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Rick Perry: Shutting down government to defund Obamacare not a good option
Yahoo ^ | September 25, 2013 | Jeff Zeleny, Richard Coolidge, and Jordyn Phelps

Posted on 09/25/2013 6:44:18 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW

With a potential government shutdown looming in less than a week, Gov. Rick Perry of Texas said it would be “nonsensical” for his fellow Republicans to support any effort to bring government to a halt over the health care law.

“I don't think it's a good option,” Perry told “The Fine Print.” “There's still time to sit down and try to fix Obamacare.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cruz; governmentshutdown; obamacare; rickperry
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With this kind of support, who needs opposition? The Dems can just sit back and wait for Republicans to do the Dems dirty work.
1 posted on 09/25/2013 6:44:18 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW
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To: DJ MacWoW
I don't think it's a good option, either. But, it's the only one available, because the Democrats won't negotiate in good faith.
2 posted on 09/25/2013 6:47:07 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Which, sir, is why you didn’t get to first base in the GOP primaries.


3 posted on 09/25/2013 6:47:12 AM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Since when has the GOP elite been right about anything in the last 14 years anyway?


4 posted on 09/25/2013 6:47:53 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

“There’s still time to sit down and try to fix Nazism.”

You cannot “fix” the unfixable.


5 posted on 09/25/2013 6:48:09 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I like Perry but he did support the establishment candidate over Cruz in the election. He is wrong. Why do they only think in terms of fixing a bad legislation? How much fixing ever gets done in DC?


6 posted on 09/25/2013 6:48:11 AM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: DJ MacWoW

Perry is clearly the same assclown we saw 20 months ago. He will never be president.


7 posted on 09/25/2013 6:48:41 AM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: Mr. K

I agree but they’re slow and haven’t caught on yet.


8 posted on 09/25/2013 6:49:37 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Exactly who is clamoring to “fix” it, Gov? Never mind doing it over the next 5 days.

The value assessment here is this (aside from the obvious government control issues): what is going to do more harm, a temporary shutdown or the full implementation of the ACA? ACA will take billions out of the economy and (essentially) permanently place the government in a position where they cannot balance a budget. That’s why this is vital.


9 posted on 09/25/2013 6:50:38 AM PDT by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: montag813

“ole pointy boots” has turned out to be a big disappointment for Texas.


10 posted on 09/25/2013 6:50:48 AM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Republicans don’t seem to understand that you can’t make garbage smell like a rose garden.


11 posted on 09/25/2013 6:50:49 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: DJ MacWoW

At the very least, Ted is succeeding in smoking out the RINO vermin with his filibuster.


12 posted on 09/25/2013 6:51:40 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Fixing tyranny. More efficient Death Panels.


13 posted on 09/25/2013 6:51:41 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Ted Cruz for President!)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Ah. So now Obama's Press Corpse cares what Rick Perry thinks.

Hey, Yahoo, what does Perry think about Obamacare itself? What does Perry think about raising taxes? What does Perry think about expanding the size and scope of government?

Republicans will never figure this out.

The only time the dinosaur media cares what they say is when they say something that either supports Obama, whether it be the amount of golf he plays, or otherwise pulls the rug out from under fellow Republicans.

14 posted on 09/25/2013 6:51:48 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Didn’t Texas just shift their state retirees to Obamacare?


15 posted on 09/25/2013 6:51:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Well, add Perry to the Rove list for now.

What is it about Republicans the last few decades that make them so limited in their ability to fight?


16 posted on 09/25/2013 6:52:05 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

“Oops.” What a clown.


17 posted on 09/25/2013 6:53:18 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: DJ MacWoW

So Perry wants to “fix” Obamacare? Aye carumba...


18 posted on 09/25/2013 6:53:59 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: DJ MacWoW
“There's still time to sit down and try to fix Obamacare.”

He's becoming a Zeno's Paradox socialist. If each political step from the GOPe gets you halfway to socialism, they claim that you will never actual reach socialism.

