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Russia, France Develop New Infantry Fighting Vehicle
Ria Novosti ^ | 25/09/2013

Posted on 09/25/2013 9:05:02 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Russia, France Develop New Infantry Fighting Vehicle

MOSCOW, September 25 (RIA Novosti) – Russia’s Uralvagonzavod and France’s Renault are jointly developing a new infantry fighting vehicle (IFV) with an increased firing range of up to 16 kilometers, the Russian company said Wednesday.

“We [Uralvagonzavod and Renault Trucks Defense] unveiled today a prototype of a future IFV,” Uralvagonzavod general director Oleg Sienko said at Russian Arms Expo-2013, which opened Wednesday in the Urals city of Nizhny Tagil.

“The French side provided us with the transmission, the engine, the concept and the fire control system,” he said.

According to Sienko, the new IFV will be highly competitive on global markets because it is equipped with a powerful 57-mm gun, instead of the 30-mm variant that is standard for current IFVs.

“With its maneuverability and fire power, we are certain that this product will be in high demand on the market,” Sienko said, adding that a joint Russian-French venture could be formed to set up localized production of the new IFV in Russia.

Renault, France’s second-biggest carmaker, has made the Russian market one of its priorities for international development. Russia is already Renault’s fourth-largest automobile market.

In 2014, the Renault-Nissan Alliance will get a majority stake in a joint venture with the Russian Technologies State Corporation, called Alliance Rostec Auto BV, which will control AvtoVAZ, leader of the Russian car market.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: eussr; france; ifv; molotovribbentrop; russia

The new French-Russian 8x8 armoured vehicle armed with 57mm automatic cannon at RAE 2013 (Russian Arms Expo), defense exhibition in Nizhny Tagil, Russia.

1 posted on 09/25/2013 9:05:02 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

So it runs on Vodka, beats its wife, and then surrenders?


2 posted on 09/25/2013 9:05:48 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The French side provided us with a white surrender flag.

The frogs really know how to spend their money: carbon credits, green energy, entitlements to Arab immigrants, and tanks for Russia.


3 posted on 09/25/2013 9:08:21 PM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The french huh? How many speeds reverse does it have?


4 posted on 09/25/2013 9:09:24 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Interesting. Bigger cannon is nice, but how much armor does it carry? Survivability of Bradleys is a real problem.


5 posted on 09/25/2013 9:09:51 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

It will be too unreliable to use in retreat.


6 posted on 09/25/2013 9:14:23 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (The Presidency is broken.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Ouch! That's going to leave a mark.
7 posted on 09/25/2013 9:15:11 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“The French side provided us with the transmission, the engine, the concept and the fire control system,” he said. “

What does that leave for the Russians, the hub caps?


8 posted on 09/25/2013 9:16:21 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: PLMerite

Welding steel plate. That’s about it.


9 posted on 09/25/2013 9:18:04 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Looks just like the Bradley.


10 posted on 09/25/2013 9:22:46 PM PDT by wastedyears (One nation, under wub. Saints Row IV)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
So it runs on Vodka, beats its wife, and then surrenders?

You just earned yourself a beer.

11 posted on 09/25/2013 9:23:24 PM PDT by wastedyears (One nation, under wub. Saints Row IV)
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To: wastedyears

Uh, no. It looks absolutely nothing like a Brad.

It does, however, look like a Stryker/LAV.


12 posted on 09/25/2013 9:28:26 PM PDT by Terabitten (I'd rather have one Walker than fourteen runners.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

“Welding steel plate. That’s about it.”

That’s 3/4” Birch plywood.


13 posted on 09/25/2013 9:29:13 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: headstamp 2

lol


14 posted on 09/25/2013 9:29:57 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Alter Kaker

>>>Interesting. Bigger cannon is nice, but how much armor does it carry? Survivability of Bradleys is a real problem.<<<

It is better than Russian BTR for sure.

As for a powerplant, Russian version has it’s pros. 8 of 10 Russian tanks sitting as monuments around Europe for 70 years are still drivable. All you need is a new battery.


15 posted on 09/25/2013 9:30:43 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: headstamp 2
That’s 3/4” Birch plywood.

Bob Vila consulting on the project? ;-)

16 posted on 09/25/2013 9:33:15 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Terabitten
It does, however, look like a Stryker/LAV.

I wonder how much of the design is copied or outright stolen from the Stryker? Or could it be that given similar mission(s) and constraints the designs naturally evolve to something very similar to each other?

17 posted on 09/25/2013 9:36:46 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: ThunderSleeps

“Bob Vila consulting on the project?”

