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Exclusive: Secretary of State Kerry to sign Arms Trade Treaty
Reuters ^ | Tue Sep 24 | Paul Eckert, Louis Charbonneau and Arshad Mohammed

Posted on 09/24/2013 9:11:20 AM PDT by xzins

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry will sign the Arms Trade Treaty regulating the international trade in conventional arms,

The diplomats said Kerry would sign the treaty on Wednesday

On April 2, the U.N. General Assembly adopted the treaty by a vote of 154 for, including the United States...The no votes were cast by Iran, North Korea and Syria,

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


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1 posted on 09/24/2013 9:11:20 AM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins

The Gigolo signed it.

So the jokester signed a joke.

Does that not make it a joke?

In any case, no one gives a smelly Obama about the U.N. anyway.


2 posted on 09/24/2013 9:14:42 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: xzins

When you have a Muslim President and a Traitor as Secretary of State, there was never any doubt the Treaty would be signed.

Getting it Through the Congress is another thing.

Enforcing it could start a Civil War.


3 posted on 09/24/2013 9:16:06 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: xzins

Of course Kerry will still send unconventional millitary rifles to the muslim brotherhood allies.....


4 posted on 09/24/2013 9:16:20 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Da Coyote

Does Kerry know that’s not how treaties work in the US govt?


5 posted on 09/24/2013 9:16:37 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: Da Coyote

Did he award himself a Purple Heart?


6 posted on 09/24/2013 9:17:19 AM PDT by Larry381 ("God is dead." (Nietzsche, 1885) "Nietzsche is dead." (God, 1900))
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To: Larry381

Ya know, Kerry was in Cambodia at Christmas time. AND he broke a nail.


7 posted on 09/24/2013 9:21:09 AM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: Venturer

“Getting it Through the Congress is another thing.”

Either they won’t try, or they’ll wait until the Senate is empty, then follow the constitution:

“He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.”

As long as 2/3 of the senators present vote yes. So if four are present and three vote yes...


8 posted on 09/24/2013 9:29:01 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: xzins

This is nothing to sneer at: Obama will treat this as LAW, regardless of what the Senate does.


9 posted on 09/24/2013 9:32:06 AM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: Venturer
You need to focus on what's REALLY important here.. OBAMA'S SWAGGER!!! /s


10 posted on 09/24/2013 9:35:32 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Same s--t, different a-hole.


11 posted on 09/24/2013 9:38:05 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Venturer

“Enforcing it could start a Civil War.”


I sure should, but it won’t as there are not enough patriots will to risk all their goodies like the Founders or civil war combatants did.

The constitution is now nothing more than an historic document which, at most, is nothing more than a speed bump for the disloyal Americans known as democrats.


12 posted on 09/24/2013 9:41:09 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: xzins

I signed a letter exempting myself from that treaty!

Don’t like it sue me! I’ll ignore the courts too.


13 posted on 09/24/2013 9:43:56 AM PDT by Southern by Grace (kickbacks, bribes, maifia payoffs is how the D's get R' done!)
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To: All

Even if the treaty doesn’t pass a 2/3 state majority, Obama will enforce parts of it through executive order. This is the red flag here from all this.


14 posted on 09/24/2013 9:55:56 AM PDT by InsidiousMongo
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To: xzins
It doesn't take effect for the US until the Senate ratifies it.
15 posted on 09/24/2013 9:58:30 AM PDT by JSDude1 (Is John Boehner the Neville Chamberlain of American Politics?)
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To: Venturer
When you have a Muslim President and a Traitor as Secretary of State, there was never any doubt the Treaty would be signed.

Correct.

Getting it Through the Congress is another thing.

Doesn't matter a bit to them.

Enforcing it could start a Civil War.

They've already started. Did you notice?

16 posted on 09/24/2013 10:00:40 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers choices: convert, submit, or die.)
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To: DBrow
"As long as 2/3 of the senators present vote yes. So if four are present and three vote yes..."

With respects...

Marbury v. Madison

It is also not entirely unworthy of observation that, in declaring what shall be the supreme law of the land, the Constitution itself is first mentioned, and not the laws of the United States generally, but those only which shall be made in pursuance of the Constitution, have that rank.

