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CNS News: House Members in Open Revolt
breitbart.com ^ | 9/27/13 | breitbart news

Posted on 09/27/2013 5:33:19 AM PDT by cotton1706

CNS News is reporting that a group of 21 House members have sent a letter to all GOP Senators, warning them against a cloture vote on the Continuing Resolution. A vote on cloture would give Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) the ability to remove the defunding Obamacare provision included in the CR. The House conservatives who signed the letter stated that they consider a cloture vote the same as a vote in support of Obamacare. “it is highly likely that Majority Leader Harry Reid will move to amend the House-passed CR and remove the language from the bill that defunds Obamacare before sending it back to the House.

“As you are also aware,” the conservatives wrote, “such a motion can only proceed if three-fifths of the Senate invokes cloture and allows this amendment process to begin. Simply put, the only chance that Senator Reid has to pursue this course of action is if six or more Republican Senators join the Democrats in voting to invoke cloture.

“Therefore,” the House conservatives said to every Republican senator, “it shall be our policy to regard any cloture vote that gives Senator Reid a green light to reinstate Obamacare into this CR the same as a vote for Obamacare itself.”

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Signers of the letter include: Dave Schweikert (R.-AZ), Charles Boustany, M.D. (R.-LA ), John Culberson (R.-TX ), Steve King (R.-IA), Ted Yoho DVM (R.-FL ), Thomas Massie (R.-KY), Lynn Westmoreland (R.- GA), Jack Kingston (R.-GA), Jeff Duncan (R.-SC), Paul Broun M.D. (R.-GA ), Ron DeSantis (R.-FL), Michele Bachmann (R.-MN), Matt Salmon (R.-AZ), Steve Stockman (R.-TX), Louie Gohmert (R.-TX), Walter Jones (R.-NC), Scott Garrett (R.-NJ), Scott Perry (R.-PA), Mark Meadows (R.-NC), Tim Huelskamp (R.-KS).

Signatures are still being gathered.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: elections; obamacare
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1 posted on 09/27/2013 5:33:19 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

This situation was created by the 17th amendment.


2 posted on 09/27/2013 5:35:30 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cotton1706

They don’t care.

They have already been paid off AND
they *(and their families and their drunk, swinging staff)*
are not even under its yoke.


3 posted on 09/27/2013 5:36:24 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: cotton1706

Hang in there, boys! Go get ‘em! (Who knew there’d be a spine(s) in the Congress)


4 posted on 09/27/2013 5:38:59 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: cotton1706
The really pathetic thing is the RINO senators who are going to vote for it do so with the express intention of sticking it to conservatives.
5 posted on 09/27/2013 5:39:14 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: workerbee

A lot of people will want to know precisely who votes for cloture


6 posted on 09/27/2013 5:40:14 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Bushbacker1
Correcting:

Hang in there, boys/girls!

7 posted on 09/27/2013 5:40:27 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Diogenesis

Correct.........


8 posted on 09/27/2013 5:41:04 AM PDT by Doofer
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To: cotton1706

Of course, a vote with Harry Reid for cloture will be a vote to fund ObamaCare, because he will be able to pass it with just 51 Democrat votes instead of having to get 60 votes, some of them from the GOP. That’s what Sen. Cruz repeatedly said in his 21 hour Seminar for the Stupid. Mark the names of Republican senators who vote with Reid and replace them in their next primary. They are not to be trusted and consider their voters back home to be gullible rubes.


9 posted on 09/27/2013 5:42:04 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: cripplecreek
This situation was created by the 17th amendment.

And fed by the 16th amendment.

10 posted on 09/27/2013 5:42:10 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: cotton1706

Open Revolt?

How is it revolt when you are standing true to AMERICAN ideals? The revolters are the revolting communists who are foisting communism on American patriots who have fought for years against communism.


11 posted on 09/27/2013 5:42:49 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: cotton1706

So, to be clear. A vote “for” Cloture would allow Reid to move to fund Obozocare within the CR?


12 posted on 09/27/2013 5:43:57 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: workerbee

You are correct and I ask myself....what is in it for them? Senator Blunt from Missouri is going to vote “Yes” on cloture. I have suggested to fellow Missourians to call Blunt’s office and let their voice be heard.


