Skip to comments.Fate of Obamacare Controlled by Republicans -- Period
Posted on 09/25/2013 8:02:49 AM PDT by Kaslin
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No longer the case as Bammy continues as a Dicktater.
The Pubbies will cry, “but we don’t have the votes!”.
The d’s don’t control the House, which is essential to all that happens.
You don’t see them saying they don’t have the votes.
Why is not Boehner doing a Reid saying, “anything that funds obamacare is DOA?”
Because they don’t have the guts. They are not unified.
This is of course what Cruz is saying, rightly.
And NOT Ted Cruz. They are all on record as saying he has no control Hell take the win, though, if he gets it, if he doesn’t, people will turn to him when their monthly bill increases by $600 or so, and no one buys anything but groceries
You must ask yourself; “Who benefits from Obamacare?” And another which is being ignored is why “If you oppose Obamacare you are Racist.”
Quod erat demonstrandum
Ummm....I’m pretty sure the Democrats get to vote on it too.
I could be wrong....
This looks like a “people are overawed by evil” problem to me.
Sometimes it takes a school of hard knocks to get through people’s heads that yes, when you stick with God, you get hurled into some nasty battles but you also win.
And sometimes dire necessity is the only thing that will get people to try that approach. To put it in a more purely spiritual plane... the fear of hell can’t get anybody to heaven, but it can get them to the point where they endeavor to make amends with heaven (at which point they find it surprisingly easy... the cross already did the tough stuff).
Anyhow, Obama “care” is the political hell that God has set up here to inspire people to look for heaven again. IMHO.
and a few freepers will still blame it on Cruz. lol
The government’s to blame. The Republicans are to blame. For everything since FDR. Yup.
Who pays their salaries? Who keeps sending them money to stuff their own pockets, and to give away to cronies and moochers?
Would that Congressional leaders were willing to have that attitude and sell it to the American people. Go Cruz. Go Lee. Go Good Guy Party!
Actually annihilating the law would need that. However if the GOP decided it was going to get whineproof and just didn’t lend its hand to doling out any more funds to Obama “care” ... well first there would be the sulphurous clouds of the usual doom and gloom Democrat lies... then if the GOP stood fast, reports would start coming in about how all these reprieves from the monster have made the economy more optimistic, and what’s left of private health care is actually rallying. I say GOP, dig in there. Don’t lend your hand to what is manifestly wrong. God rewards what is right.
“So the question is this: Why would House Republicans abandon their current principled position and go ahead and fund Obamacare?
In general terms, this answer is also simple: They will only do it if they believe that for enacting legislation to fund Obamacare they will get something they value even more in return.”
The answer is money, power, sex, or media attention. These are the things used in DC to control our elected representatives. Money works for most. The cost of running a campaign is so high it all but the wealthiest representatives of the people must sell out to the special interests who provide the big campaign money. Others fall to the opportunity to engage in sex with the beautiful men and women who hang around the powerful and then are subject to blackmail. Others, are addicted to power and must do the bidding of the power structure to acquire and retain power. Finally, there are the egomaniacs like McCain and Graham who love to be on television. To be a regular on the weekly talk show circuit they must toe the line of the media bosses who choose the featured guests on the shows.
Essentially they will abandon principle to take care of their interests.
If the republicans refuse to fund Obamacare, Justice Roberts will just declare their actions unconrtitutional anyway.
Anything that has a negative effect on King Obama’s self esteem is not allowed in the United States Of Obama.
Well actually annihilating it might not even need Democrats. If GOP paralyzed it until the next presidential election, the salutary results could result in a landslide.
Elephants are bigger than donkeys, fellas... I recall vaguely where the donkey iconography came from. It was a political cartoon by, IIRC, Nast. Where a man in a donkey suit (or something like that) managed to frighten a vastly larger elephant. It was actually meant to display the cowardice of the GOP of the time. The Donk party actually treated that kind of morally false victory as a badge of honor. About time to bring them some reality and STOMP, ye elephants!
Maybe instead of sitting on your behind in the 2012 election you should have been voting for the Republican senator in your state. Not voting or voting for a third party candidate, who has zero chances to win doesn't help. You need to stop whining and do everything you can so we can take the senate back
BTW You are doing exactly what you accuse the Republicans of doing. This is called Projection
Still, we thank the good Lord if we need a spare and that’s the one we got. Sure we have to go at 50 mph till we get it fixed and that’s a bummer. But it was better than being stranded and maybe robbed or perish in the elements.
I know of no method to secure the repeal of bad or obnoxious laws so effective as their stringent execution.
