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Senate votes 100-0 to move ahead on debate over Obamacare
Los Angeles Times ^ | 09/25/2013 | Lisa Mascaro

Posted on 09/25/2013 10:54:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Edited on 09/25/2013 11:03:36 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

The Senate easily overcame Wednesday’s first hurdle to a fizzling GOP strategy to strip funding for President Obama’s healthcare law in exchange for keeping the government running.

Top Republicans are now for a new — more modest — way to chip away at the Affordable Care Act.


(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: 113th; bhohealthcare; budget; cruz; mcconnell; obamacare; reid; senate; tedcruz
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To: SeekAndFind

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=1&vote=00205

U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 113th Congress - 1st Session

as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of
the Secretary of the Senate

Vote Summary

Question: On the Cloture Motion (Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Motion to Proceed to H.J.Res. 59 )

Vote Number: 205
Vote Date: September 25, 2013, 12:55 PM

Required For Majority: 3/5
Vote Result: Cloture Motion Agreed to
Vote Counts:
YEAs 100
NAYs 0


41 posted on 09/25/2013 11:26:45 AM PDT by deport
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To: grania
I like the new tactic Cruz is using. All the way back to the 80's, establishment Republican's loved conservatives but would never return the favor in-kind. John Warner (VA Senator) actually recruited an independent to run for Senate when Ollie North got the nomination.

They hate us - it's time to move on without them ...

42 posted on 09/25/2013 11:26:50 AM PDT by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: cotton1706
Okay, so then the HOR gets that bill and it's still not law, is it? At that point, can't the HOR send the US Senate one bill at a time, each funding separate things?

I think what Cruz did is got a lot of normal citizens involved. Can the US Senate really vote against the Defense bill (etc) with the deadline looming?

One takeaway from the filubuster this AM is that Cruz is a real lot smarter than is Harry Reid. The differnece is like what I'd imagine if Putin and Obama played a chess match.

43 posted on 09/25/2013 11:28:34 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

I am really hoping that is what they do but I don’t know. It sounds pretty complicated.


44 posted on 09/25/2013 11:33:39 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: mrsmith

Yes, Cruz wants it Friday when we are able to see it all develop, but knowing Reid, that snake, he’ll have it Saturday when we won’t be as vigilant.


45 posted on 09/25/2013 11:38:18 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

His most powerful weapon is the media that covers up what he’s doing and misreports what Cruz is doing.

I bet the only thing media watchers know of what Cruz actually said in those 18 or however many hours is that he read “Green Eggs and Ham”.


46 posted on 09/25/2013 11:38:56 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: grania

“Okay, so then the HOR gets that bill and it’s still not law, is it? At that point, can’t the HOR send the US Senate one bill at a time, each funding separate things?
I think what Cruz did is got a lot of normal citizens involved. Can the US Senate really vote against the Defense bill (etc) with the deadline looming?”

No, it’s not law, still a bill. And yes, the House can send bills to the senate one bill at a time, but in the mean time, the other parts of the government would be shut down until individual bills or a composite bill is/are passed and signed. This is what the republicans are afraid of. And why Reid and the senate did not pass a budget for four years so the government could run on continuing resolutions and these scary deadlines can keep coming.

Keep in mind that even if the Senate passed the current CR (with or without Obamacare), the funding would last only till December, when we get to do this all over again, with the threat of the Christmas recess. See the game?? Graves original bill in the House called for funding for a year, Boehner, etc. changed it to three months.


47 posted on 09/25/2013 11:39:40 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: mrsmith
His most powerful weapon is the media that covers up what he’s doing and misreports what Cruz is doing.

I bet the only thing media watchers know of what Cruz actually said in those 18 or however many hours is that he read “Green Eggs and Ham”.


Yep, and they won't include the video of how he still managed to keep it on topic by using the story as an illustration of trying to convince the people that they like Obamacare when they don't.
48 posted on 09/25/2013 11:40:57 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: SeekAndFind

PEOPLE RELAX. VOTING AGAINST THIS VOTE TO OPEN DEBATE IS A VOTE AGAINST THE CR (posturing).


49 posted on 09/25/2013 11:47:38 AM PDT by struggle
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To: cotton1706

So Boehner is smart enough to know when his back’s against the wall?


50 posted on 09/25/2013 11:50:05 AM PDT by grania
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To: Mozilla

Agreed...


51 posted on 09/25/2013 11:51:42 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: lucky american

I think there should be a Monty Python clip of some sorts to explain the process:

“We have a vote to decide whether to vote on an issue requiring another vote to proceed and pass, or to vote on whether or not to vote for continuing debate, and then voting at some point in the future to have another vote on whether or not to vote on ending debate and voting to proceed and pass or voting to continue debate.”

eh, something like this.


52 posted on 09/25/2013 11:53:13 AM PDT by parksstp
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m still trying to grasp how somebody could conceivably call this a GOP plot when the Vote was 100-0?


53 posted on 09/25/2013 11:54:25 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: grania

Boehner and Reid are in cahoots.


54 posted on 09/25/2013 11:56:44 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: colorado tanker

See Post #3


55 posted on 09/25/2013 11:57:07 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: colorado tanker; Jim Robinson

“...I have an uncomfortable feeling this whole thing was about maximum TV time for Cruz...”
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Are you one of those low information voters?


56 posted on 09/25/2013 11:58:04 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
And so many freepers buy into it.

That is because too many freepers lack reading comprehension!
57 posted on 09/25/2013 12:10:55 PM PDT by TexanByBirth (Free Republic: where they may agree with the message, but they love to shoot the messenger!)
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To: Repeal The 17th

No. What Cruz is doing has no chance of success but sure is getting him a lot of TV time. Plus, overnight he has become the darling of FR and other conservatives without actually accomplishing anything. He won’t be up for reelection for years but wants the House Republicans, who are up for reelection next year, to take the political heat for him. That sets off my antennae.


58 posted on 09/25/2013 12:30:53 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: MissNomer
This vote was to begin debate. The cloture vote is to end debate.

Cruz is fighting the cloture vote since after cloture, amendments can be added before a final vote. Reid has promised he would allow only one amendment: to re-instate funding of Obamacare.

The vote to end cloture takes 60 votes. The vote on the bill (with Reid's amendment) would be simple majority. The Republicans have the number to block cloture but not the bill vote; if they have the spine.

59 posted on 09/25/2013 12:38:27 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: cotton1706

Very well explained


60 posted on 09/25/2013 12:55:48 PM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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