13 posted on 09/27/2013 5:45:16 AM PDT by elephant
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To: workerbee

And this is precisely why you don’t vote for RINOs ever. Let them lose...at least then we know what we’re up against.


14 posted on 09/27/2013 5:45:45 AM PDT by EBH ( Freeman: A person not in slavery or serfdom.)
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To: cotton1706

Any SENATOR that votes for cloture on the R side of the isle needs a Primary Challenge launched against them 1 minute after the vote.


15 posted on 09/27/2013 5:46:01 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: cotton1706; All

Contact the Speaker
(this link provides the e-mail form)


Office of the Speaker H-232 The Capitol Washington, DC 20515

Phone: (202) 225-0600



Fax: (202) 225-5117




#StandWithCruz , #MakeDCListen &
#DefundObamacare


Call and email ALL Senators
of the 113th Congress (contact info here)


Tell them to stand with PATRIOT Senator Cruz and his effort to defund Obamacare, no excuses!!!

http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/

16 posted on 09/27/2013 5:46:30 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: elephant

“I ask myself....what is in it for them?”

Is it that these Congressmen have more to gain with the passage of Obamacare than what meets the eye?


17 posted on 09/27/2013 5:48:00 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: servantboy777

“So, to be clear. A vote “for” Cloture would allow Reid to move to fund Obozocare within the CR?”

Correct. Because Harry Reid already has an amendment filed which will be voted on after cloture which will strip the defunding language. And that will require only a majority (John McCain and Susan Collins will probably vote for it so their pals the democrats can say it was “bipartisan”)


18 posted on 09/27/2013 5:48:37 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: servantboy777

Exactly. And you can hear the Senators saying that they have been good because they voted “for” being against Obamacare, but in fact, yes means Reid can amend it.

The anti-Obamacare rhetoric is providing smoke and mirrors for a vote that ultimately allows to fund it. Many people still don’t get it.


19 posted on 09/27/2013 5:49:52 AM PDT by cornelis
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To: cripplecreek
This situation was created by the 17th amendment.

Amen. State legislatures should be selecting our Senators, NOT inner-city voters thru open primaries and massive fraud.

20 posted on 09/27/2013 5:52:38 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Amen. State legislatures should be selecting our Senators, NOT inner-city voters thru open primaries and massive fraud.


the reason it was changed was because of corruption. we ended up with more corruption. what does that tell us?


21 posted on 09/27/2013 5:54:36 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: EBH
I guess the 'unappeasables' were right all along.

I'm looking forward to the next 'moderate' republican lecturing me about the importance of being a 'team player'.

22 posted on 09/27/2013 5:56:07 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: cripplecreek
Good morning.

This situation was created by the 17th amendment.

Yep, no doubt about it.

5.56mm

23 posted on 09/27/2013 5:56:24 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: cotton1706

I would predict tha if the RINOs led by Mitch McConnel & john Cornyn vote yes on cloture this morning, giving a balcnk check to Democrat leader, Harry Reid to remove defund Obamacare from the House CR, it will destroy the RINO group within the Republican party. The GOP present leadership will no longer be effective and will be removed from their positions. I believe the RINOs will bless obamacare this morning, but not nearly with amajority of Republicans. Cruz, Lee, Rubio & Paul will own the senate from this afternoon foward....and we will see a different game entirely from the Pubbie side of the aisle. So....what to do this morning for us good guys. Keep calling both the RINOs & the “Red State” Democrat Senators and urge them to vote “no” on cloture!!! And....most importantly, the #1 item is to go on the internet and get on web site. WWW.DONTFUNDOBAMACARE.COM...and, sign/endorse it immediately, this morning!!! Last time I checked it was at 1,850,000 signatures and climbing rapidly. Do it, right now!!! Folks, we must never give up to the tyranny that is Obamacare and Obama, the wpould be destroyer of the American Republic!!! The American people are on our side!!! Fight, fight, fight!!!

WWW.DONTFUNDOBAMACARE.COM


24 posted on 09/27/2013 5:56:50 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: cotton1706

Thanx guys...calling John RINO Cornyn now.