19 posted on 09/25/2013 6:54:46 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Why is our military going to be used as Al Qaeda's air force in Syria?)
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Shutting down government to defund Obamacare not a good option...

Right there is your problem Perry... putting the word "defund" in the same breath as "shutting down". Nobody should be talking about shutting anything down. Everybody should talk about defunding. The feral government IS funded. The only ones speaking of shutting anything down is Reed (sick!) and 0' and the 'Rats, if they do not help pass the CR funding just about EVERYTHING, nor if they do not help pass, short of that, the single-issue spending bills sure to follow.

20 posted on 09/25/2013 6:55:04 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: DJ MacWoW

So the Democrat party should not shut down the government because of their devotion to Obamugabe’s Death Panels.


21 posted on 09/25/2013 6:56:14 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: C210N

Seems like if you can’t draw Perry a picture with stick men, he isn’t going to understand.


22 posted on 09/25/2013 6:56:36 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I think they have shut government down before.


23 posted on 09/25/2013 6:56:53 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: DJ MacWoW

That’s right, Rick Perry. Why don’t you call Harry Reid and let him know.


24 posted on 09/25/2013 6:58:20 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Thanks Perry, that was a very helpful comment. /s


25 posted on 09/25/2013 6:58:39 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: DJ MacWoW

So Rino Grahamnesty now is against Obamacare. What a laugh.

Newsmax

Sen. Graham: If Obamacare Succeeds, Hillary Will Be President
Wednesday, September 25, 2013 02:42 AM

By: Greg Richter

Amid coverage of the U.N. General Assembly and Sen. Ted Cruz’s marathon speech on the Senate floor, the missed story Tuesday was Hillary Clinton’s decision to “own” Obamacare, says Sen. Lindsey Graham.

Bill and Hillary Clinton are “selling it as hard as they can sell it,” Graham, R-S.C., said on Fox News Channel’s “On the Record with Greta Van Susteren.”

“I will never call it Obamacare anymore,” Graham said. “I’m going to call it Clintoncare.”

Hillary Clinton defended Obamacare during a panel discussion at the Clinton Global Initiative in Manhattan, calling those trying to defund it a “noisy minority,” Politico reports.


26 posted on 09/25/2013 6:59:18 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: A CA Guy

Self-interest. You don’t get rich going to DC by opposing the agenda.


27 posted on 09/25/2013 6:59:53 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: DJ MacWoW

The truth is it’s Obama who is threatening to shut down government to save Obamacare. That all these Pubs accept their opponents definition shows how stupid and whipped they are.


28 posted on 09/25/2013 7:03:49 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: DJ MacWoW

Shutting down Obamacare is the desire of The American people.

Shutting down Military pay is the goal of Obama, Reid and Pelosi.

The litmus test for future membership in THE NEW REPUBLICAN PARTY is lack of fear of being blamed for trying to shutdown Obamacare.

Gov. Perry by showing his fear of being blamed for shutting down Obamacare has chosen to stay in the Old-Style Republican Party, the obsolete Surrender Republican Party.

Thanks for eliminating yourself, Gov. Perry, from being considered a Conservative opponent to Obamacare.


29 posted on 09/25/2013 7:05:02 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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“There’s still time to sit down and try to fix Obamacare.”

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Naive fool. Another idiot Republican who thinks he can compromise with Democrats.


30 posted on 09/25/2013 7:09:15 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: DJ MacWoW

Cornyn has to go. Glad Perry is soon gone.


31 posted on 09/25/2013 7:09:59 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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What each state is proposing as to handling the Market Place with the Affordable Care Act, state
controlled, Federal Control or some mixture. The following link gives the current status of each state.

State Health Insurance Exchange: State Run Exchanges


32 posted on 09/25/2013 7:11:39 AM PDT by deport
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To: DJ MacWoW

La Raza Rick Perry is cut from the exact same open borders and free medical care for illegals cloth as Rubio.

He isn’t a good answer for anything.


