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McCain: In Order to Survive, Republicans Must Become Civilized, Endeavor to Persevere (Democrat!)
Ace of Spades ^ | 9-25-2013 | Ace

Posted on 09/26/2013 7:06:54 AM PDT by servo1969

He's a Democrat. I don't mind that he's a Democrat, but he's going around the country claiming to be part of the opposition party.

This is, essentially, the Democratic response: ObamaCare was duly passed, it was an issue in a presidential campaign that the GOP lost, end of story — whether or not there are 51 or even 60 votes in the Senate to defund this thing. He actually used the phrase “elections have consequences,” which must be the first time a member of the *minority* party has ever tossed that into a debate. Like Ramesh Ponnuru says, weren’t Ted Cruz and Mike Lee elected too?

UPDATE: (Jack M.)

Here's a blast from the past. 2002 to be exact. McCain's been a Democrat for at least 11 years, or so his one-time "chief strategist" seems to imply in this 2002 interview. In 2013, Weaver, apparently, is a Republican consultant again.

John Weaver hunches his angular frame over a Styrofoam cup of coffee in the basement cafeteria of the United States Senate and tries to explain what might seem--to an outsider--his peculiar political loyalties. Once a loyal Republican strategist who directed the presidential aspirations of uber-conservative Phil Gramm and helped plot John McCain's maverick primary run in 2000, he has since re-registered as a Democrat and severed consulting ties to all Republicans except McCain, for whom he still serves as chief strategist. "I only work for Democrats now," he tells me. Noticing that he has overlooked the party affiliation of his most prominent advisee, I helpfully add: "And John McCain." Weaver shrugs his shoulders and grins, "Oh, right."

Update 2: Moar Context!1!

Here's some more relatively contemporaneous context. Granted it's from the New York Times in 2008, so grain of salt...but the players remain the same.

Mr. McCain had begun to ally himself with the Democrats on a number of issues, and had told Mr. Daschle that he planned to vote against the Bush tax cuts, a centerpiece of the new president’s domestic agenda. Mr. McCain often made “disparaging comments” about Mr. Bush on the floor of the Senate, Mr. Daschle recalled.

Still, Democrats were stunned one Saturday in late March when, by their account, John Weaver, Mr. McCain’s longtime political strategist, reached out to Thomas J. Downey, a former Democratic congressman from Long Island who had become a lobbyist with powerful connections on Capitol Hill. In Mr. Downey’s telling, Mr. Weaver posed a question to him over lunch that left him stunned.

“He says, ‘John McCain is wondering why nobody’s ever approached him about switching parties, or becoming an independent and allying himself with the Democrats,’ ” Mr. Downey said in a recent interview. “My reaction was, ‘When I leave this lunch, your boss will be called by anybody you want him to be called by in the United States Senate.’ ”

Mr. Weaver recalls the conversation differently. He said that Mr. Downey had told him that Democrats, eager to find a Republican who would switch sides and give them control of the evenly divided Senate, had approached some Republican senators about making the jump. “I stated they couldn’t be so desperate as they hadn’t reached out to McCain,” Mr. Weaver said in an e-mail message last week.

Whatever transpired, Mr. Downey raced home and immediately called Mr. Daschle. It was the first step in what became weeks of conversations that April between Mr. McCain and the leading Democrats, among them Senator Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts and John Edwards, then a senator from North Carolina, about the possibility of Mr. McCain’s leaving his party. One factor driving Mr. McCain, Mr. Downey said, was his bad relations with the Republican caucus.

So, yeah. As they use to say in the old NFL commercials: "You make the call!"


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: collaborator; cruz; gop; mccain; mccain4obamacare; republican; rinos; sellout; vichyrepublicans
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1 posted on 09/26/2013 7:06:54 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969
We don't want you to survive, Juan.

We want you to do just the opposite.

2 posted on 09/26/2013 7:09:05 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When your policy is to rob Peter to pay Paul, you can count on enthusiastic support from Paul.)
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To: servo1969

Just go away asshole. You’ve stained civilization for far too long.