Yes, he matched up the latex for the exterior.

(Behr Premium)


18 posted on 09/25/2013 9:37:22 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: ThunderSleeps

plenty thick enough to stop small arms fire and the 57 mm cannon with a 16 km range gives it standoff capability against anything else in its class. I wouldn’t be too quick to disregard this.


19 posted on 09/25/2013 9:39:36 PM PDT by RC one
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To: RC one

I wonder what is a Russian military opinion on this one?
Thus thing is extremely unorthodox for their taste: high silhouette and wheeled.


20 posted on 09/25/2013 9:44:03 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: Alter Kaker

plenty enough armor to stop small arms fire and plenty enough 57 mm auto cannon to stop anything bigger from getting close enough to engage it.


21 posted on 09/25/2013 9:45:24 PM PDT by RC one
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To: cunning_fish

BTR’s and BRDM’s were/are wheeled and Russians have always subscribed to the bigger is better philosophy of war machines. That high sillouette doesn’t much matter with a 16 km range unless it’s fighting against tanks.


22 posted on 09/25/2013 9:52:23 PM PDT by RC one
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

So it runs on Vodka, beats its wife, and then surrenders?

You left out the singing! The singing is the most important part of getting drunk if your French or Russian, oh and pissing yourself.


23 posted on 09/25/2013 10:03:18 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Not up on land armor design, but that looks rather high profile using the guys walking in the background as scale. A bit hard to hide behind terrain sticking up like that..................

But the, being French, mebbe that is the idea: take a quick non-lethal hit to the top, and Voila! Surrender!

24 posted on 09/25/2013 10:04:41 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: RC one

16km range in what universe? and, per another post, BRADLEYS were never suppose to survive against serious AT weapons, just small arms up to HMGs and shrapnal. a vehicle that can survive everything on the battlefield is called a pillbox


25 posted on 09/25/2013 10:05:54 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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To: bravo whiskey
Russia’s Uralvagonzavod and France’s Renault are jointly developing a new infantry fighting vehicle (IFV) with an increased firing range of up to 16 kilometers, the Russian company said Wednesday.

That's what they say. We'll see. Even if it's half that, that's a problem. I spent 8 years operating and maintaining BFV's btw.

26 posted on 09/25/2013 10:20:01 PM PDT by RC one
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The French version has a built-in pop-up white flag for efficiently surrendering.


27 posted on 09/25/2013 10:21:27 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Runs on vodka. Has only one speed... reverse.


28 posted on 09/25/2013 11:35:26 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: RC one

>>>BTR’s and BRDM’s were/are wheeled and Russians have always subscribed to the bigger is better philosophy of war machines. That high sillouette doesn’t much matter with a 16 km range unless it’s fighting against tanks<<<

BRDM is a scout vehicle, BTR was never loved too much. It is primarily a used by specops for low-intensive counter-insurgency right now.


29 posted on 09/26/2013 12:09:39 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The long range cannon is smart. Insurgents would have to fight through miles of its range before they could launch an RPG or mortar round at it.

It could control plains and desert territory.

You’d need artillery, ground cover, or air power to knock it out.

I’m afraid that it won’t fair well against UCAVs armed with HellFires, though.


30 posted on 09/26/2013 12:20:40 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

57 mm is great gun, and Russians will by the ammo from Serbia.


31 posted on 09/26/2013 1:01:00 AM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77

It might be a nice deal for Serbia, too.


32 posted on 09/26/2013 1:10:36 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Renault, Peugeot, Citroen......

Three reasons the French are known for their wines.


33 posted on 09/26/2013 4:25:25 AM PDT by fredhead (Join the Navy and see the world.....77% of which is covered in water.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Sounds like a domestic violence call...


34 posted on 09/26/2013 5:42:48 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: ThunderSleeps
"I wonder how much of the design is copied or outright stolen from the Stryker?"

The Soviets/Russians were big users of wheeled armor long before the concept caught on in the US with the LAV and later the Stryker. If anything, our designs, or at least a lot of the initial concepts, were based in many ways on the successes and failures of Soviet wheeled vehicles in Afghanistan.

35 posted on 09/26/2013 5:48:41 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: ThunderSleeps
I wonder how much of the design is copied or outright stolen from the Stryker? Or could it be that given similar mission(s) and constraints the designs naturally evolve to something very similar to each other?

I think the latter. The requirements more-or-less dictate the final form.

36 posted on 09/29/2013 3:06:03 PM PDT by Terabitten (I'd rather have one Walker than fourteen runners.)
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