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Posted on 09/25/2013 9:05:02 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
Russia, France Develop New Infantry Fighting Vehicle
MOSCOW, September 25 (RIA Novosti) Russias Uralvagonzavod and Frances Renault are jointly developing a new infantry fighting vehicle (IFV) with an increased firing range of up to 16 kilometers, the Russian company said Wednesday.
We [Uralvagonzavod and Renault Trucks Defense] unveiled today a prototype of a future IFV, Uralvagonzavod general director Oleg Sienko said at Russian Arms Expo-2013, which opened Wednesday in the Urals city of Nizhny Tagil.
The French side provided us with the transmission, the engine, the concept and the fire control system, he said.
According to Sienko, the new IFV will be highly competitive on global markets because it is equipped with a powerful 57-mm gun, instead of the 30-mm variant that is standard for current IFVs.
With its maneuverability and fire power, we are certain that this product will be in high demand on the market, Sienko said, adding that a joint Russian-French venture could be formed to set up localized production of the new IFV in Russia.
Renault, Frances second-biggest carmaker, has made the Russian market one of its priorities for international development. Russia is already Renaults fourth-largest automobile market.
In 2014, the Renault-Nissan Alliance will get a majority stake in a joint venture with the Russian Technologies State Corporation, called Alliance Rostec Auto BV, which will control AvtoVAZ, leader of the Russian car market.
The new French-Russian 8x8 armoured vehicle armed with 57mm automatic cannon at RAE 2013 (Russian Arms Expo), defense exhibition in Nizhny Tagil, Russia.
So it runs on Vodka, beats its wife, and then surrenders?
The French side provided us with a white surrender flag.
The frogs really know how to spend their money: carbon credits, green energy, entitlements to Arab immigrants, and tanks for Russia.
The french huh? How many speeds reverse does it have?
Interesting. Bigger cannon is nice, but how much armor does it carry? Survivability of Bradleys is a real problem.
It will be too unreliable to use in retreat.
The French side provided us with the transmission, the engine, the concept and the fire control system, he said. “
What does that leave for the Russians, the hub caps?
Welding steel plate. That’s about it.
Looks just like the Bradley.
You just earned yourself a beer.
Uh, no. It looks absolutely nothing like a Brad.
It does, however, look like a Stryker/LAV.
“Welding steel plate. Thats about it.”
That’s 3/4” Birch plywood.
>>>Interesting. Bigger cannon is nice, but how much armor does it carry? Survivability of Bradleys is a real problem.<<<
It is better than Russian BTR for sure.
As for a powerplant, Russian version has it’s pros. 8 of 10 Russian tanks sitting as monuments around Europe for 70 years are still drivable. All you need is a new battery.
Bob Vila consulting on the project? ;-)
I wonder how much of the design is copied or outright stolen from the Stryker? Or could it be that given similar mission(s) and constraints the designs naturally evolve to something very similar to each other?
“Bob Vila consulting on the project?”
Yes, he matched up the latex for the exterior.
plenty thick enough to stop small arms fire and the 57 mm cannon with a 16 km range gives it standoff capability against anything else in its class. I wouldn’t be too quick to disregard this.
I wonder what is a Russian military opinion on this one?
Thus thing is extremely unorthodox for their taste: high silhouette and wheeled.
plenty enough armor to stop small arms fire and plenty enough 57 mm auto cannon to stop anything bigger from getting close enough to engage it.
BTR’s and BRDM’s were/are wheeled and Russians have always subscribed to the bigger is better philosophy of war machines. That high sillouette doesn’t much matter with a 16 km range unless it’s fighting against tanks.
So it runs on Vodka, beats its wife, and then surrenders?
You left out the singing! The singing is the most important part of getting drunk if your French or Russian, oh and pissing yourself.
But the, being French, mebbe that is the idea: take a quick non-lethal hit to the top, and Voila! Surrender!
16km range in what universe? and, per another post, BRADLEYS were never suppose to survive against serious AT weapons, just small arms up to HMGs and shrapnal. a vehicle that can survive everything on the battlefield is called a pillbox
That's what they say. We'll see. Even if it's half that, that's a problem. I spent 8 years operating and maintaining BFV's btw.
The French version has a built-in pop-up white flag for efficiently surrendering.
Runs on vodka. Has only one speed... reverse.
>>>BTRs and BRDMs were/are wheeled and Russians have always subscribed to the bigger is better philosophy of war machines. That high sillouette doesnt much matter with a 16 km range unless its fighting against tanks<<<
BRDM is a scout vehicle, BTR was never loved too much. It is primarily a used by specops for low-intensive counter-insurgency right now.
The long range cannon is smart. Insurgents would have to fight through miles of its range before they could launch an RPG or mortar round at it.
It could control plains and desert territory.
You’d need artillery, ground cover, or air power to knock it out.
I’m afraid that it won’t fair well against UCAVs armed with HellFires, though.
57 mm is great gun, and Russians will by the ammo from Serbia.
It might be a nice deal for Serbia, too.
Renault, Peugeot, Citroen......
Three reasons the French are known for their wines.
Sounds like a domestic violence call...
The Soviets/Russians were big users of wheeled armor long before the concept caught on in the US with the LAV and later the Stryker. If anything, our designs, or at least a lot of the initial concepts, were based in many ways on the successes and failures of Soviet wheeled vehicles in Afghanistan.
I think the latter. The requirements more-or-less dictate the final form.