3 posted on 09/26/2013 7:11:13 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: servo1969
Civilized = No Backbone.
The R's tried that and it cost us two elections and it's about to cost us the country.
Now let's try the other alternative.

4 posted on 09/26/2013 7:11:30 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: servo1969

John McCain, a lifetime of collaboration.


5 posted on 09/26/2013 7:12:30 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: servo1969

The only reason he is Republican is because it gets him face time on the television talk shows. He wouldn’t be in such demand reiterating the Democrat talking points with a D behind his name.


6 posted on 09/26/2013 7:13:38 AM PDT by Yogafist
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To: servo1969

fujm


7 posted on 09/26/2013 7:14:14 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: servo1969

He’s going to retire, cook a deal to make Cindy McCain his replacement and then she will jump to the RATS.
Cindy McCain is one of “Emily’s List” supporters.


8 posted on 09/26/2013 7:14:21 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: servo1969

Democrat masquerading as Republican is the rule rather than the exception.

Just as nazist islamic masquerading as Democrat.


9 posted on 09/26/2013 7:16:24 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of the Muslim Brotherhood))
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To: servo1969


10 posted on 09/26/2013 7:16:34 AM PDT by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don't need to be mystified about a motive.)
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To: servo1969

So Jackson MS can be turned into a Black nationalist fever swamp (I presume blacks are not required to celebrate diversity)and this establishment idiot is running around lecturing productive whites that they have to bend over even more. Eff him.


11 posted on 09/26/2013 7:17:28 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: servo1969

Please go crawl under a rock and stay there you piece of dung Juan McAsshat


12 posted on 09/26/2013 7:18:41 AM PDT by free me (https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: servo1969

John McCain, political platypus. What an odd creature: It ran for president as a Republican, yet it walks and talks like a Democrat!

Media darling,
Conservative bane.
A liberal butthole:
Johnny McCain


13 posted on 09/26/2013 7:19:23 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: servo1969

Isn’t that what the prison guards always tell the prisoners? “Just cooperate with us and everything will go well for you.”


14 posted on 09/26/2013 7:20:19 AM PDT by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: servo1969
Endeavor to Persevere
15 posted on 09/26/2013 7:20:51 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: servo1969

Persevere? At what?

His goal is most unclear


16 posted on 09/26/2013 7:22:07 AM PDT by stanne
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To: servo1969

Gosh I wish he’d join the Democratic Party and be their total embarassment. Then he could no longer sabotage attempts of some Republicans to actually get something done.


17 posted on 09/26/2013 7:24:32 AM PDT by grania
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

MCNASTY NEEDS TO RESIGN! I AM SICK OF HIM AND HIS RINO BUDIES CORKER AND ALEXANDER TOO!

Joe Carr is running against Alexander. Tea Party backed. Lamar is up for re-election.


18 posted on 09/26/2013 7:24:42 AM PDT by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: servo1969
From an update to the article:

McCain's been a Democrat for at least 11 years, or so his one-time "chief strategist" seems to imply in this 2002 interview. In 2013, Weaver, apparently, is a Republican consultant again.

John Weaver hunches his angular frame over a Styrofoam cup of coffee in the basement cafeteria of the United States Senate and tries to explain what might seem--to an outsider--his peculiar political loyalties. Once a loyal Republican strategist who directed the presidential aspirations of uber-conservative Phil Gramm and helped plot John McCain's maverick primary run in 2000, he has since re-registered as a Democrat and severed consulting ties to all Republicans except McCain, for whom he still serves as chief strategist. "I only work for Democrats now," he tells me. Noticing that he has overlooked the party affiliation of his most prominent advisee, I helpfully add: "And John McCain." Weaver shrugs his shoulders and grins, "Oh, right."

19 posted on 09/26/2013 7:25:41 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: servo1969

This is yet another illustration of why a genuine conservative should NEVER donate to the Republican Party, or its Congressional and Senate Re-election Committees, or most PACs. Such organizations just want to get Republicans elected. We want conservatives to be elected, and electing scum like Rep King does not advance our political philosophy.


