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Aussies shine light on TWA flight 800
wnd ^ | Jack Cashill

Posted on 09/25/2013 6:49:01 PM PDT by yldstrk

evidence points to an accidental strike by the U.S. Navy. Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/09/aussies-shine-light-on-twa-flight-800/#7rTISaLIIsYHh8gV.99

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


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oh lord, we shot down our own plane, the down side of heat seeking missiles
1 posted on 09/25/2013 6:49:01 PM PDT by yldstrk
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To: yldstrk

If that is true, wow.


2 posted on 09/25/2013 6:50:55 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: yldstrk

It was either that, or Al Qaeda. I’ll take this one as the better of the two options, frankly.


3 posted on 09/25/2013 6:51:34 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: yldstrk

How long before the Clinton apologists chime in?


4 posted on 09/25/2013 6:53:18 PM PDT by stboz
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To: Lazamataz

I think an Israeli El Al plane was scheduled to
be in that position, or due along in a moment or two.
Hence, if there was a missile strike (likely), then
my money is on terrorism.

And, of course, we know that the government always
says there is no such thing as terrorism.

(But, by denying the air strike was terrorism, the
government effectively disarms that kind of terror;
if no plane will ever be admitted to have been shot
down, then there is no point in shooting them down.
The terrorists will have to look elsewhere to get
their moment in the news.)


5 posted on 09/25/2013 6:55:41 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: yldstrk

It was a center fuel tank explosion...yeah......riiiiiight


6 posted on 09/25/2013 6:55:51 PM PDT by citizen (There is always free government cheese in the mouse trap.....https://twitter.com/kracker0)
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To: yldstrk

So how many US sailors on that ship?

And the odds of 100% ability to cover up?


7 posted on 09/25/2013 6:57:05 PM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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To: nascarnation

ya got me


8 posted on 09/25/2013 6:58:20 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk
a heat seeker would have hit an engine not the body of the plane... that's what they do is seek the hottest heat source, and that was not the fuselage
9 posted on 09/25/2013 6:58:24 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: yldstrk

But...But...what difference does it make???


10 posted on 09/25/2013 7:04:03 PM PDT by Palio di Siena (Obama loves the USA like OJ loved Nicole)
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To: yldstrk

Discussion from 2002

Reed Irvine

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/619690/posts


11 posted on 09/25/2013 7:04:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: Jonty30

If that is true, wow.
++++++++++++
That has always been the leading hypothesis followed closely by the possibility of an intentional terrorist missile attack.

I’ve always believe it was an accidental launch by the Navy.


12 posted on 09/25/2013 7:04:47 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: yldstrk

The least likely scenario of all. Center fuel tank explosion is more likely than this. Too many people to keep quiet. Didn’t happen that way


13 posted on 09/25/2013 7:04:54 PM PDT by Figment
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To: Palio di Siena

hillary will burn in hell, hope being a rich powerful ugly person in this life was worth it


14 posted on 09/25/2013 7:05:16 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

If Im not mistaken I THINK I remember someone’s having said they had taken photos of the event....and were forced to give up their negatives and the prints they had made from same [ back in the almost all film era of photography]


15 posted on 09/25/2013 7:05:16 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: nascarnation

“And the odds of 100% ability to cover up?”

Zero. It was either a terrorist attack, or the center fuel tank, and I doubt the fuel tank


16 posted on 09/25/2013 7:07:15 PM PDT by Figment
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To: yldstrk

More articles on TWA-800

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/twa800/index?tab=articles


17 posted on 09/25/2013 7:07:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: Figment

I totally agree, and WND is so often bogus.


18 posted on 09/25/2013 7:08:31 PM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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To: DoughtyOne

More articles on TWA Flight 800

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=all;o=time;q=quick;s=twa%20flight%20800


19 posted on 09/25/2013 7:08:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: nascarnation
So how many US sailors on that ship?

And the odds of 100% ability to cover up?

Word leaked out about the USS Liberty. But people don't hear what they don't want to hear.

