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Army soldiers to get new policy concerning tattoos, grooming (No "extremist" tatoos
kens5.com ^ | 24 Sept 2013 | by Kens 5 Staff

Posted on 09/27/2013 3:16:36 AM PDT by 11th_VA

The Sgt. Major of the Army has a new message for his soldiers: Stand out for your achievements and not for how you look, according to an article by the Stars and Stripes newspaper.

Sgt. Major Raymond Chandler told a group of troops stationed in Afghanistan about upcoming changes to the Army's tattoo and grooming policy.

New recruits will not be allowed to have tattoos that show below the elbows and knees or above the neckline, once the Secretary of the Army signs off on the changes.

Current soldiers can be grandfathered in, but everyone will be barred from having racist, sexist or extremist permanent ink and will be responsible for removing that type of tattoo on their own dime.

The newspaper also reported other potential changes would control make-up, fingernail polish, hair styles, body piercings and length of sideburns.


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Gee, I wonder who gets to decide what an 'extremist' tattoo is ... Ban on Gadsden flags is probably just the beginning ...
1 posted on 09/27/2013 3:16:36 AM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

Code word for no Christian symbols is my guess.....


2 posted on 09/27/2013 3:18:54 AM PDT by PigRigger (Donate to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org - The Troops have our front covered, let's guard their backs!)
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To: PigRigger

How about “I LOVE THE UN” “global warming is my friend” “I am A LIBERAL PROGRESSIVE, “Me and Mao forever” “Che is my guru”


3 posted on 09/27/2013 3:26:04 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (What you get when you refuse to vet)
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To: 11th_VA

But fecalphelia is okay . . .


4 posted on 09/27/2013 3:26:14 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: PigRigger

“Code word for no Christian symbols is my guess.....”

A small cross tattooed on the body in Roman times was a death sentence if it was seen. Now, it will just get you thrown out of the Army, is my guess. No word yet on the crescent moon and star tattoo.


5 posted on 09/27/2013 3:26:39 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: 11th_VA

Tattoos out......tutus in! What in the hell is my military turning into?


6 posted on 09/27/2013 3:28:10 AM PDT by ImNotLying (The MSM bears a close resemblance to the world's oldest profession!)
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To: 11th_VA

I guess a “Homos Suck “ tattoo would have to go.


7 posted on 09/27/2013 3:29:23 AM PDT by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: 11th_VA

Nothing dissing the holy prophet of islam, I bet...


8 posted on 09/27/2013 3:38:53 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of the Muslim Brotherhood))
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To: 11th_VA

Other grooming??

Oh. Mandatory beards?


9 posted on 09/27/2013 3:40:42 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of the Muslim Brotherhood))
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“Nothing dissing the holy prophet of islam, I bet...”

I have a cross of St James below the knee, so I’m out. You don’t get a better anti-muslim symbol than that. It’s the banner that the Europeans used to kick the Moors out of Spain.


10 posted on 09/27/2013 3:49:27 AM PDT by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: 11th_VA
Ban on Gadsden flags is probably just the beginning ...

Under this administration, I would expect a ban on the American flag to be next.

11 posted on 09/27/2013 3:50:04 AM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: 11th_VA

Gadsden out.

MS13 in.


12 posted on 09/27/2013 4:00:43 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 11th_VA

This summer, I wrapped up three years of civilian service working around Army personnel. I’m over fifty, so maybe I’m more conservative than most folks. The bulk of Army folks I’ve come to know have absorbed the tattoo business and gone to ‘turbo’. Some folks I’ve come across have forty to fifty tattoos....of various shapes and sizes, with some meanings related to war, friendship, those who passed on, political feelings, and their favorite rock band.

Up until this point, the Army leadership has tried to just avoid looking at it, and trying to say it’s the total soldier that matters. Some folks and their gang tattoos, their extreme view tattoos, and profanity wording...are making this all a general problem.

I agree, it’s opening up a can of worms, and going to be heavily discussed by the younger generation soldiers versus the older NCOs....to the ninth degree. Most of us would just say we want a guy who is disciplined and able to stand up in combat...but these little factors often matter when the fight is finished.

On another subject....if you haven’t been to a Army Commissary on Saturday in July in the past five years....and viewed the various tattoos of Army wives....you are missing a ‘thrill’. On this topic, Army leadership can’t say or do much...except post some old warrior NCO at the frontdoor and limit entry if clothing or lusty tattoo situations are too challenging for the public.


13 posted on 09/27/2013 4:00:56 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: 11th_VA

No way they can ban the Gadsden flag, nor the Gonzalez flag (Come and Take it), nor the dissected serpent (Unite or Die)...all of these are very patriotic. I wonder if that means no more Stars and Bars, though. It seems like the forces of PC are doing their best to make the rebel flag verboten.


14 posted on 09/27/2013 4:02:24 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: PigRigger

Crossed penis tats and all manner of gay depictions are fine... especially on the face or below the elbow.


15 posted on 09/27/2013 4:06:50 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: 11th_VA

“Death before dishonor” is obviously out.


16 posted on 09/27/2013 4:15:14 AM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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To: 3Fingas

They can ban anything they want to ban, patriotic or not.


17 posted on 09/27/2013 4:35:51 AM PDT by Pecos (Kritarchy: government by the judges)
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To: pepsionice
When I was in Engineman A School we had a master Chief come in to our classroom. He asked if we had noticed the tattoo parlors outside the gate and if any one was planning on getting a tat. A bunch of guys raised tehri hands. Then he said yep that’s what I did 30 years ago. Ya want to see ‘em? Then he rolled up his sleave and showed off to big dark blue patches on his forearms. You couldn’t tell what they were. He said, well they looked a lot better back then. Not a guy in my class went out and got a tattoo. I have sailed the South Pacific and thus “rate” a tattoo but I never got one, hanks master chief. Some of my kids have though and a couple which they hadn’t.
18 posted on 09/27/2013 5:23:06 AM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: 3Fingas

During the Cold War my Navy husband got a small Confederate flag on his forearm. When he became sick with cancer, and was hospitalized many times, the black nurses would always comment. I made it a point to NEVER leave him alone with them.


19 posted on 09/27/2013 5:26:24 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (")
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To: dblshot

One of the army gal’s I worked around in 2011...had a tattoo on her leg that had to run around $2,500 total. It took several visits to the artist to get it done, and she wanted to show it to everyone. I just stood there....at least six different colors and all elaborate in nature....and wondering how it’d look in twenty years...then having to pay another $1,500 to recolor it.

This is the issue of all tattoo episodes....none are still valid or rich in color in thirty years. You just blow cash away.


20 posted on 09/27/2013 5:31:08 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Coldwater Creek

The Confederate flag was something that did not mean much to me when growing up. I knew the history of the Civil War and it did have some historical meaning. However, I was born in NY, so the Confederacy was just historical footnote to me. When joining the military, I encountered many Marines who had it as a tattoo. For the most part, they wore it as a nod to their Southern heritage and not as a racialist badge. The recent efforts to co-opt the Rebel flag by some and to demonize by others has made it into something that most Southerners did not intend. If the demonization campaign is successful, it may banned by the military as an extremist or divisive symbol; however, I think banning such things only tends to make them more powerful in the minds of those resistant to such action. This is very much a slippery slope and I worry that the military will overreact to the current fad of tattooing.

My sympathies for your husband. I hope that he has received the best care available.


21 posted on 09/27/2013 6:03:39 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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