20 posted on 09/26/2013 7:27:22 AM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: servo1969

It must irritate the hell out of RINOs like McCain, Graham and Cornyn to be publicly revealed to be status quo good old boys by Cruz. It’s like being caught with one’s hand in the till/with one’s pants down, etc.


21 posted on 09/26/2013 7:27:31 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: servo1969

Hey Mac!

We are NOT PRISONERS trying to “survive”, by placating our captors!!!!!

We are American citizens trying to DEFEAT our LIBERAL ENEMIES, who seek to destroy this country!!!!!


22 posted on 09/26/2013 7:27:53 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: fella
Yes, that was the allusion, all right. However, at the end of his soliloquy, the Chief said that “After we considered it for some time, we declared war on the United States.”

Unfortunately, I don't see that ending here.

23 posted on 09/26/2013 7:28:04 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: servo1969

Civilized? By stabbing their colleagues in the back?


24 posted on 09/26/2013 7:28:50 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: fella
Great! First thing I thought of.
25 posted on 09/26/2013 7:29:26 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: servo1969

We won’t surrender to Obama like you did McCain.


26 posted on 09/26/2013 7:29:26 AM PDT by McGruff (Mr. Cruz goes to Washington.)
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To: fella

I was looking to see if anyone got the “Josey Wales” reference. One of the few movies that (if I’m channel surfing), I’ll stop and watch no matter what.

Others:
- Open Range
- Unforgiven (if it’s near the end)
- A Few Good Men (if it’s near the courtroom scene)
- Godfather
- Shawshank Redemption


27 posted on 09/26/2013 7:30:41 AM PDT by ChiefJayStrongbow
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To: servo1969

Is that right? So does John McCain think our founders weren’t civilized because they certainly acted a lot more like Ted Cruz than John McCain in the face of clear tyranny. The problem with old comfortable men like McCain is they accept the false premises of the left. They are satisfied with playing the stodgy boring alternative to a flamboyant big spending socially radical left. I thought John McCain had learned but the bad old John McCain is back full force it seems. He once again seeks the admiration of the media that destroyed his Presidential ambitions.

I really am beginning to think his time in prison camps broke him in some way and for that I’m empathetic but if you can’t handle the fight go home and keep house with the children and the ladies. :-)


28 posted on 09/26/2013 7:31:17 AM PDT by Maelstorm (The political class love diversity and choice only when the its choices they approve of.)
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To: servo1969

Some began to suspect Juan’s allegiance when Kerry offered him the VP slot in 2004.

Wait a second. Isn’t Kerry on the other side? Depends on which Republicans you ask.


29 posted on 09/26/2013 7:32:19 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: servo1969

The person (NOT man) is despicable. Traitors are worse than the enemy who declares himself as such.


30 posted on 09/26/2013 7:34:53 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: yldstrk
He's not a maverick, he's a mad prick. Go home you old miserable senile bastard.
31 posted on 09/26/2013 7:35:28 AM PDT by peeps36 (I'm Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags f All Colors)
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To: servo1969

Civilized? Tell that to Peter King.


32 posted on 09/26/2013 7:35:55 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: ChiefJayStrongbow

I got the Josey Wales reference. Unfortunately, I don’t see Chief John McCain declaring war on the Bluecoats.


33 posted on 09/26/2013 7:38:27 AM PDT by bagman
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To: Navy Patriot

John McCain would have been a Loyalist to King George III...

He would have disapproved of the actions of Francis Marion (AKA Swamp Fox) during the Revolutionary War.

Ted Kruz, however, IS a Patriot > BOLD & FEARLESS !

Here is the memorial on Francis Marion’s tombstone:

Sacred to the memory of GEN. FRANCIS MARION,who departed this life on the 27th February 1795 in the sixty-third year of his age deeply regretted by all his fellow-citizens.
History will record his worth and rising generations
embalm his memory as one of the most distinguished
PATRIOTS AND HEROES OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION
which elevated his native country to honor and independence
and secured to her the blessings of liberty and peace.
This tribute of veneration and gratitude is erected in
commemoration of the noble and disinterested virtues
of the citizen and the gallant exploits of the soldier
who lived without fear and died without reproach.


