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U.S. Malls on Alert After Al-Shabab Assault in Nairobi
The Daily Beast ^ | September 24, 2013 | Miranda Green and Eli Lake

Posted on 09/24/2013 11:40:40 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Department of Homeland Security is urging shopping malls in the United States to increase security in the aftermath of the carnage wrought by al Qaeda’s Somalia affiliate over the weekend in Nairobi.

Malachy Kavanagh, a spokesman for the International Council of Shopping Centers, told The Daily Beast on Monday that the department contacted shopping malls Sunday to check on the precautions they were taking against mass shooters.

U.S. intelligence officials say there is no specific threat information suggesting that al Qaeda is planning a similar kind of mass shooting in American shopping malls. Nonetheless, security experts worry about copycats.

“There could be copycats,” said Rep. Mike McCaul (R-TX), chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee. McCaul said he was concerned about psychologically unstable people or radicalized Americans looking at the images from the Westgate mall in Nairobi and seeking to carry out a similar attack in the United States.

“After 9/11 we had the two shooters who ran up and down the East Coast,” he said. McCaul stressed that the two men, known as the D.C. snipers, were not connected to al Qaeda. But he said, “You could have someone who is mentally unstable, and this is their unhealthy way to draw attention to themselves.”

A Department of Homeland Security official on Monday confirmed that the department was recently in communication with “commercial facilities, which include shopping centers and malls in the United States.” The official added, “At this time, there is no indication of a threat to the homeland related to the incident in Nairobi.”

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The Mall of America, the biggest shopping mall in the United States, has already increased security measures in response to the Nairobi mall siege over the weekend.

“Mall of America continues to monitor the tragic events unfolding in Kenya with the help of federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies,” said a spokesman for the mall. “Mall of America has implemented extra security precautions. Some may be noticeable to guests, and others won’t be. We will continue to follow the situation, along with law enforcement, and will remain vigilant as we always do in similar situations.”

The giant shopping mall is in Bloomington, Minnesota, less than 20 minutes from Minneapolis, which boasts a vibrant Somali-American community, from which al Qaeda’s Somalia affiliate, Al-Shabab, has been recruiting heavily.

Shootings in American shopping malls are not uncommon. Two women were killed at a San Francisco mall in July, and last Christmas two were fatally shot in a mall in Portland, Oregon, before the shooter turned the gun on himself.

In 2007 a Somali man with ties to al Qaeda was arrested for plotting to bomb a mall in Columbus, Ohio. He pleaded guilty to conspiring to provide material support for terrorists and was sentenced to 10 years in prison.

Many of the malls contacted by DHS on Sunday said they were implementing additional security precautions as a result of the events in Nairobi.

“Most [shopping] centers have their own security in place, and they could increase that, meaning they would bring in extra security officers, put more security officers in uniform to be a more obvious presence,” said Kavanagh. “They would reach out to local law enforcement officers and ask them to increase patrols in the centers.”

Echoing McCaul, Kavanaugh said the biggest fear among management at U.S. shopping malls was that ambitious copycats would draw inspiration from Nairobi.

“The U.S. security industry follows world events,” he said, “because the fear is [that] like what you saw at the Navy Yard or in Sandy Hook, that you can have an individual who is mentally deranged or someone who has been radicalized who would carry out a copycat attack.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; counterterrorism; dhs; globaljihad; jihadinamerica; kenya; nairobi; shoppingmalls; somaliamericans; terrorism; wot
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1 posted on 09/24/2013 11:40:40 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

get rid of the ‘gun free zone’ signs, and you’ll have a whole army of hidden defenders...


2 posted on 09/24/2013 11:41:52 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Shootings in American shopping malls are not uncommon. Two women were killed at a San Francisco mall in July, and last Christmas two were fatally shot in a mall in Portland, Oregon, before the shooter turned the gun on himself."

Which he did when he spotted the Concealed Carry civilian draw his weapon.

3 posted on 09/24/2013 11:44:09 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Why haven't we heard from the 30 Benghazi survivors?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I love Shish kebab.


4 posted on 09/24/2013 11:45:44 AM PDT by Paladin2 (h)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m waiting for Obummy to announce that the TSA will now be stationed at all major shopping malls.


5 posted on 09/24/2013 11:45:45 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“You could have someone who is mentally unstable, and this is their unhealthy way to draw attention to themselves.”

So are they implying the only way a mall could be attacked in the US are by mentally unstable people? Or that terrorists are mentally unstable? Always running cover for the jihadists.


6 posted on 09/24/2013 11:46:13 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Going to the Waldorf Mall in Maryland after dark is taking your life in your hands.


7 posted on 09/24/2013 11:46:17 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Uncle Miltie

The muzzie in SLC Trolley Square mall was held down by a carrier.


8 posted on 09/24/2013 11:46:46 AM PDT by Paladin2 (h)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can’t remember the last time I was at a mall or any other place where large people gather. I went to a Seattle Mariners game this summer - no large crowd there.


