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Democrats Constitutionally Ignorant In ObamaCare Feud
IBD ^ | Sept 25, 2013 | By BETSY MCCAUGHEY

Posted on 09/26/2013 6:03:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Displaying their ignorance of the U.S. Constitution, Democratic bigwigs are excoriating Republican members of the House of Representatives for attaching a condition — no ObamaCare — to a stopgap bill to fund the government.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid called it "extortion." Sen. Steny Hoyer labeled it "hostage-taking." Rep. Nancy Pelosi termed it "legislative arson."

In truth, what the House Republicans are doing is not blackmail. It's checks and balances in action. Congress has always had the power to attach almost any condition — including repealing or changing a law — to appropriations. The framers wrote the Constitution that way for good reason.

The nation's first plan of government, the Articles of Confederation, had no president. When the framers gathered in 1787 to write a second, more effective plan, they reluctantly created the presidency.

Reluctantly, because the founders worried that a president would accumulate power and spend flagrantly as they had seen the despotic kings of Europe do. Founders' Checks

To prevent that, the founders created checks and balances. In the words of James Madison, the Constitution's chief architect, each branch of government is "effectually checked and restrained by the others." Congress was given power over the purse — the power to appropriate money and to borrow it or raise it through taxes, because locating the power in Congress would force the president to constantly negotiate with Congress.

Fast forward 226 years to last Friday. President Obama called Speaker of the House John Boehner to say "he will not negotiate" with Congress on raising the U.S. government's borrowing authority. The president, who claims to be a constitutional scholar, needs a refresher course.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: constitution; defund; obama; obamacare
The same day, Obama whipped up a crowd at a Ford plant, complaining that by attaching conditions to the appropriations bill, House Republicans are "trying to mess with me."

Yes, they are, Mr. President, though Madison expressed it with more elegance and precision.

"An elective despotism is not the government we fought for," Madison wrote in Federalist 58. A president with the power to borrow and spend at will would be just that. Sadly, large numbers of Americans are at risk of being bamboozled by the Democrats' inflammatory accusations and warnings of a government shutdown.

1 posted on 09/26/2013 6:03:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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Democrats Constitutionally Ignorant In ObamaCare Feud
2 posted on 09/26/2013 6:04:40 PM PDT by svcw (obama lied my plan died)
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To: svcw

How can the government make young adults pay a fine if they don’t buy health insurance? What if the government decides to make us pay a fine if we don’t buy a solar panel?


3 posted on 09/26/2013 6:13:07 PM PDT by abclily
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Madison anticipated this threat to freedom. In Federalist 62, he warned that it will be pointless for Americans to elect a Congress, if it in turn enacts laws "too voluminous to be read," or if these laws then " undergo such incessant changes that no man who knows what the law is today can guess what it will be tomorrow." That's ObamaCare.

BTTT !

4 posted on 09/26/2013 6:13:24 PM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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RINOs, given The POWER (by the People) in 2010, don't have the 'nads to use it.

Make Dingy pass a budget.

5 posted on 09/26/2013 6:16:53 PM PDT by Paladin2 (h)
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To: Paladin2

The Republican house holds all the constitutional cards on this one. We hold the nuts (so to speak). Keep the pressure on so they do not fold the winner.


6 posted on 09/26/2013 6:21:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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I am afraid that won’t help due to the fact many of them are nutless.


7 posted on 09/26/2013 6:23:02 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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And this is a surprise?!


8 posted on 09/26/2013 6:26:21 PM PDT by AKinAK (Keep your powder dry pilgrim.)
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To: abclily

That’s the whole ball of wax. If this is allowed to go forward, the SCOTUS precedent is set and it’ll be like Roe v Wade. Damn near impossible to overturn. This one is for all the rest of the constitutional marbles. The House must hold fast. They and they alone wield the constitutional power to defeat ALL of this unconstitutional power grab. Just say no.


9 posted on 09/26/2013 6:26:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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The bloodsucking congressional lampreys are very adept at grasping, rasping and sucking.
10 posted on 09/26/2013 6:26:49 PM PDT by JPG (Putin Does Obama.)
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To: AKinAK

No.


11 posted on 09/26/2013 6:27:31 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Dutch Boy

They may be personally nutless, but they hold the nuts (impossible to defeat cards) in this hand. They need to go all in and take all the chips.


12 posted on 09/26/2013 6:30:45 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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what...is he a kid....this sounds like some punk on the playground talking....not the prez. well, maybe any other prez.


13 posted on 09/26/2013 7:03:50 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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Yes. He is a petulant child.


14 posted on 09/26/2013 7:07:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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Here is a petulant child, could be obama's son


15 posted on 09/26/2013 7:23:34 PM PDT by USS Alaska (If I could...I would.)
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Good thread, thanks.


16 posted on 09/26/2013 7:32:30 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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“Constitution? We don’t need no stinkin’ Constitution”. “We Won”.

I really despise Barack Obama and everything he stands for.


17 posted on 09/26/2013 7:37:39 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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I want to thank you Jim for this site. Saved my sanity many times over. I am almost at my 13th year anniversary with FR (although I was a 2 year lurker. Too scared to post, I had seen some newbie flames, lol). What happened to this country with the attempt to steal the 2000 election galvanized me to stop lurking, put on my big girl panties, and start posting. Haven’ regretted it since.


18 posted on 09/26/2013 7:41:56 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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Ever since FDR, the government has changed from an entity that exists “to secure these rights...” into a monster that gives out benefits and freebies and privileges to those they approve of.

And by “approve of”, that means the people and corporations and financiers who help the government stay in power.

To stay in power whatever it takes. By whatever means are necessary.

Anyone who thinks elections can make a peanut of a difference is sadly mistaken. Elections, NO MATTER WHO THE “WINNER” is, only exist to perpetuate the frauds. They have long ceased to make a difference. Look at Roberts and Obamacare.

If the Dems win this time, a few years from now the Pubbies will win. Rinse and repeat.

Both parties are laughing their nuts off. Continuously.


19 posted on 09/26/2013 7:47:39 PM PDT by djf (Global warming is turning out to be a bunch of hot air!!)
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It’s been said that when somebody says anything about anything, they say something about everything. They manifest their thinking.

In the case of Obama, he tells the public he specialized in Constitutional Law at Harvard. If he is so well versed as a legal professional in Constitutional Law, he wouldn’t make such foolhardy statements about Congress.

Which gets back to the above quote. Maybe he really isn’t such a qualified legal expert, lacks knowledge of the Constitutional process, and is continuing to talk about things he really isn’t very qualified to discuss.


20 posted on 09/26/2013 7:53:26 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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What if the government decides to make us pay a fine if we don’t buy a solar panel?

Call it a tax and it is absolutely 100% constitutional according to John Roberts.

21 posted on 09/26/2013 7:56:01 PM PDT by douginthearmy
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Not that they care about the Constitution anyway. The “progressive” mission has been to undermine and destroy the Constitution and the system the Founders set up.


22 posted on 09/26/2013 8:18:04 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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