34 posted on 09/26/2013 7:45:17 AM PDT by cuspofcommonsense
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To: servo1969

In other words, accept their slavery with no hope of freedom.

FU, Juan.


35 posted on 09/26/2013 7:48:03 AM PDT by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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To: Cincinatus

“Unfortunately, I don’t see that ending here.”

We the people are giving it some time for consideration.


36 posted on 09/26/2013 7:51:01 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: servo1969
McAinal McQueeg is totally irrelevant with conservative republicans. He is only important to the gay rats, who control our media. These dregs of humanity, spend their smi sober hours in Gay hot tubs, writing bs about their hero while trying to make Ted Cruz look bad. In spite of their trash posing as journalism, we now have the totally irrelevant McAinal McQueeg and a stronger Ted Cruz.


37 posted on 09/26/2013 7:52:00 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( When insane/feral Islamics are killing each other, stand back and let Allah sort them out!)
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To: servo1969

We are civilized. What an insult to the people who legitimately oppose what this Administration is doing.


38 posted on 09/26/2013 7:57:31 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: servo1969

The face of the GOP, unreal. McCain is a Democrat.


39 posted on 09/26/2013 8:05:11 AM PDT by erod (I'm a Chicagoan till Chicago ends...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Correct!

I wish that thing living on the side of his face would hurry up and finish eating his head.


40 posted on 09/26/2013 8:05:25 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Proven Federal Fact: The only way to balance the US Federal Spending and Income within the next two years is to execute this two step process:

1.) DEFUND Obamacare in 2013; and

2.) ABOLISH Obamacare, Democratcare, and Republicancare in the first month of 2014.

______________________

BTW US Congress men and women, failure to do BOTH of these timely steps will insure that your replacements will gladly do it for you.

It is all about the money, stupid - - - OUR taxpayer money!

Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock, tick ———


41 posted on 09/26/2013 8:06:55 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: servo1969

Did he actually say, “Endeavor to persevere”?

That is surrender-speak for ‘bend over and do what we tell you’.


42 posted on 09/26/2013 8:08:22 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yeah, like Stepin Fetchit.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AQl2GoEbPys

That’s McPain and Graham Cracker right there - the Stepin Fetchit Republican lackeys of the DemoFascists.


43 posted on 09/26/2013 8:09:02 AM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Phony President)
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To: servo1969

Yeah to all of this article. I did not think much of Romney but I voted for him, mainly because of his executive experience and his anti-illegal immigration policies. But I could not vote McCain in 2008, just no way, no how could I bring myself to vote McCain. Even with Sarah who I really like on the ticket, McCain is just that bad for this conservative. Oh I would not have voted Bush in 2004 if it had not been for John Kerry, yeah Bush was that bad too.


44 posted on 09/26/2013 8:13:22 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: servo1969
Civilized?!?!

Like North Korea?

Like PolPot’s Cambodia?

Like Ceausescu's Romania?

Like 1930’s Germany?

Socialism leads to the opposite of Civilization.

Can somebody please send Juan to a Jr. High school history class? preferably one from the 1960’s when public schools still taught mostly facts. Better yet a modern private school.

45 posted on 09/26/2013 8:18:35 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: servo1969
"McCain: In Order to Survive, Republicans Must Become Civilized, Endeavor to Persevere"

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M'kay.....John McCain--------->You go first!

46 posted on 09/26/2013 8:29:45 AM PDT by hummingbird (Don't be afraid of the big words.)
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To: servo1969

So - basically what Juan McLame is saying is - for the Republican party to survive, they must become Democrats...

Then what is the point of a two-party system? Not that we REALLY have such right now...

We have something that looks more like this:

Liberal Democrats and Republicans vs. Conservatives (who really have no party at all).


47 posted on 09/26/2013 8:35:06 AM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: servo1969

Resign, McAmnesty.


48 posted on 09/26/2013 8:40:59 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: servo1969

He should retire to Atlantis


49 posted on 09/26/2013 8:51:12 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: servo1969
Following Obama out of the restroom, McCain suddenly realized he missed a spot.
50 posted on 09/26/2013 8:52:56 AM PDT by Dogbert41 (Up yours NSA !)
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