept a certain amount of terrorism, also has their talking points in place before the attacks to benefit from the terrorism.

Personally I don't believe this attack in Kenya being timed to correspond with the WH and the lefts attack against the 2nd Amendment is just a coincidence.

When you consider the “spontaneous’ lie with Benghazi is nothing more complicated than saying the terrorist are so in tune with the news the terrorist can pick up on a news story and plan an attack around that story in just a few minutes, there is just too much of the “spontaneous” lie built into the lefts attack against the 2nd and the attack in Kenya for it to be just a coincidence in my opinion.

28 posted on 09/24/2013 7:31:17 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: william clark

Denial ain’t a river in Muslim Brotherhood-ruled Egypt.”Agreed, and America agrees, too - based on the number of guns purchased by Americans since Clinton and Obama defiled the White House.

Americans now own 44+% of all private arms in the entire world.

Every day, we do better.
;-)

Americans know what may be about to happen and we are able to deal with it.

Cowboys & Muslims time is approaching.


29 posted on 09/24/2013 8:09:01 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: reaganaut1

The title is refuted daily by facts on the ground.

Who was Anwar Al Awlaki?

Who is “The White Widow”?

Who are / were the Brothers Tsarnaev?

Who shot up The Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle?

Who flew off from Charles de Gaul to fight in Syria?

Etc.


30 posted on 09/24/2013 8:11:34 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Why haven't we heard from the 30 Benghazi survivors?)
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To: bill1952

“I was talking to a young liberal female attorney”

Have you nothing better to do with your time?

;-)

PS Talking with Libtards causes IQ points to ooze from ones ears.


31 posted on 09/24/2013 8:11:40 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: bill1952

There are now area son Minneapolis that the police are afraid to enter..and check out the crime stats...


32 posted on 09/24/2013 8:14:06 AM PDT by ken5050 (Benghazi investigation update: "The plot thickens, like Hillary Clinton's ankles.." (longfellow")
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To: reaganaut1

I live in rural central Virginia, redneck country (and proud of it). I’m halfway between Lynchburg and Appomattox. I do most of my shopping in Lynchburg, but if I need something over the weekend, I will run down to the Walmart in Appomattox.

Now, this Walmart is a small one, but lately I notice groups of Muslims shopping there, and suddenly the store has two Muslim employees——both female and wrapped head to toe in that crap they wear.

As it happens, there is a well-known Muslim militia compound close by in Red House, Virginia. It was established by the same Pakistani cleric who created the all-Muslim town, “Islamberg”, in New York.

Maybe I’m paranoid, but I’m wondering if I need to stop frequenting that Walmart. Admittedly, it would be a small-time target, but how hard would it be for one of those employees to hide a bomb belt?


33 posted on 09/24/2013 8:43:49 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.)
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To: reaganaut1

34 posted on 09/24/2013 9:38:57 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: reaganaut1

The West Need Not Fear Its Young Muslims
said the scorpion to the frog,
it’s in our nature said the scorpion just before they both drowned


35 posted on 09/24/2013 9:54:03 AM PDT by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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To: reaganaut1

The Times comment section on this Op-Ed is closed.

I went there to post this:

Why do leftists and the government argue that it is wrong to judge all Muslims as dangerous because of the murderous actions of a few lunatics, but...

They judge all gun owners as dangerous because of the murderous actions of a few lunatics.


36 posted on 09/24/2013 1:24:39 PM PDT by wildbill
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