9 posted on 09/24/2013 11:48:24 AM PDT by Veggie Todd (Still crazy after all these beers.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Turn up the A/C, because I’m gonna be wearing a jacket for all future mall visits.....


10 posted on 09/24/2013 11:48:29 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Damn...there's a great mall a mile or so away from me that's great for walking.It has underground parking and open its doors about 2 hours before the stores open.It's fantastic to use during hot,cold,rainy,slippery weather.with this they just might stop opening early for mall walkers like me.
11 posted on 09/24/2013 11:48:40 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They need the NSA to spy on us so they can issue warnings after the fact? Day late and a dollar short.


12 posted on 09/24/2013 11:49:01 AM PDT by informavoracious (We're being "punished" with Stanley Ann's baby. Obamacare: shovel-ready healthcare.)
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To: Veggie Todd
...where large people gather.

Ha. I just realized my own poor word choice.

13 posted on 09/24/2013 11:50:00 AM PDT by Veggie Todd (Still crazy after all these beers.)
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To: camle

Don’t let a sign get in the way of your self-defense!


14 posted on 09/24/2013 11:50:15 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Department of Homeland Security is urging shopping malls in the United States to increase security in the aftermath of the carnage wrought by al Qaeda’s Somalia affiliate over the weekend in Nairobi.

They can make bigger "guns prohibited" signs. That will work! Probably what went wrong in Nairobi. The "guns prohibited" signs weren't conspicuous enough for the terrorists to read.

15 posted on 09/24/2013 11:52:01 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We need more Paul Blarts.


16 posted on 09/24/2013 11:52:05 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

a Bosnian muslim went all allu akbar on Valentines Day in a Utah mall a couple years back but no one was supposed to notice his motive, sadly Americans died unrecognized as more victims of eeslami jihad


17 posted on 09/24/2013 11:52:13 AM PDT by silverleaf (Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an accordion.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

1. hijack danger —> pilots got guns —> hijacks STOPPED

2. military base danger—> ??? —> military base shootings will stop

3. mall danger —> ?? —> mall shootings will stop


18 posted on 09/24/2013 11:53:36 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Malls are gun free zones. No worries.


19 posted on 09/24/2013 11:53:49 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: silverleaf

A spontaneous Jihadi shot up The Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle shortly after my ex-wife stopped working there, wounding several friends, killing one.


20 posted on 09/24/2013 11:53:58 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Why haven't we heard from the 30 Benghazi survivors?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

carry eggs.....


21 posted on 09/24/2013 11:55:12 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Veggie Todd

Maybe you were thinking of a Walmart.


22 posted on 09/24/2013 11:56:44 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Prioritize!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Malls in the liberal utopias like Chicago would be the terrorists most likely target. Nobody will have guns to shoot back.


23 posted on 09/24/2013 11:57:18 AM PDT by OKCharles
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t always carry - but the mall is one place I surely pack. What with the roving junior gangstas and the car-jacking in the parking lots (and I live in the ‘burbs).


24 posted on 09/24/2013 11:57:20 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Remember when they said, “Hey if we change the way we live then THE TERRORISTS WIN..!!”

Remember that..?

Remember when a person accused of something would retort, “Hey, it’s a FREE COUNTRY..!”

Remember that..?

Just prevent immigration by Bad People, and you will mostly solve the problem.


25 posted on 09/24/2013 11:57:31 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: Uncle Miltie

I am sorry to hear that you lost a friend

one of my friends caught a knife in her back just walking into a hotel lobby in Cairo...spontaneous jihad

RIP to our friends


26 posted on 09/24/2013 11:57:37 AM PDT by silverleaf (Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an accordion.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

So nobama arms jihadist moozlum idiots in the middle east, allows the borders to be open for jihadist moozlums, provides moozlum jihadists with immigration preferences throughout the US...and now we are subjected to more limitations of OUR freedom because they are worried we might get hurt by moozlum terrorists! Something is wrong with this picture...very wrong.


27 posted on 09/24/2013 11:58:22 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“After 9/11 we had the two shooters who ran up and down the East Coast,” he said. McCaul stressed that the two men, known as the D.C. snipers, were not connected to al Qaeda.

Other than being Muslim.

28 posted on 09/24/2013 11:58:54 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Veggie Todd

Two of the malls closest to me are pretty much dead. So the joke will be on them.


29 posted on 09/24/2013 11:58:55 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The giant shopping mall is in Bloomington, Minnesota, less than 20 minutes from Minneapolis, which boasts a vibrant Somali-American community, from which al Qaeda’s Somalia affiliate, Al-Shabab, has been recruiting heavily.

Taking in welfare an sitting on your ass is now consider vibrant?

30 posted on 09/24/2013 11:59:05 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: NewHampshireDuo
I’m waiting for Obummy to announce that the TSA will now be stationed at all major shopping malls.

Any day now, everyone will have to take their shoes off when entering a mall.

31 posted on 09/24/2013 11:59:33 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Such carnage will eventually happen here in the U.S.A. The cause will be that fact that the American people have become to sick to throw out those that will cause the problem. By way of contrast we did have such strength in WWII sufficient to control a potentially threatening population.(I did not say the means used to control was nice, warm and fuzzy. I did say we and our then leadership had the strength to govern!) To put it another way at this time in history our society and government can no longer excrete!

In addition, those Third World people recently placed in positions of authority have demanded that more of the Third World populace be brought into the country so that the current Third World coup with its attendant power can be consolidated.

32 posted on 09/24/2013 12:00:06 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I had no plans to visit any of the US Malls local to me.

Doubly so now...


33 posted on 09/24/2013 12:00:53 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wouldn’t it just be simpler if we all just learned the name of Mohammed’s mother?


34 posted on 09/24/2013 12:01:27 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Uncle Miltie
Which he did when he spotted the Concealed Carry civilian draw his weapon.

IIRC, it was a young man who actually had a bead on the perp but didn't fire because of people behind him.

Either way, it caused the perp to end it on his own...chalk one up for the good guys!

35 posted on 09/24/2013 12:01:32 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

If you see a dozen Muslim “women” in full Burkas walk into the Mall. Check their feet for combat boots. Then open fire.


36 posted on 09/24/2013 12:02:18 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Doogle

And so it begins.


37 posted on 09/24/2013 12:02:37 PM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Psalm 73
I've become very leary of parking lots, especially those that don't have any human supervision. I just plain don't like indoor garages. I won't walk anywhere outside of my neighborhood walks that doesn't have a critical mass of people there.

Paranoid? Yeah, a little. It's easier than worrying about if I'm safe, since I know that these parameters keep me aa safe as possible.

38 posted on 09/24/2013 12:03:33 PM PDT by grania
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Note to Al-Queda: Don’t even bother with the Greeley Mall. About 40% occupancy, never more than 300 people in there.


39 posted on 09/24/2013 12:05:59 PM PDT by real saxophonist (All you poor, all you needy, all you're doin' is givin' to the greedy... Temptations, 'Power')
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To: camle
get rid of the ‘gun free zone’ signs, and you’ll have a whole army of hidden defenders...

I go to the mall with my wife frequently. I always carry. See here in South Florida the local ordinance says (Re: Guns forbidden zones):

"If you carry a concealed weapon on posted property, and you are detected, you may be asked to leave the premises. If you return and are still armed and are again detected, you may be arrested for trespass after warning, a misdemeanor."

So it comes down to the policy of the property owner, not a violation of criminal law. Tell you what, I'll violate anybody's dang policy to keep my wife and myself safe. Not to mention the sheep in the area.

40 posted on 09/24/2013 12:07:26 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Sounds like the Laurel Mall in Hazleton.
41 posted on 09/24/2013 12:07:46 PM PDT by angcat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I have a mall by me (I won't be so helpful that I name it) but it could not be a more tempting target for this sort of assault.

It is enormous - one of the five biggest in the country, I believe.

There is almost no security that I've ever seen.

It's under some of the strictest anti-gun laws in the country, so there's almost no chance of running into armed civilians.

Exits from the buildings are scarce and driving out of the parking area is a horrific and confusing nightmare even when there is no panic.

It has an open air atrium design, so anything from bullets to poison gas can move between all four floor instanteously.

It's packed on the weekends.

And, as an added bonus to nutjob islamis, a very large percentage of the customers are hasidim from the large hassidic communities in the area.

I'm surprised it hasn't been targeted already.

42 posted on 09/24/2013 12:10:51 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Dead Corpse

My wife works in a mall and has for many years.


43 posted on 09/24/2013 12:11:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
"a young man who actually had a bead on the perp but didn't fire because of people behind him."

Exactly.

"Know your target and what is beyond it."

44 posted on 09/24/2013 12:16:08 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Why haven't we heard from the 30 Benghazi survivors?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Putting 10 more retired old men in the mall won’t solve the problem. Kicking all members of the ROP out of the country will.


45 posted on 09/24/2013 12:19:44 PM PDT by I want the USA back
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It will happen here. If anyone thinks this administration will act on any intelligence indicating this type of attack you are kidding yourselves.

Carry safe and always carry.

46 posted on 09/24/2013 12:20:51 PM PDT by Envisioning (It's the Jihad, stupid......)
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To: gaijin

added a couple extra for you....good listing.

1. hijack danger —> pilots got guns —> hijacks STOPPED

2. military base danger—> ??? —> military base shootings will stop

3. mall danger —> ?? —> mall shootings will stop

4. college danger -> ?? -> college shootings will stop

5. move danger -> ?? -> movie shootings will stop


47 posted on 09/24/2013 12:21:49 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: Last Dakotan
Wouldn’t it just be simpler if we all just learned the name of Mohammed’s mother?

I'm guessing it's not Mary.

48 posted on 09/24/2013 12:22:55 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (Still crazy after all these beers.)
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To: G Larry
Don’t let a sign get in the way of your self-defense!

Seriesley! Sines r 4 the edicated peeps.

49 posted on 09/24/2013 12:34:43 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: Veggie Todd
I'm guessing it's not Mary.

I heard it was Barack.

50 posted on 09/24/2013 12:34:50 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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