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Putin Depicts Russia as a Bulwark Against European Decadence
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 20 September 2013 | Stephen Fidler

Posted on 09/24/2013 4:34:26 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

Listen to Russian president Vladimir Putin these days and you’ll hear him depicting Russia as the last bulwark of conservative Christian values against the decadence of the rest of Europe.

Forgetting Christianity and the accompanying excess of political correctness is leading Europe to a deep moral crisis, he argued on Thursday at the annual Valdai Club conference at a lakeside resort north of Moscow. Russia, with its great history, literature and culture, will resist the tide.

He damned multiculturalism, which he called a legacy of colonialism that now even western European countries were beginning to see as a failure.

After being condemned internationally for promoting legislation that was aimed he said at protecting minors from homosexual propaganda, he suggested same-sex marriages were contributing to Europe’s low birth rate. “Europeans are dying out,” he said. “Same-sex marriages can’t produce children.” Silvio Berlusconi, the former Italian prime minister, wouldn’t be suffering his legal troubles if he’d been homosexual, Mr. Putin joked.

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1 posted on 09/24/2013 4:34:26 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

That’s exactly what the USSR did too. They called it “bourgeoise decadence” back then.


2 posted on 09/24/2013 4:36:41 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: MinorityRepublican

Putin’s got an open spot in the schedule as a stand up comic (humor being based on truth).


3 posted on 09/24/2013 4:36:44 PM PDT by Paladin2 (h)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Funny, ...Hitler said Germany was the Bulwark Against European Decadence


4 posted on 09/24/2013 4:40:36 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Keep in mind under Putin, "The Gulag Archipelago" is now required reading in Russian schools.

5 posted on 09/24/2013 4:43:56 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Olog-hai

Do you consider same-sex marriage to be a sign of decadence?


6 posted on 09/24/2013 4:45:01 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: MinorityRepublican

He has a point.


7 posted on 09/24/2013 4:47:48 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Olog-hai

With less justice.
Things were very bad in Soviet Russia, nor were they anywhere as bad in Europe as we see today.
The truth here is all a matter of degree.


8 posted on 09/24/2013 4:50:17 PM PDT by buwaya
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Statism is a strong tool against decadence when it’s decadence that’s being controlled.


9 posted on 09/24/2013 4:51:47 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

In that case, Europe is doomed!


10 posted on 09/24/2013 5:01:13 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MinorityRepublican; All

You can bet the same folks who support Communist China with Free Trade .....are the same ones whining the most about Putin

His critics are the Commies


11 posted on 09/24/2013 5:05:27 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Unemployment is so high...its getting harder for Obama to job people anymore)
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To: WilliamIII

I consider nonsequiturs as not contributing to a discussion. And as far as that goes, I’m waiting for the Kremlin to explicitly ban so-called “SSM”. The Kremlin instead repeating what the USSR said in the past does not help matters.

Take note that Putin, with respect to Silvio Berlusconi, did not condemn his activities with an underage girl.


12 posted on 09/24/2013 5:11:28 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: SeminoleCounty

Why then are Russia and China such strong partners in regards to military cooperation?


13 posted on 09/24/2013 5:12:15 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: buwaya
Conservative Americans are fighting against liberal decadence. It's a never ending battle against the filthy degenerates on the left.
14 posted on 09/24/2013 5:15:42 PM PDT by peeps36 (I'm Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags f All Colors)
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To: Olog-hai
Why then are Russia and China such strong partners in regards to military cooperation?

They're not. It's the equivalent of our "relationship" with the Soviet Union during WWII.

15 posted on 09/24/2013 5:52:59 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: dfwgator
Keep in mind under Putin, "The Gulag Archipelago" is now required reading in Russian schools.

Putin cares about Russia and the Russian people. And it shows. I wish Obama cared for the United States half as much...