25 posted on 09/27/2013 5:58:00 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: PeterPrinciple

I doubt we could ever get rid of voting for senators and I’m not sure we should but they should not be elected by statewide popular vote.

I personally would assign a certain number of votes per district within the state and the winner of the most districts would win.


26 posted on 09/27/2013 5:58:22 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: txrefugee
*Mark the names of Republican senators who vote with Reid and replace them in their next primary.*

DO NOT vote for these selfish traitors to America!
There names should be circulated all over the Internet just before the next election. Here's to any senators, especially RINO’s NEVER holding any type of public office again.

They will wear the mark of Cain and live the rest of their lives in disgrace.

If Obamacare goes through, I hope that the Dems that voted for their Anti-American vipers vote every last one of them out of office once they realize what a horrifying nightmare Obamacare is!

27 posted on 09/27/2013 5:58:44 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

I guess none of us should be surprised at how ignorant even our own Republican vote folks are on this issue. Most do not realize that a cloture vote is still a vote to fund ObamaCare.


28 posted on 09/27/2013 6:00:04 AM PDT by elephant
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To: cotton1706

OK, other scenario -
if cloture isn’t passed,
it requires 60 votes to amend the house bill?


29 posted on 09/27/2013 6:00:41 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: PeterPrinciple
the reason it was changed was because of corruption. we ended up with more corruption. what does that tell us?

It tells us that these progressive bastards have been busy for a loooooong time.

30 posted on 09/27/2013 6:00:54 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Bushbacker1
Who knew there’d be a spine(s) in the Congress?

The TEApartiers who got them elected.

31 posted on 09/27/2013 6:01:04 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering FREAKS!)
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To: cotton1706

And that will require only a majority (John McCain and Susan Collins will probably vote for it so their pals the democrats can say it was “bipartisan”)

Or provide cover for Prior,Landreiu,Begitch and Hagan.


32 posted on 09/27/2013 6:01:14 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: cotton1706

So. I don’t see Duncan D Hunter or Darrell Issa’s names on this list.... Very disappointed in Duncan D.


33 posted on 09/27/2013 6:02:44 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (Molon Labe)
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To: cotton1706

Those who vote for cloture have declared political suicide. They own their vote and there is a publically available record for them to beaten to a pulp in the primaries.


34 posted on 09/27/2013 6:03:08 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: servantboy777

So, to be clear. A vote “for” Cloture would allow Reid to move to fund Obozocare within the CR?

YES! It would allow Reid to strip the language out that prevents O-care funding,,and it would allow Reid to then call a vote after that to get the CR passed without any discussion or ammendment,,,,so voting YES on cloture gives Reid and the Dems tons of power.

That’s why Cruz is screaming to vote “NO” on cloture. That’s the simple message we all have to get out today. Vote NO on cloture. Vote NO on cloture.


35 posted on 09/27/2013 6:04:45 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: cotton1706
The GOP leadership fashioned their own noose over the years, and by the end of today, their whores in the Senate will have kicked the chair out from under themselves believing someone will cut the rope and resuscitate them.

Fat chance.

Mr. niteowl77

36 posted on 09/27/2013 6:04:59 AM PDT by niteowl77 ("There's nothing a vulture hates more than biting into a glass eye.")
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To: petitfour

It is revolt because both parties have been working to eliminate true American values so that we can be just like everyone and everywhere else. The American people are standing in the gap between liberty and tyranny.

Refusing to succumb = revolt against that status quo. We must not back down.


37 posted on 09/27/2013 6:05:00 AM PDT by gspurlock (http://www.backyardfence.wordpress.com)
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To: cotton1706

The congress is revolting? They sure are...they stink on ice! (I’ll be here all week. Tip your waitresses well and try the veal!)


38 posted on 09/27/2013 6:05:00 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: cotton1706

I find this encouraging, very encouraging. A way for the House pubbies to support the Cruz conservatives in the Senate. I wonder if Louie Gohmert had something to do with this. I see his name on the list.

I must thank him!


39 posted on 09/27/2013 6:05:43 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: MrB

“OK, other scenario -
if cloture isn’t passed,
it requires 60 votes to amend the house bill?”

