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Senate votes 100-0 to move ahead on debate over Obamacare
Los Angeles Times ^ | 09/25/2013 | Lisa Mascaro

Posted on 09/25/2013 10:54:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Edited on 09/25/2013 11:03:36 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

The Senate easily overcame Wednesday’s first hurdle to a fizzling GOP strategy to strip funding for President Obama’s healthcare law in exchange for keeping the government running.

Top Republicans are now for a new — more modest — way to chip away at the Affordable Care Act.


(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: 113th; bhohealthcare; budget; cruz; mcconnell; obamacare; reid; senate; tedcruz
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To: SeekAndFind
UNAffordable Care Act
21 posted on 09/25/2013 11:08:02 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: colorado tanker
Cruz voted for this? So, what was the point? I have an uncomfortable feeling this whole thing was about maximum TV time for Cruz and a possible Presidential run. From what I'm seeing here, it's working.

Wow. Just. WOW. It would behoove you to get the facts before commenting.

22 posted on 09/25/2013 11:08:42 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: SeekAndFind
The rare 100-0 vote to end this first round of debate showed how eager senators were to move the bill forward.

Not possible. After filibustering well into the night, Ted Cruz, at a MINIMUM, would not have voted to move the debate forward. I call super-BS on this article!!

23 posted on 09/25/2013 11:08:55 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for the American politburo!!)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Look at FR today. All we're doing is fighting each other, and not the Dems. The fact is we can't repeal Obamacare with only control of the House. When people sat on their hands and refused to vote for Romney they lost the chance for repeal.

As long as we are this divided we have no chance to win the Senate or the Presidency. Or repeal Obamacare.

24 posted on 09/25/2013 11:09:05 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker
The house can certainly NOT fund it.

That will be enough.

You aren't going to get unity as long as the GOP puts liberals up for office. Some of us won't vote for a liberal(R). That's just the way life is.

/johnny

25 posted on 09/25/2013 11:11:57 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: MissNomer

cloture is a vote to end the debate they just voted to have. Ending the debate leads to the simple 51 member vote that passes an amendment stripping the defunding of ACA out of the house bill. It takes 60s votes to stop debate.


26 posted on 09/25/2013 11:12:17 AM PDT by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: piytar

Update: Coburn is up now.

Cloture vote will be on Friday or Saturday, according to Cruz on Rush.

He asked us to get three people to sign the petition. How hard is that?

Cruz asked us to keep calling senators, to vote “NO” on cloture. How hard is that?


27 posted on 09/25/2013 11:12:47 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: mrsmith

Senate rules are confusing by design.


28 posted on 09/25/2013 11:12:54 AM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: MissNomer

“Can you explain the cloture issue for me, if you have time, or point me to a good explanation?”

Nope LOL!

However in regards to just this bill there are only two cloture votes: one to proceed to debate (the one that just happened) and one to end debate which will come Saturday or possibly Friday- or even Sunday.

That vote to end debate will mean that the Senate must then proceed to vote on the bill and any amendments pending.
One of the amendments pending will be from Harry Reid and it will be an “amendment in the nature of a substitute” or an “amendment to strike” which will replace the language of the House bill.
There will be no further cloture vote so Harry’s new bill (funding Obamacare and any other thing he wants) will pass with 51 votes.

That’s why Cruz wants to filibuster that second vote


29 posted on 09/25/2013 11:14:47 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: colorado tanker

THANK YOU!!!! Your words bear repeating over and over...

Look at FR today. All we’re doing is fighting each other, and not the Dems. The fact is we can’t repeal Obamacare with only control of the House. When people sat on their hands and refused to vote for Romney they lost the chance for repeal.

As long as we are this divided we have no chance to win the Senate or the Presidency. Or repeal Obamacare.


30 posted on 09/25/2013 11:15:45 AM PDT by marychesnutfan
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To: colorado tanker

What you are seeing here is a Senator doing what he was elected to do, representing the PEOPLE, any way he can, using Senate rules dictated by Reid and the Democrats.


31 posted on 09/25/2013 11:15:46 AM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: cotton1706

so doesn’t this open the bill up to debate and proposed ammendments from the floor? I’d think that’s better than no debate.


32 posted on 09/25/2013 11:16:15 AM PDT by grania
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To: MissNomer

http://www.senate.gov/reference/glossary_term/cloture.htm


33 posted on 09/25/2013 11:16:59 AM PDT by deport
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To: mrsmith

Thanks for the info.


34 posted on 09/25/2013 11:21:24 AM PDT by matt04
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To: DoughtyOne

The biggie is later on.


35 posted on 09/25/2013 11:22:12 AM PDT by Mozilla
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To: colorado tanker
when people refused to vote for Romney...

The facts don't bear that out. The RINOs are backstabbing Cruz and the others every chance they get. They're in backrooms working for Obamacare. McCain hasn't been with constituional conservatives once. We're better off with less Republican Senators, but constituional conservatives who actually believe their campaign rhetoric and can bring the case to the American people.

I'd rather word it "if the ptb in the Republican Party ran a presidential candidate who is a true constituional candidate, we wouldn't be in this mess. Next time around, there are some choices.

36 posted on 09/25/2013 11:22:16 AM PDT by grania
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To: marychesnutfan

Amen!


37 posted on 09/25/2013 11:23:05 AM PDT by matt04
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To: grania

As majority leader, Reid has the right of first recognition and will “fill the amendment tree” which means he’ll propose a bunch of amendments to the number limit so nobody else can propose any amendments.

This is what Cruz was talking about. No debate, no opportunity for amenement, just raw power. Reid disallows any changes, then comes cloture, then Reid proposes an amendment to strike after cloture is achieved, which will require a simple majority for passage. The amendment passes, no other amendments will be allowed, then the vote on the bill and back to the House with Obamacare defunding stripped.

This is why a vote for cloture is a vote for funding Obamacare.


38 posted on 09/25/2013 11:23:10 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: colorado tanker

At least we have someone who is fighting and publicizing the battle. This is the first time that we at least have some front row comversation regarding this issue. Well, other that McCain and Graham waving the white flag. you know it is going to pass anyway so why fight.

Glad McCain wasn’t around during WWII during the battle of the bulge or we would be speakig German right now.


39 posted on 09/25/2013 11:25:04 AM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country)
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To: grania

“open the bill up to... proposed ammendments from the floor?”

There are rules about what amendments can be proposed.

I believe, am not sure yet, that Harry has proposed all the amendments that can be offered already -a process called “filling the amendment tree” which he has done 10 or 20 as many times as any other Majority Leader (the Majority gets to propose amendments first).

So, I believe no, there won’t be any amendments.

(Isn’t Senate procedure and the media that hides it grand?)


40 posted on 09/25/2013 11:26:32 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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