Thus, the particular phraseology of the Constitution of the United States confirms and strengthens the principle, supposed to be essential to all written Constitutions, that a law repugnant to the Constitution is void, and that courts, as well as other departments, are bound by that instrument.

18 USC § 2382 - Misprision of treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States and having knowledge of the commission of any treason against them, conceals and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President or to some judge of the United States, or to the governor or to some judge or justice of a particular State, is guilty of misprision of treason and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than seven years, or both.

18 USC § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

I think that about covers it....

17 posted on 09/24/2013 10:00:45 AM PDT by SERE_DOC ( “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” TJ.)
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To: xzins

Treaty is worthless...Treaties have to be approved by the Senate and it ain’t gonna happen.


18 posted on 09/24/2013 10:03:13 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: xzins; All
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19 posted on 09/24/2013 10:05:00 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Wurlitzer
We need a strong, intelligent, patriotic, constitution-loving WOMAN to explain to FEMALES that their love for 0bama, Kerry, etc., is based on STYLE not SUBSTANCE.

Today's Democrats are DEMONS. They hate America and that's why they are changing it. This is what 'CHANGE' meant. 0bama, Kerry, etc., are MARXISTS who are hellbent on enslaving us to a tyrannical gov't. Why do the LIV's not care about this? Palin needs to get on TV and set the LIV's straight! Palin needs to get even more BLUNT and call her female LIV 'sistas' out for their MISGUIDED BELIEFS about the DemonRat party.

Unless Palin can succeed at awakening the majority female voter base, America's goose is COOKED.

20 posted on 09/24/2013 10:07:16 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: SERE_DOC

Yes, I agree that those were the rules in the Old America. But we are in Transformed America now, and it remains to be seen what the new rules are. And who will enforce them.

The latter is the main point, it does not look like anyone is interested in enforcing the old rules.


21 posted on 09/24/2013 10:10:08 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: xzins

The No Votes were: Iran, North Korea and Syria?

So those three dictatorships are in favor of gun liberty?


22 posted on 09/24/2013 10:14:30 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: xzins

May we assume this will require Senate ratification, or is that a mere formality not germane to the Era of Unfettered Executive Power?

Will I be required to register my Japanese souvenir (deer hunting) rifle with the UN?


23 posted on 09/24/2013 10:14:49 AM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: xzins

Fk em all. Try to take my weapons and you’ll get them bullets first . What a bunch of A-Holes!


25 posted on 09/24/2013 10:23:32 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: Joe Mannix

2/3 rds of congress does not need to ratify this. 2/3 of those Senators present need to ratify (see my #8), according to the Constitution.

The Constitution does not mention a quorum at all, just that 2/3 of Senators present.


26 posted on 09/24/2013 10:38:11 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Carry_Okie

I read about confiscation in California amongst Veterans with PTSD.


27 posted on 09/24/2013 11:23:15 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

That old fat broad in gray looks like she is getting the big O.


28 posted on 09/24/2013 11:24:47 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: DBrow

I am sure that can be arranged.


29 posted on 09/24/2013 11:25:55 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Venturer
“Getting it Through the Congress is another thing.”

51 RATs run the Senate
1 independent = Rat
6 RINOs = RATs

That's 58

All that's needed is 2 more RINO/RATs. We're about to witness how good those NSA/IRS files are.

30 posted on 09/24/2013 11:28:14 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: Elsiejay; Joe Mannix

What the administration will say is that they’ll act as if under it until the Senate confirms or denies it. Then they won’t push for the Senate to take it up, since the Senate is in democrat hands.

Then, they will act contrary to it when it suits their purposes, such as sending arms to Syrian rebels.


31 posted on 09/24/2013 11:44:07 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks xzins.
On April 2, the U.N. General Assembly adopted the treaty by a vote of 154 for, including the United States...The no votes were cast by Iran, North Korea and Syria...
...and the Senate won't ratify it, or so it sez in the earlier topic.


32 posted on 09/25/2013 12:17:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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