Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Obamacare: Frustration over health insurance premiums rises among employers
NJ.Com ^ | 9/27/2013 | By Ted Sherman/The Star-Ledger

Posted on 09/27/2013 6:38:41 AM PDT by tobyhill

Every year, Jeffrey Scheininger, president of Flexline/U.S. Brass & Copper Corp., sees the health insurance premiums of his small manufacturing company in Linden go up.

And he does not think things are going to get much better once the landmark Affordable Care Act finally kicks in.

"It's monumentally frustrating," said Scheininger, former chairman of the state Chamber of Commerce, who supported health care overhaul, but is less than thrilled with how it turned out.

"The difference between the hope they held out versus what they delivered is phenomenal," he said.

The act affects different businesses in different ways, primarily based on the size of a company. It requires large companies — those that employ at least 50 people full time, more than 30 hours per week — to offer health insurance coverage for those full-time employees and their dependents, or pay a penalty.

(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aca; obamacare

1 posted on 09/27/2013 6:38:41 AM PDT by tobyhill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: tobyhill
"The difference between the hope they held out versus what they delivered is phenomenal," he said.

Democrats. It's how they operate. Hasn't he figured this out yet?

2 posted on 09/27/2013 6:41:06 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tobyhill

SEIU on strike over Obamacare-related cuts

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/09/seiu_on_strike_over_obamacare-related_cuts.html


3 posted on 09/27/2013 6:41:57 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tobyhill
I'm sure it will all work out just fine.

Especially if you are a "good comrade" and not a "tea party terrorist."


4 posted on 09/27/2013 6:42:39 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tobyhill

I’m a small company <50 and have gone to employee leasing. It actually cut my healthcare costs but the overall is about even.


5 posted on 09/27/2013 6:42:42 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hotlanta Mike
Now is the time for an “I told you so” moment from the Republicans.
6 posted on 09/27/2013 6:42:52 AM PDT by dhs12345
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: tobyhill
"The difference between the hope they held out versus what they delivered is phenomenal,"

How amazingly gullible.

7 posted on 09/27/2013 6:43:41 AM PDT by grobdriver
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tobyhill

A great way to force more manufacturing offshore: ObamaCare


8 posted on 09/27/2013 6:46:51 AM PDT by GeronL
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: grobdriver

Actually gullible in New Jersey is a state affliction.


9 posted on 09/27/2013 6:51:56 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: dhs12345

Now is the time for an “I told you so” moment from the Republicans.


Now the Alinskyites can work 2 jobs, right?


10 posted on 09/27/2013 6:52:11 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: tobyhill

Jeff, resign. You’re an idiot for thinking gov’t solves problems.


11 posted on 09/27/2013 6:53:36 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tobyhill
Scheininger . . . supported health care overhaul, but is less than thrilled with how it turned out.

Scheininger sounds like a guy smart enough to run a once successful business enterprise, but not smart enough to check out the long track record of the people who designed ObaMaoCare.

I have a hard time figuring out how people can be so smart and so dumb at the same time.

12 posted on 09/27/2013 6:54:13 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ClearCase_guy

Funny, isn’t it. The same lie - you can have it all for free with no consequences.

Kinda like “you will surely not die...”.


13 posted on 09/27/2013 6:54:42 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: driftdiver

This year. Wait till next year.


14 posted on 09/27/2013 6:54:56 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: driftdiver

I wish to be hired by your small company. I will monitor for porn usage.


15 posted on 09/27/2013 6:55:01 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: tobyhill

How could this be frustrating?

ObamaCare is saving the average family $2500 a year.

ObamaCare is helping to balance the federal budget.

Under ObamaCare, those of us who like our current insurance can keep it, so no one loses.

ObamaqCare is reducing unemployment, raising the labor supply, and improving the functioning of labor markets, reducing absenteeism, disability and mortality - in short ObamaCare is encouraging and enabling work.

Obama made all those promises, and he is the smartest man in the history of the world, so they must be true. What’s not to like.


16 posted on 09/27/2013 6:55:36 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hotlanta Mike

Yup. Two part time jobs that is. No full time work.


17 posted on 09/27/2013 6:59:24 AM PDT by dhs12345
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: tobyhill

MAKE DC LISTEN: TELL YOUR SENATORS TO OPPOSE CLOTURE ON H.J. RES 59
We must oppose cloture on H. J. Res. 59, so that Harry Reid and Senate Democrats cannot sneak in funding for Obamacare. We need you to call your Senators right now: tell them to oppose cloture on H.J. Res 59 and remind them that a vote for cloture IS a for funding Obamacare.