What is worth keeping 0bamacare alive? To the House Republicans, it is the fear that they will be blamed for a government shutdown. It is the fear that they will lose their precious seats in Congress.
In other words, they, as does EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF CONGRESS, love their jobs more than they love their country. Not one of them will do the right thing if they believe it will cost them their seat in Congress.
Done deal. Period. End of statement.
Pardon slow me, but I don’t comprende.
We are talking about refusing to lend the GOP yes to funding. It’s that easy if the GOP can get past the balogna. Hey Weeper, by all means keep on weeping, but weep for the sad state of US healthcare that will exist if Obama “care” gets its full way.
The Republicans hold the majority in the house. They can reject whatever the senate sends back to them. They do not need to pass a bill funding obamacare period! Terry Jeffrey is a solid constitutional conservative. If the house does not fund it, it does not get funded. All the president and senate can do is throw a hissy fit and issue threats. And they are.
Well that is an alternative approach, but the GOP isn’t going to want to do that. After all, not all GOP are devils.
If Mitch votes for Cloture, HE OWNS IT!
"There is strength in my legs a little longer." - Ted Cruz, a man among men.
"I want to cut and run" - Mitch "Pussy" McConnell
And Jim, the Lord will stand up Himself for the right thing. Obamacare does not exalt the God of blessing at all. It exalts petty little self centered bureaucrats and a snickering Satan that is lurking in the corner.
Tell the pussycat to get a lion heart and hang in there....
1856-Whig party dissolves over slavery, immigration
This article is going to my Rep immediately. He claims to be for defunding 0bombacare. Now his feet are going to the fire.
Keepers of the flame:
Maybe instead of sitting on your behind in the 2012 election you should have been voting for the Republican senator in your state.”
WTF are you talking about, and why did you immediately make this personal? I have never voted for any third party candidate.
This is kind of stupid of him to do so, as he faces reelection in Kentucky next year, but at least he is honest, unlike the RINO senator of Tennessee Lamar Alexander who pretends to be against 0bamacare
Obamacrap not a good enough reason for a split?
Sorry, but Obamacare is self-appropriating, i.e. the appropriations are in the original bill, precisely to avoid the current political situation where republicans control one or two of the House, Senate or Prez. All three must agree to stop the existing self-appropriations.
ah, the simple, unadorned truth. it’s a blessing to here it now and then. they could have stopped it any time after 2010 had they wanted to.
You can add Sen Jeff Sessions. Even that amnesty guy (Boo!) in Florida Rubio is standing up with Cruz against obamacare. But don’t really trust him or Paul. Both are unreliable as conservatives, even if they do the right thing on this.
Obamacare: Besides the military, the only budget area where democrats express phony concerned about “fiscal responsibility”.
When the Republicans let “0”Care happen they will then own the Train Wreck instead of the Dems. A double win for the Lib/Pros.
If Boehner was being the least bit honest, that assessment would be correct. But they're being offered something, and we don't know what it is. If we knew, we would not approve.
SCOTUS didn’t follow the Constitution McCain. So the Repubs should vote this thing down!
if obamacare is 100% self-appropriating, then there should be no battle now.
“This $23.6 billion is part of the $105.5 billion appropriated by the last Congress to fund Obamacare. The remainder (Think of it as post-dated checks for the other $81.9 billion.) automatically becomes available between now and FY2019.” - See more at: http://www.askheritage.org/has-obamacare-already-begun-implementation/#sthash.aP22sGvX.dpuf
I would prefer a purge in the 2013 GOP of the spineless national (and some states) party leadership and a takeover by small government, personal liberty, states’ rights people.
However, our divide today is over similar issues to the 1856 blowup of the Whigs; tax slavery, regulatory slavery, debt slavery and immigration. Add in legislation without representation by the unelected bureaucracy having the force of law and today’s problem statement is fairly complete.
Yes but far more Democrats will support Obamacare than Republicans.
The house has the power of the purse.
As Cruz said on Limbaugh...the GOP govern by fear, fear that they will lose their congressional power in 2014 elections if they are blamed for shutting down the government.
they underestimate conservative Americans and think we are incapable of critical independent thinking.
Republicans will lose because they have alienated the true patriots left in this country who will rally behind a candidate who remembers and preaches the values that founded this country...
acting on fear always leads to defeat...and defeated they will be especially if they manage to avoid a government shutdown by abandoning conservatives to the death panels of Obamacare.
(Would that politicians would fear the loss of OUR freedom...rather than the loss of their privileged jobs....)
Since there is ample evidence that years ago our elected representatives cease to represent the “will of the people” .... is there any way to put this whole mess up for a public vote?