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Mass Shooting in Park stemmed from petty gang conflict
Chicago Tribune ^ | 25 sept 2013 | Jeremy Gorner and Lolly Bowean

Posted on 09/25/2013 3:01:55 AM PDT by rellimpank

Bryon Champ decided to seek quick revenge last week after he was grazed in the leg in a gang-related shooting, authorities say.

The convicted felon reached out to Kewane Gatewood, who for a few months had been hiding an AK-47-style rifle under his bed for Champ, according to authorities.

Just hours after he had been injured, Champ and Tabari Young, one armed with the assault rifle and the other toting a .22-caliber handgun, indiscriminately opened fire Thursday night at a crowded South Side park that they considered the turf of the rival gang, police and prosecutors alleged. In one of Chicago's most chilling mass shootings in recent history, a 3-year-old boy and a dozen others enjoying a warm evening in the waning days of summer lay wounded in Cornell Square Park in the Back of the Yards neighborhood.

Five days after the bloodshed, police and prosecutors on Tuesday laid out their narrative for how a seemingly petty gang dispute again painted the city as gripped by gun violence. What stood out about the attack as well was the use of a military-grade weapon, highly unusual for gang warfare in impoverished pockets of the South and West sides.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; chicago; guncontrol; obama; rkba; secondamendment
--appears that more of the Obama lookalike sons had a little dustup--
1 posted on 09/25/2013 3:01:56 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

Just some ‘community organizing’ going on, that’s all.


2 posted on 09/25/2013 3:03:26 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: rellimpank

If shooting 13 people is a petty conflict, what constitutes a serious conflict?


3 posted on 09/25/2013 3:11:17 AM PDT by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: rellimpank

What would the crime rate be in Chicago if you took out all shootings and other crimes by blacks?


4 posted on 09/25/2013 4:29:29 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012
You realize you're a racist for even asking that question.
5 posted on 09/25/2013 4:33:51 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Joe Brower

Of course, but I am curious. Why are so many blacks prone to crime? I think it’s an important question.


6 posted on 09/25/2013 4:40:02 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: rellimpank
They say it's a problem with the "gun culture"...it's a cultural problem, alright, but not the "gun culture".

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

7 posted on 09/25/2013 4:45:21 AM PDT by wku man (It's almost deer season, got your DEERGOGGLES on yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jexrnFq2fXY)
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To: ilovesarah2012
"Why are so many blacks prone to crime?"

This is a subject that luminaries like Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams have written about at length, and I highly recommend their essays on the subject.

But in a nutshell, the political left subverted the 'civil rights movement' back in the 1960s, and since then blacks have been merely cannon fodder for the collectivist movement -- taught from birth that being law-abiding and productive is just 'sucking up to whitey', that all their problems are somehow 'whitey's fault', and that a violent, stupid thug culture is 'keeping it real'. They have been a stagnant subculture for the last forty years, and getting progressively worse. Now we are plagued with legions of 'superpredators' bred by a broken family structure and too many 'black community leaders' who egg them on and excuse their every wrongdoing.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

8 posted on 09/25/2013 4:56:01 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Why are so many blacks prone to crime?

Welfare. In the ‘50’s the illegitimacy rate among blacks was even lower than among whites, now I think it's over 50%. There are no male role models in far too many black homes so they look elsewhere; to the gangs.

Since you don't need an education to get on the dole the mothers don't care about the kids’ school performance, figuring they will just be parasites like her.

If you don't have a job you need to go to it isn't a big problem if you spend some time in jail; the welfare check will be waiting for you when you get out.

9 posted on 09/25/2013 4:56:16 AM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of "gun free zones"?)
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To: rellimpank

Good thing we took God outoftheschools and men out of the families.

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10 posted on 09/25/2013 4:56:45 AM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: rellimpank
Wow, I sure hope Terry McCauliffe gets elected governor of Virginia, so he can get some "common sense gun laws" passed and help make my home as safe as Chicago!
11 posted on 09/25/2013 5:02:07 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: iowamark

That depends on the skin color of the combatants...


12 posted on 09/25/2013 5:03:10 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: rellimpank

A couple of years ago, Ben stein reported that, since 9-11, over 40,000 Americans have been killed in gang related violence. By now, it must be closer to 50,000.


13 posted on 09/25/2013 5:03:19 AM PDT by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: ilovesarah2012

As I see it, some factors:

Inadequate upbringing resulting in little self-discipline
No long term goals
Lots of idle time
Escapism in alcohol and drugs
Feelings of inadequacy and being (self-)disadvantaged
Little respect for parents’ teachings (if any of note)
Rejection of the larger society
Too much testosterone + too little self control


14 posted on 09/25/2013 5:52:32 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: rellimpank

So by being ‘gang related’ does that somehow negate that they are black?


15 posted on 09/25/2013 5:53:45 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Joe Brower
“being law-abiding and productive is just ‘sucking up to whitey’”

Very sad, when just doing what is RIGHT to seen as wrong.

16 posted on 09/25/2013 5:56:33 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: Max in Utah

So it basically comes down to the family unit which”progressives” want to destroy.


17 posted on 09/25/2013 6:14:50 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Joe Brower
The the weekly weather forecast:

CHICAGO

Via: http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/

18 posted on 09/25/2013 7:07:36 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: ilovesarah2012
it depends on which "blacks" -- for instance recent immigrants from the Carribbean or Africa who are untouched by African American culture here (or rather MODERN AA C) are not any more prone to crime than any other grouping of people

But those who drink deeply of that culture -- whether black OR white or whatever are prone to crime.

19 posted on 09/25/2013 7:11:37 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama’s dislike of Assad is not based on Assad’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I think you’d find the bottom 20-25% of the black population are responsible for the overwhelming percentage of black crime. Sterilization of the black underclass would do wonders for black Americans as well as the country.


20 posted on 09/25/2013 7:20:29 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: rellimpank

You gotta keep ‘em separated.


21 posted on 09/25/2013 7:21:37 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Cronos

My daughter has been to Uganda twice and has said blacks in Africa do not like American blacks. I can understand that.


22 posted on 09/25/2013 10:23:16 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

I have learned that a lot of American blacks don’t like African blacks either. Two very different cultures.


23 posted on 09/25/2013 11:41:02 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: logic101.net

Over 50%!!! I think it’s at 75%. Great Society my ass.


24 posted on 09/26/2013 2:45:48 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Altura Ct.

When I first saw the story I figgered it for an MS-13 initiation.


25 posted on 09/26/2013 2:47:04 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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