In the godless USSA, government is GOD. Who are you gonna' believe? The people who saw a missile shoot down that plane? Or God?

20 posted on 09/25/2013 7:09:15 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: yldstrk

This is what I was pretty confident had happened since a few months after the event.

They should have come clean and taken their lumps.

We’ll see if this is born out over time. If so, Bill Jeff and a passel of liars need to go to Fort Leavenworth. Do not pass GO. Do not collect $200 dollars.

Kahlstrom, you fat ——, I do so hope you get yours, the just rewards, if you were doing what I think you were.


21 posted on 09/25/2013 7:09:47 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: nascarnation

That’s usually my first thought about these theories. How many people would have to say nothing, and for how many years? It defies logic and human nature. Still, it could happen....just very unlikely IMO.


22 posted on 09/25/2013 7:10:26 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: yldstrk
When Kosik asked my opinion, I said, “Well, unlike what Jim says, there were 270 eyewitnesses to a missile strike, 96 of them, this is FBI eyewitnesses, saw it from the horizon ascend all the way up to the plane.

The eye witnesses said they saw a fiery trail up to the plane. Since the plane would have been at the edge of a shoulder launched missile's range it would not have had a trail like that in either sustain or coast phase when it hit. That means if it was a missile it would have been a larger one.

23 posted on 09/25/2013 7:10:40 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Why is our military going to be used as Al Qaeda's air force in Syria?)
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To: yldstrk

I’ve never been a fan of the low-voltage spark exploding the center fuel tank theory... It’s hard to believe. But I’m not buying this either.

a.) It’s WND. One big problem right there. Note the lack of any actual new evidence. Just the same warmed-over opinions.

b.) There is just no way— no way— that a whole navy ship full of hundreds of sailors could keep a secret this juicy for this long. Ain’t happening.

I’d still believe it was a surface launched missile, but from a terrorist boat somewhere, not the navy. Much easier to keep a secret within a smaller group of FBI and Boeing investigators. Also a good way to get the CIA of all people to make you a sweet graphic movie. The motive is even a little bit noble... If you hide the terrorist angle and you deny them their prize.


24 posted on 09/25/2013 7:10:56 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Ramius

Agree in general with your comments.
The thing that makes me dubious about the “terrorist missile” is that there was only one.

Hard to imagine they would stop there. It’s not like they had access to the only functional manpad in the world.


25 posted on 09/25/2013 7:12:57 PM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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To: yldstrk

Has WND ever been right or had legitimate sources? Seriously, I am just curious.


26 posted on 09/25/2013 7:13:25 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Chode
a heat seeker would have hit an engine not the body of the plane.

D@mn you're ruining the whole conspiracy fun....

27 posted on 09/25/2013 7:14:06 PM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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To: MeshugeMikey

There was a video. There was a party and someone was taping it. The video clearly showed a “trail” going up toward the plane. My son and I were up late that night and saw it on the news. The video was confiscated and never shown again.


28 posted on 09/25/2013 7:16:00 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: Lazamataz

At least Pres. William Jefferson Clinton worked hard to get to the bottom of this and make certain all the facts came out.


29 posted on 09/25/2013 7:16:56 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: nascarnation

There’s been all sorts of one-off terrorist attacks. The shoe bomber. The underwear bomber. 9-11 even. They tend to go with what works and gets them press. But we’ve countered the things that worked and made them harder. So 9-11 hasn’t happened again... And other attacks have been stopped.


30 posted on 09/25/2013 7:19:14 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Ramius

Bombing airliners has been far more frequent than the shoe/underwear stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_airliner_bombing_attacks


31 posted on 09/25/2013 7:21:52 PM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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To: nascarnation

A fairly large group of military guys can be induced to keep their mouths shut until many years later when you get death-bed confessions. I know this. I was AFSA.