If cloture isn’t passed, then the “debate” continues. And Reid and the democrats would be forced into a different plan. It would be up in the air at that point. But amendments wouldn’t necessarily require 60 votes unless agreed to by unanimous consent.


40 posted on 09/27/2013 6:05:58 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cripplecreek

True. Only the state legislatures can save the republic now.


41 posted on 09/27/2013 6:06:33 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: cotton1706
CNS News is reporting that a group of 21 House members have sent a letter to all GOP Senators, warning them against a cloture vote on the Continuing Resolution. A vote on cloture would give Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) the ability to remove the defunding Obamacare provision included in the CR. The House conservatives who signed the letter stated that they consider a cloture vote the same as a vote in support of Obamacare....

....Signers of the letter include: Dave Schweikert (R.-AZ), Charles Boustany, M.D. (R.-LA ), John Culberson (R.-TX ), Steve King (R.-IA), Ted Yoho DVM (R.-FL ), Thomas Massie (R.-KY), Lynn Westmoreland (R.- GA), Jack Kingston (R.-GA), Jeff Duncan (R.-SC), Paul Broun M.D. (R.-GA ), Ron DeSantis (R.-FL), Michele Bachmann (R.-MN), Matt Salmon (R.-AZ), Steve Stockman (R.-TX), Louie Gohmert (R.-TX), Walter Jones (R.-NC), Scott Garrett (R.-NJ), Scott Perry (R.-PA), Mark Meadows (R.-NC), Tim Huelskamp (R.-KS).

Ping for later

42 posted on 09/27/2013 6:14:08 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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To: cotton1706
CNS News: House Members in Open Revolt

Wouldn't it be nice if our REPRESENTATIVES did OUR BIDDING for once, as The Constitution prescribes, instead of Party and Big Money's.

43 posted on 09/27/2013 6:14:08 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Muzzie killing muzzie what's the downside and who am I to stop them ?)
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To: cornelis
"The anti-Obamacare rhetoric is providing smoke and mirrors for a vote that ultimately allows to fund it. "

This is exactly how many GOPe Senators get their high Conservative Rating from a review of votes they have constructed to blow smoke up the voting public.

44 posted on 09/27/2013 6:20:55 AM PDT by Paladin2 (h)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
This vote will provide The List of RINOs and not in the Senate.

I suspect that The List will have >20 RINOs who have a political death wish for themselves and the GOPe.

45 posted on 09/27/2013 6:24:40 AM PDT by Paladin2 (h)
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To: cripplecreek

Exactly!


46 posted on 09/27/2013 6:37:35 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: austinaero

Perhaps a clearer way of saying this is that Cruz is asking everybody to refuse to vote for cloture UNTIL Harry Reid withdraws his amendment to fully fund Obamacare.

What these people are saying is that they will vote for cloture prematurely.


47 posted on 09/27/2013 6:53:14 AM PDT by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: servantboy777

right.

If Reid gets cloture, he’ll use his power as Senate Leader to amend the House CR to strip away the defund provision AND importantly he will use the same power to not allow any other amendments.

And at that point it will only take 51 to pass the CR.

Hence the way to stop it is at the 60 vote place - cloture.


48 posted on 09/27/2013 6:53:34 AM PDT by Principled
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To: cripplecreek

bingo!!


49 posted on 09/27/2013 6:58:31 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: cotton1706

In September 17, 2009, Congressman Charlie Rangel introduced H.R. 3590, titled the “Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009” to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 modifying the first-time homebuyers’ credit for members of the Armed Forces and certain other Federal employees. Nancy Pelosi was Speaker of the House and John Boehner was the minority leader when this bill passed on October 8, 2009 by a 416-0 vote. This bill went to the Senate where Majority Leader Harry Reid gutted H.R. 3590, deleted all the contents after the first sentence, and replaced it with what became the “Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act” of November 19, 2009.

Article I, section 7, which states that “All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.” The key idea is that the Supreme Court recently upheld the individual mandate as a tax. But if the mandate is a tax, the PLF argues, then it is a bill for raising revenue. That means that the Affordable Care Act must have begun in the House of Representatives. And it did not.”


50 posted on 09/27/2013 7:01:11 AM PDT by alphadog (2nd Bn. 3rd Marines, Vietnam, class of 68)
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