State Senator Party Phone
AK Mark Begich D (202) 224-3004
AK Lisa Murkowski R (202) 224-6665
AL Jeff Sessions R (202) 224-4124
AL Richard C. Shelby R (202) 224-5744
AR John Boozman R (202) 224-4843
AR Mark L. Pryor D (202) 224-2353
AZ Jeff Flake R (202) 224-4521
AZ John McCain R (202) 224-2235
CA Barbara Boxer D (202) 224-3553
CA Dianne Feinstein D (202) 224-3841
CO Michael F. Bennet D (202) 224-5852
CO Mark Udall D (202) 224-5941
CT Richard Blumenthal D (202) 224-2823
CT Christopher Murphy D (202) 224-4041
DE Thomas R. Carper D (202) 224-2441
DE Christopher A. Coons D (202) 224-5042
FL Bill Nelson D (202) 224-5274
FL Marco Rubio R (202) 224-3041
GA Saxby Chambliss R (202) 224-3521
GA Johnny Isakson R (202) 224-3643
HI Mazie K. Hirono D (202) 224-6361
HI Brian Schatz D (202) 224-3934
IA Chuck Grassley R (202) 224-3744
IA Tom Harkin D (202) 224-3254
ID Mike Crapo R (202) 224-6142
ID James E. Risch R (202) 224-2752
IL Richard J. Durbin D (202) 224-2152
IL Mark Kirk R (202) 224-2854
IN Daniel Coats R (202) 224-5623
IN Joe Donnelly D (202) 224-4814
KS Jerry Moran R (202) 224-6521
KS Pat Roberts R (202) 224-4774
KY Mitch McConnell R (202) 224-2541
KY Rand Paul R (202) 224-4343
LA Mary L. Landrieu D (202) 224-5824
LA David Vitter R (202) 224-4623
MA Edward Markey D (202) 224-2742
MA Elizabeth Warren D (202) 224-4543
MD Benjamin L. Cardin D (202) 224-4524
MD Barbara A. Mikulski D (202) 224-4654
ME Susan M. Collins R (202) 224-2523
ME Angus S. King I (202) 224-5344
MI Carl Levin D (202) 224-6221
MI Debbie Stabenow D (202) 224-4822
MN Al Franken D (202) 224-5641
MN Amy Klobuchar D (202) 224-3244
MO Roy Blunt R (202) 224-5721
MO Claire McCaskill D (202) 224-6154
MS Thad Cochran R (202) 224-5054
MS Roger F. Wicker R (202) 224-6253
MT Max Baucus D (202) 224-2651
MT Jon Tester D (202) 224-2644
NC Richard Burr R (202) 224-3154
NC Kay R. Hagan D (202) 224-6342
ND Heidi Heitkamp D (202) 224-2043
ND John Hoeven R (202) 224-2551
NE Deb Fischer R (202) 224-6551
NE Mike Johanns R (202) 224-4224
NH Kelly Ayotte R (202) 224-3324
NH Jeanne Shaheen D (202) 224-2841
NJ Jeff Chiesa R (202) 224-3224
NJ Robert Menendez D (202) 224-4744
NM Martin Heinrich D (202) 224-5521
NM Tom Udall D (202) 224-6621
NV Dean Heller R (202) 224-6244
NV Harry Reid D (202) 224-3542
NY Kirsten E. Gillibrand D (202) 224-4451
NY Charles E. Schumer D (202) 224-6542
OH Sherrod Brown D (202) 224-2315
OH Rob Portman R (202) 224-3353
OK Tom Coburn R (202) 224-5754
OK James M. Inhofe R (202) 224-4721
OR Jeff Merkley D (202) 224-3753
OR Ron Wyden D (202) 224-5244
PA Robert P. Casey D (202) 224-6324
PA Patrick J. Toomey R (202) 224-4254
RI Jack Reed D (202) 224-4642
RI Sheldon Whitehouse D (202) 224-2921
SC Lindsey Graham R (202) 224-5972
SC Tim Scott R (202) 224-6121
SD Tim Johnson D (202) 224-5842
SD John Thune R (202) 224-2321
TN Lamar Alexander R (202) 224-4944
TN Bob Corker R (202) 224-3344
TX John Cornyn R (202) 224-2934
UT Orrin G. Hatch R (202) 224-5251
UT Mike Lee R (202) 224-5444
VA Tim Kaine D (202) 224-4024
VA Mark R. Warner D (202) 224-2023
VT Patrick J. Leahy D (202) 224-4242
VT Bernard Sanders I (202) 224-5141
WA Maria Cantwell D (202) 224-3441
WA Patty Murray D (202) 224-2621
WI Tammy Baldwin D (202) 224-5653
WI Ron Johnson R (202) 224-5323
WV Joe Manchin D (202) 224-3954
WV John D. Rockefeller D (202) 224-6472
WY John Barrasso R (202) 224-6441
WY Michael B. Enzi R (202) 224-3424

Now that we have your attention, you sorry US Senators, keep in mind that we will replace you with those who will gladly correct your errors - - - .