32 posted on 09/25/2013 7:22:49 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: nascarnation
sorry, my bad...
33 posted on 09/25/2013 7:24:19 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Lazamataz
We know that somebody shot the plane down and the government lied about it. The democrats don't care about anything but staying in power. American lives and truth will be sacrificed for the political future of a Clinton or any other democrat. These snakes have no honor , morals or decency.
34 posted on 09/25/2013 7:24:42 PM PDT by peeps36 (I'm Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags f All Colors)
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To: yldstrk

The mother of all coverups. If it was an accidentally fired missile, probably a safety switch was in the wrong position during a simulated fire exercise, then the entire crew of the ship would have to know.


35 posted on 09/25/2013 7:25:07 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Ramius

I beg to differ. I know it can happen. And it would NOT have been the whole crew knowing what happened. I was AFSA way back when and my father- career navy officer- told me some things before he died that tells me that, yes, a whole ship’s crew can be intimidated to keep mum until the “deathbed confessions” of a few.


36 posted on 09/25/2013 7:28:01 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: Chode

It wasn’t a heat seeking missile, he said a proximity missile and they’re radar guided.


37 posted on 09/25/2013 7:30:27 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Figment
The least likely scenario of all. Center fuel tank explosion is more likely than this...Didn’t happen that way.

My bid is on a lone-wolf shoe-bomber, sitting right over the center fuel tank.

We got a passengerlist/seating assignment? (psst look for a mohammed)

38 posted on 09/25/2013 7:31:22 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering FREAKS!)
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To: yldstrk

A lot of us figured, from the git-go, that this was either a terrorist or we accidentally did it ourselves. There was a practice going on and our missiles are all that could have done it easily.

I leaned in that direction but thought it would just be impossible to cover up.


39 posted on 09/25/2013 7:35:01 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Figment
Too many people to keep quiet.

And Benghazi was caused by a you tube video.

They dismissed the testimony of 200 eyewitnesses who all saw a missile.

Obama's school records have been kept a secret since before flight 800.

40 posted on 09/25/2013 7:36:06 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

That’s as plausible as anything.


41 posted on 09/25/2013 7:36:21 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Do you remember them showing radar footage of incident on news reports?


42 posted on 09/25/2013 7:40:00 PM PDT by pnz1
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To: DJ MacWoW

AH YES that I also now remember thanks to your remembering it.

I heard a lot of people stating that they had seen something similar.


43 posted on 09/25/2013 7:41:37 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: Irenic
i know what radar guided prox fused missiles are, the first post said heat seeker, that was what i replied to...
44 posted on 09/25/2013 7:42:50 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: pnz1

That I don’t remember and I was watching NYC news.


45 posted on 09/25/2013 7:44:27 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: MeshugeMikey
form the Passneger List! * Ferrat, Mohammad, Ivory Coast oh this HAS TO BE WRONG: Kevorkian, Capt. Ralph G. , 58, TWA Flight 800 pilot, of Garden Grove, Calif. No Im not kidding. Both names appear on the passenger list http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/twa800/list01.htm
46 posted on 09/25/2013 7:47:10 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: MeshugeMikey

The news replayed that video over and over that night. It was either NBC NYC or Fox NYC news. The next day or so it wasn’t even mentioned. I remember my son and I being stunned that it just “disappeared”. The press got their orders rather swiftly.


47 posted on 09/25/2013 7:50:58 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: yldstrk

A common assumption early on. A conspiracy nut would strike ‘accidental’ given the manifest.


48 posted on 09/25/2013 7:53:01 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Figment

This was not a boo boo by the Navy. This was a terrorist attack. Read Commander Donaldson report on twa800.com or twa800.org. it is in plain english. The eyewitnesses accounts do not comport with a Naval accident.


49 posted on 09/25/2013 7:54:16 PM PDT by waxer1 (A Republic if you can keep it--Benjamin Franklin. Well we lost it.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I did not have a TV at the time but remember hearing about it for some days on talk radio.

oddly enough there was one mooselim name on the flight 800 Passeneger list

* Ferrat, Mohammad, Ivory Coast

on a twilight zone note
Kevorkian, Capt. Ralph G. , 58, TWA Flight 800 pilot, of Garden Grove, Calif.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/twa800/list01.htm


50 posted on 09/25/2013 7:58:02 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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