16 posted on 09/24/2013 5:59:26 PM PDT by GOPJ (<P>Money flows to Washingto Politicians who fear the people seek to disarm them. - - Bill St. Clair)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

They are, and denying it will not help matters. They’ve been doing joint military exercises ever since 2007 at least, and they have strong economic and even parliamentary cooperation. They even restarted through freight rail service in August of this year.


17 posted on 09/24/2013 6:00:13 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: dfwgator

To be honest “Gulag” was already a part of school program in Russia about a decade before Putin.


18 posted on 09/24/2013 6:02:12 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: Olog-hai

>>>They are, and denying it will not help matters. They’ve been doing joint military exercises ever since 2007 at least, and they have strong economic and even parliamentary cooperation. They even restarted through freight rail service in August of this year.<<<

Can you distinguish between propaganda and facts?
Russian-Chinese relations are only a little better than it was in 1969 when they were shooting each other.
They may have restarted a single railway but US has hundreds of Chinese container ships in ports every day and what?
A tiny drills involving a few assets are nothing more than a smoke screen and a way to show off to each other.


19 posted on 09/24/2013 6:10:25 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

Yes, I can distinguish between propaganda and facts. You brought the propaganda; I brought the facts.


20 posted on 09/24/2013 6:13:05 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Well, a lack of critical thinking and analytical skills makes one stuck to some surface symbols, most of those might be decoys.

Last time I’ve check Russia hasn’t armed China with any advanced weapons and heavily opposes Chinese influence in Central Asia. And it is actually US spearheading Chinese interests in Asia. Who do you think a real winner in Afghanistan?.... Think harder. Also Chinese businesses aren’t buying Russian land and there are strong tariffs against Chinese imports.
At the same time Russia is leasing nuclear subs, co-develops a 5g combat aircraft and handing advanced missile technology to India which is a historic enemy of China.
Decoys I have told about are just a surface and it is carefully built by both Russian and Chinese governments to cool hatred of their people’s towards each other because governments don’t want to be at war right now.

It really strange if such a propaganda works better on some Americans than it is on Chinese or Russians who are a target group.

BTW, I’m yet to see a nuke some claim Russia “helping” Iran to make.


21 posted on 09/24/2013 6:34:36 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

I’d sure like to see your sources. This sounds a lot like the European Union propaganda that claimed the CIA was trying to “sabotage” Ireland’s re-vote on the Treaty of Lisbon.


22 posted on 09/24/2013 6:38:03 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

>>>This sounds a lot like the European Union propaganda that claimed the CIA was trying to “sabotage” Ireland’s re-vote on the Treaty of Lisbon.<<<

How is it any related?

What sources do you want?
Russian-Indian co-operation is well covered, you may simply Google it.
So does Russian-Chinese disputes.
Chinese interests in Asia and elsewhere are obvious as well.

Cui bono.

Do you want me to send you a link to some “respected” think-tank analysis who came to a same conclusion as I did? It is pity if you really want it because the one who wants opinions and don’t want to connect facts by himself is really lost as a free person. He wants others think for him.
It is actually how propaganda works on people.


23 posted on 09/24/2013 7:02:05 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

Being evasive undercuts the validity. Sounds like you fear having your sources judged.


24 posted on 09/24/2013 7:03:38 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Google Nerpa, Pak-Fa, Brahmos, Russian export tariffs on timber, anti-dumping laws for Chinese steel and vehicles etc.


25 posted on 09/24/2013 7:07:55 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: WilliamIII

About as repulsive as gay parades.


26 posted on 09/24/2013 7:49:23 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I refuse to say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: dfwgator

It should be required reading in US schools. I see our country’s future in it.


27 posted on 09/24/2013 7:54:02 PM PDT by gotribe (Vladimir Putin is MY President)
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To: GOPJ

“I wish Obama cared for the United States half as much...”

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Putin is a Russian and loves his country.

We’re not even sure where Obama is from and he is not telling because he must have something to hide.


28 posted on 09/24/2013 7:54:58 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I refuse to say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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