Posted on 09/26/2013 5:28:57 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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most students are unprepared for the amount of liberal bull____ they have to deal with in college
>> The average score for X was 1619
When I was in school, the max score for each of “English” and “Math” was 800 totaling 1600 — at least I thought it was.
A writing section was added, so the maximum score is now 2400.
Perfect idiots walk around here with laptops (free, of course) and book bags... pretending they are in college. Most of them do NOT know how the elevator works, how the campus is laid out, where their classes are. It's all 'play time' for them. They take classes that are insanely stupid and amount to nothing in terms of education, then they drop out or flunk out in a semester... but they keep the money.
Schools have become whores to the government!!
"Less kids prepared for college" would change if only 25% or so were preparing for and enrolling in real, serious college education. It's a case of less is more, if the nation wants quality in its college grads.
these colleges that have all these remedial courses are a testimony to the failute of the nation’s high schools.
what’s wrong with the admissions officers??
I work for one too. The one I don’t get is this: How did you get into college WHEN YOU CAN’T SPEAK ENGLISH! Seriously, what is that? You can’t speak it and you barely understand it. How did you get into an American university?
I think speaking the language should be a requirement.
With all of the high school offerings of “environmental studies”, it really is no wonder why some/most just can’t handle college.
me too
I suspect they added another area some time ago for writing I believe.
The point of assessing acedemic perfermance in college to achievement on the SAT shows me two things. First, we are letting far too many people into college probably because the K through 12 system in some states is a glorified baby sitting arena. When these young adults have been passed through, they eek into a college that will give a degree in exchange for money. Although they cannot meet any set of rigorous acedemics they are only passed through as long as a combination of their cash and loans pays the freight. This is a scandal of long standing.
The standards in school right now are ridiculous. Just wait until these core standards have full implementation. Anyone who's not in the top 20% of intelligence AND has a stable homelife will be left behind. The scores will be even lower.
The scoring system changed several years ago.
i just gradueted from hi skool and i am like todally redy for colage
Thanks, guys.
Relegating the former technical component to one-third seems crazy. But then again, it’s the idiots that end up in education.
These same idiots, IF they graduate, cannot find work but will shake their fists in OUR faces because they are unemployable!!
All the while they try to wriggle out of paying their student loans, because it’s OUR fault they went into debt to get a ‘degree’ that isn’t worth squat...
My homeschooled daughter and I spend a lot of time at college libraries, so I can vouch for the accuracy of your description.
We are philosophically opposed to debt or she’d be at Bucknell, consorting with the perfect idiots enrolled there, and probably making a good living as a designated driver I might add. But the tuition is astronomical and anyway she has at least one college degree equivalent between her ears now, thanks to quality homeschooling. She also has a job and an extra house (also debt-free).
A college degree is wall covering at around $100,000 per square foot.
Send that and she might consider enrolling. I’ll supply the hip boots, the Bible and the side arm.
Speaking of a lowered bar.
“Less than half of the students who took the SAT in 2013 are ready”
The author of a publication for higher education and the first word of the first sentence is an error. LOL
HERETIC!
At least, that’s what I felt like when I stated the same thing amongst a group of public teachers.
True. But how many really know or care about the difference between “fewer” and “less”.
An Open Admissions policy - aka Fill the Seats
No problem as long as they pay the tuition that increases annually. It’s about money, folks.
Yes but they are turning down an American student in order to allow a functional illiterate into the university.
Also, are you taking advantage of the AP tests? My granddaughter last year took the AP test in Psychology with our local school district. I think it cost something like $100. Her private high school did not offer AP Psych but it looks like the college she'll be attending will be requiring it as a core. All she did was read and study the Princeton Review book and she scored a 5 - she reports it's the easiest AP test she ever took.
She hopes to place out of all her core classes. So far she's gotten 4's or 5's on APUSH, AP Spanish, AP Lit, AP Calc 1, AP Chem, AP Psych, AP Enviro Science (according to her another joke of an AP), and AP Gov.
Can you tell I'm a proud Grampy? :)
i quiet skool when i wuz 16 and today I are a millionare.
Actually, she's a self-sufficient adult so I'm in no position to "send" her anywhere. But aside from that, we are true conservatives and we don't believe it's moral to take other people's money for any purpose. College is, in my opinion, a frivolous and outrageously expensive thing to be stealing (mooching) for. We believe that those who are able, should go out and earn their living.
And since we haven't the money up front, someone's pocket would have to be picked, for the dubious good of a college degree.
MU professor complaining in the college paper that a humor column makes fun of her “serious” classes.
http://www.themaneater.com/stories/2013/8/27/columnist-fishers-comments-demean-hard-work-profes/
Also the CLEP tests: I got 30 credit hours for college from that, did college and law school in 5 years
There was a time when the educational path was, go to high school, learn a trade either at high school or working with a relative, go work for a few years, build up the money and drive to do better, decide on a career and THEN go to college.
BUT
Once the courts struck down employer testing as a means of evaluating candidates, the HR departments took the easy legal way of adding college degree requirements to jobs that really did not need them.
SO
The result is that now, to get any kind of job, you have to have at least some college, if not, a degree. Government (courts) interference has once again messed up what was a good and working system.
I was unprepared for college. Went to public school all my life and took supposed “college preparatory” courses. I ended up going to a private university which promptly kicked my *** the first year. That is when I learned how much public education has lowered the bar. I still finished with a degree, just don’t ask me what my GPA was.
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I suspect that this will change when several major corporations decide that college degree, as such, don’t matter.
In effect, creating their own subcontracted schools to evaluate potential hires, and reeducate them if they have a few deficiencies, which is common, or dismiss them if they cannot perform at all. If they have a few deficiencies, they attend this school, paid, for eight hours a day on just those subjects, and they must pass to keep their job.
Then, they get specialized training for their job, and have to pass that as well. This part is mandatory for all new hires.
But the bottom line for these companies is that they get two more years of work out of these employees than they do out of college graduates.
And unlike colleges, many of which have no problem with giving degrees to the incompetent, this is strictly ordered on proficiency.
I have a friend whose daughter was in every advanced class and straight A’s all 4 years, she got the shock of her life when her daughter scored a 1300 on her SAT. The schools should be ashamed for such low standards.
I attended an "engineering college" in the 60s and our drop out rate first quarter was 85% if I recall correctly. I started my first year in a class of 600+ freshmen (which consisted of aspiring BSME, BSEE, and 12 different AAS candidates). I finished with 11 other BSME grads.
The highest drop out rate was in the first three months. You are definitely right about college, as most are not cut out to be engineers. I think vocational training, post HS in a trade school two year program suits the other two thirds of the bell curve nicely.
Regards,
GtG
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