33 posted on 09/25/2013 7:12:09 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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Right there is your problem Perry... putting the word “defund” in the same breath as “shutting down”.
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Perry incorrectly conflates the two issues. He gets easily confused as we all know.


34 posted on 09/25/2013 7:12:26 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: DJ MacWoW

that statement will come back to haunt Rick Perry re his presidential aspirations


35 posted on 09/25/2013 7:16:19 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: DJ MacWoW

Realistically, there were only two chances to stop 0bamacare. National Federation of Independent Business v. Sebelius was one, the electoral defeat of 0bama was the other. Now the damn thing has become, as Harry Reid says “the law of the land” and it’s going to be so entrenched in American society that it cannot ever be dug out.

Just like
Social Security
Medicare
Medicaid
Food Stamps
Head Start
Pell Grants
HUD Housing
No Child Left Behind

I applaud Ted Cruz for what he’s doing, and even if only as a matter of principle every member of the GOP should stand with him. The fact that something bad is going to happen doesn’t mean you have to go along with it. Wrong is wrong.

But, alas, after the twin losses last year, I see where this country is going and I don’t like it.


36 posted on 09/25/2013 7:16:27 AM PDT by henkster (democrats will sacrifice the lives of our servicemen so 0bama doesn't look bad.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

The GOP caved and allowed carve-outs for Congressional staffers (via subsidies)
Why? because the GOP wanted exemptions for their staffers ,too.
Which GOP senators were opposing their staffers from being exempted?


37 posted on 09/25/2013 7:17:47 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Rick Perry, buh - buh. Doofus.


38 posted on 09/25/2013 7:20:00 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Obama is an historic President. He's America's first 'Dear Leader' President.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I think its a poor option myself but what choice do they have? If something is not done soon Deathcare will be so firmly entrenched it will be really hard to get rid of it. Then when it collapses as it surely will we will all be forced onto a single payer system.


39 posted on 09/25/2013 7:20:37 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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Hey RICK!

So tell Harry and Barack to pass the House Bill and tell them NOT TO SHUT DOWN THE Gov’t!


40 posted on 09/25/2013 7:21:54 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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That was Romney and the Republican party’s problem too. They only wanted their unconstitutional plan instead of Obama’s unconstitutional plan.


41 posted on 09/25/2013 7:24:39 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Then tell Obama not to do it, Stupid Rick.


42 posted on 09/25/2013 7:24:47 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Sans-Culotte

they voted against it and then they vote to fund it.

That is how stupid the establishment is.


43 posted on 09/25/2013 7:24:58 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Fix obamacare?! NO, you scrap it and start with a plan consistent with the constitution and capktalism. Dammit Gov. Rick, what a disappointment you don’t get this.


44 posted on 09/25/2013 7:27:17 AM PDT by Made In The USA (I'm not yelling, just... just talking enthusiastically..)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I was a strong supporter of Rick Perry but I part ways with him on this issue. I’ll be rallying around Ted Cruz in 2016.


45 posted on 09/25/2013 7:28:48 AM PDT by jersey117
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I am a Palin supporter but liked Perry. This is very disappointing.


46 posted on 09/25/2013 7:31:48 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: LS
"Which, sir, is why you didn't get to first base in the GOP primaries."

OTOH, the man that got to home base in the GOP primary had previously implemented Obamacare in Mass.

47 posted on 09/25/2013 7:32:24 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin; LS

He got there through cheating. We had FReeper eye-witness accounts of that. I wish that I had bookmarked the posts. The surrender monkeys in the GOP hand picked him just like they did McCain.


48 posted on 09/25/2013 7:36:45 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: DJ MacWoW

When the source is Yahooooo, not much truth is required and quotes are usually taken out of context. Shutting down the government in less than a permanent fashion is probably never a good option, but there may not be a better one on the table.


49 posted on 09/25/2013 7:37:57 AM PDT by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Evidently he didn’t cheat enough because he lost to Obama.


50 posted on 09/25/2013 7:41:31 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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