So, scrub and clean by 2014 !

Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick —————

- See more at: http://tedcruzforsenate.org/tell-your-senators-to-oppose-cloture-on-h-j-res-59/#sthash.CvqYzXvd.s4d7EOIg.dpuf
_______________________

TRAITORS:

Orrin Hatch
John Cornyn
Lamar’s caddy
John Thune
Linda Gayham
Tom Coburn
Roy Blunt
B*tch McConnell
Dan Coats
Juan McLame


18 posted on 09/27/2013 7:03:07 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tobyhill

In other words, he was expecting single payer. He just wanted to dump his employee healthcare expenses onto the public treasury, gratis, free and clear. Being naïve enough to think that the OTHER guy’s taxes will be raised to pay for it.

Business people who think like that are the reason Capitalism is going down in this country.


19 posted on 09/27/2013 7:08:26 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lazamataz

Well actually that is a task but we’re small so you’d have to have other duties.

If you can do application security code reviews, penetration tests (the kind with sql injection & Cookie manipulation)we can talk.


20 posted on 09/27/2013 7:08:59 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: VRWC For Truth

Yeah probably, I’m gambling that as part of the leasing company their numbers will be high enough that it won’t be a huge hit.

If it goes up too much I’ll have to pass the costs on to the employee.


21 posted on 09/27/2013 7:10:20 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: tobyhill

“”The difference between the hope they held out versus what they delivered is phenomenal,” he said. “

Flounder felt the same way:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOXtWxhlsUg


22 posted on 09/27/2013 7:11:49 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Just wanted to say I hope you great NSA folks are enjoying my posts here.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: driftdiver

XSS, XSRF, MITM, link- and image-injection... dude as a Federal Contractor on websites, you know I know my stuff. :)

But probably a mismatch. I’m a developer who defends against this stuff. Not so much an ethical hacker who penetrates. :)


23 posted on 09/27/2013 7:12:25 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Lazamataz

I was going for the innuendo. Knowing how to defend helps on the attack.

But you federal contractors make too much and are always posting on the web during work hours, unlike us private people. /s :)


24 posted on 09/27/2013 7:15:42 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: ClearCase_guy
Democrats

Don't blame the Democrats. The Republicans have the power to stop it and instead the entrenched are mostly siding with Obamacare.

25 posted on 09/27/2013 7:17:44 AM PDT by grania
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: driftdiver

LOL


26 posted on 09/27/2013 7:19:56 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: tobyhill

Socialists destroy all ‘free-enterprise’ entities they touch.

Automobile manufacturing, food distribution, land management, housing, transportation and now - insurance.

Health insurance companies have been successful - because of good risk management, competition and integrity.

When I began work as a health ins. claims adjuster I had a high percentage of denials and felt quite proud of my accomplishments - until the founder and President called me into his office. He stated that the reputation of the Company was built on trust: “Every claim is payable - except those that are not. So please, look for every rationale to pay benefits unless the loss falls outside the terms of the contract.”

When the Gubmint has no incentive to protect policy holders (tax payers), honor the contract or collect sufficient premiums to cover unexpected losses (not -abortion, pre-existing conditions, Viagra, sex reassignments and Pelosi’s botox).....it cannot possibly be called insurance.


27 posted on 09/27/2013 7:21:21 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: driftdiver

BTW, as a fed contractor, I make about 20-25K less than market. However, the work I do actually makes a REAL LIFE difference in infant lives, worldwide, and a direct difference. So... that satisfaction is a trade-off for the missing money.


28 posted on 09/27/2013 7:21:30 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: tobyhill

“who supported health care overhaul, but is less than thrilled with how it turned out.”

Historically this is the case EVERY time the government meddles in the market. That people don’t understand this concept is amazing to me!


29 posted on 09/27/2013 7:28:55 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #30 Removed by Moderator

To: dhs12345

Yup. Two part time jobs that is. No full time work.


More is better, right?


31 posted on 09/27/2013 8:19:38 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: ClearCase_guy

32 posted on 09/27/2013 8:39:17 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( When insane/feral Islamics are killing each other, stand back and let Allah sort them out!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Hotlanta Mike

Unlikely that it will be one contiguous 8 hours.


33 posted on 09/27/2013 9:51:35 AM PDT by dhs12345
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: tobyhill

Thus speaketh the first-class dupe. What an idiot.


34 posted on 09/28/2013 1:26:01 PM PDT by Tallguy (Hunkered down in Pennsylvania)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson