Skip to comments.Driverless cars coming but consumers not ready
Posted on 09/25/2013 5:26:59 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA
Drivers still need to be convinced to let go of the steering wheel and be taken to their destination, driver surveys say -- in spite of the fact that driverless technology is already in some cars. "I would say that most of what is going to come into these driverless cars is already there in present-day cars, for example night vision or lane departure warning [systems]," Prana Natarajan, team leader for Chassis & Safety at Frost & Sullivan.
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I’ve been ready for the last 3 years.
The prospect of my 15 year old son driving terrifies me, not because he’s irresponsible, but because he’s distractible...like me.
The local donut patrol and revenue squad aren’t ready for this! Can you imagine the huge drop in ticket revenue if driverless cars become common place.
So far, they are nothing more than a sophisticated cruise control, able to handle cruising on a non-complicated highway or street.
Will they be able to back you up out of your parking space in a mall, take you through the parking area to the access road, merge you into traffic, take you to your doctor’s office, navigate the parking area, park you safely?
Long way to go.
Great! Then big brother can just turn us off at the off ramp anytime they want to chat with us directly.
We’ll just be their slaves, even our cars’ steering will be under their ultimate control.
I can’t conceive of this being workable in a practical, congested-traffic situation.
And how many failures will it take to completely scare buyers away?
Of course, when you have an oppressive gov’t mandating what’s “best for you”, there may be no choice in the matter...
So, I’m guessing we’ll hear about a government program soon to provide those needy masses transportation they have a right to. The ObamaCar.....
As a motorcyclist, I am not happy about being put at risk of being run over by a driverless car.
Things are bad enough contending vehicles containing “responsible” operators - but when computers drive cars containing nothing but passengers, the excuse “but officer, I didn’t even SEE him” will take on a whole new meaning.
And they will be directed there by GPS.
How are driverless cars with pedestrians?
Good point. The reality is that self-driving vehicles are inevitable but will arrive in stages. The huge market is for trucks. With self-driving they can operate 24 hours per day hauling freight. Initially with a driver still attached for backup and to handle things like refueling, over time they’ll become fully automated. Cars will follow. Last will be passenger vehicles like buses, but mainly for the psychology.
> The local donut patrol and revenue squad arent ready for this! Can you imagine the huge drop in ticket revenue if driverless cars become common place.
No need to worry. The government will probably have an override hack built in there somewhere and will wheel you at 17 + mph right past their automated speeding cameras and right through some red light camera intersections at least twice a month on random days so you don’t catch on too quickly...: )
How agile are they?
I can’t imagine a car like that being able to cover for every contingency.
The Obama Car. I can just imagine.
- It comes out of nowhere.
- Needs a computer to tell it what to do.
- Keeps driving itself to the golf course.
- Blames someone else for its mistakes.
- Can only make a left turn.
Yeah I’ve had GPS directions that would driven me off the end of a bridge under repair and out of my way about 3 hours before. I wouldn’t trust it plus you know there will be overrides built in that they won’t tell you about. I can see the seatbelt locking and a siren going off inside as it drives me to the nearest IRS office because I haven’t paid my Obamacare premiums or penalties for the month yet.../s
I don’t want a driverless car!!! Technology and Society....this is where we hit a wall. There are just some things where I still like to have control and this is one of them.
Driverless cars are the future. If they can be perfected, we can eliminate traffic congestion.
And the inevitable glitches? Brings whole new meaning to “blue screen of death.”
I am certain that the lawyers are ready. The failures of these systems will likely be spectacular, and costly for the manufacturers. I work in the aircraft system certification business, and the auto industry isn’t nearly ready to handle the legal side of the autonomous vehicle system market.
You'll probably be safer with those than with somebody who "didn't see you".
What traffic congestion? There is no traffic congestion where I live.
In fact, I’d venture to say that the overwhelming majority of the roadway miles in the U.S. do not have traffic congestion.
Jesus, take the wheel...
When I was a kid “Knight Rider” was big but I always thought the technology of a car that drove itself was wasted in a trans am. I mean, seriously, you have to sit right there in the drivers seat anyway, you might as well drive. Now if they put it in an RV I was on board with that. “KITT, drive me to school. I’ll be in the shower.”
Officer: "Chief, so far I've got 4 drivers playing the new Grand Theft Auto, 5 drivers watching porn movies, and the three moms putting on make-up and texting, three seniors napping, and 7 drunk drivers insisting they never heard the car shouting "Mayday! Mayday! Take control!"
"Oh, and the lead car dash cam shows three deer appearing suddenly out of the blizzard.
"Sir, how do you want me to write this up?
The technology might be ready, but the question of liability will never allow it to become mainstream. When the driverless car gets into an accident, and it will, who is liable - the passenger? the owner? the manufacturer? the software company? IMHO, insurance will be impossible to get on a driverless car.
I can imagine a time when those driverless cars get linked into the local speed ordinances and frustrated drivers start hacking the system because it’s just taking too long.
And the cops will be waiting. They might even electronically lower the limit near their favorite speed traps ... I think I have a SF story to write here.
ala the movie Minority Report
That, and cyber terrorists can kill tons of folks in large cites with carefully orchestrated mass collisions.
I believe that an autonomous vehicle could be trained to do an excellent job of repetitive tasks, like commuting.
Rules included obeying all traffic regulations while negotiating with other traffic and obstacles and merging into traffic.
While the 2004 and 2005 events were more physically challenging for the vehicles, the robots operated in isolation and did not encounter other vehicles on the course, the Urban Challenge required designers to build vehicles able to obey all traffic laws while they detect and avoid other robots on the course. This is a particular challenge for vehicle software, as vehicles must make "intelligent" decisions in real time based on the actions of other vehicles.
Other than previous autonomous vehicle efforts that focused on structured situations such as highway driving with little interaction between the vehicles, this competition operated in a more cluttered urban environment and required the cars to perform sophisticated interactions with each other, such as maintaining precedence at a 4-way stop intersection."
I don’t see these being practical on a large scale unless we have designated lanes or even roadways on which only driverless vehicles are allowed and on which manual operation is prohibited.
My observations of traffic congestion is that, while some is caused by human error in driving, most of it is caused by poor design leading to insufficient capacity or to road construction. Taking the driver out of the equation doesn’t do diddly if there isn’t enough road for all the vehicles who want to travel, or if the exits are saturated into the lanes because the destinations can’t process the offcoming traffic.
What could possibly go wrong?
Great news. We get ever closer to the day forecast many years ago when machines will do everything for people. Just thing of it...machines will wake you up, feed you, wash you, dress you, take you out of your abode, put you in your vehicle. They’ll not only drive your car for you, they’ll do everything else. Including thinking for you. Isn’t it wonderful!!! (snicker)
just thinK of it ...not just thing of it.
Driving = Freedom. No thank you. I would rather have the technology guide you with warnings, etc. But I have seen computers, cars and car sensors fail way too many times to trust them with my life.
Other than for limited government, commercial and special passenger needs, I don’t think this will be particularly successful.
A good analogy is the A-10 Warthog aircraft and combat drone aircraft. The reason so many A-10s survived unbelievable damage in combat was because their pilots were very skilled, and could feel where problems were and adjust for them. Remote pilots and computers just could not do it as fast or well.
But, they explained, the combat drones were “expendable”...
And being “expendable”, while it might work in a drone car, facing off against other drone cars, is not something you might want in a drone-driven passenger car, facing off against unpredictable human driven cars.
Watching the movie Minority Report has forever made me terrified of the notion of self-driven cars—because this happens.
Great film, by the way. Based on the short story by Phillip K. Dick. Dick was a methamphetamine addict and noted paranoiac...but just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean that they are not, in fact, out to get your freedoms.
Based on the number of DUI arrests every weekend here, we are already well supplied with driverless cars.
And apparently, driver licenses, tags and insurance are only required for sober drivers.
“What traffic congestion? There is no traffic congestion where I live. In fact, Id venture to say that the overwhelming majority of the roadway miles in the U.S. do not have traffic congestion.”
Well, there’s plenty of traffic here in the DFW Metroplex, getting worse by the day with all the snowbirds relocating here. But, I’m off topic. I occasionally drive to El Paso and sometimes on to Tempe. Let me tell you that is a mind and butt numbing experience. I would welcome some driverless or automated technology for these drives for sure. Could take a nap, read my Kindle, heck maybe even make out a little with my sweetie (wife) lol!
Hell, just load up the vehicle with whatever WMD you like and send it downtown.
Good point. Imagine a driverless semi truck loaded with explosives on the Chicago Loop.