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Suspected thief dies following shootout with Marine
q13fox.com ^ | 24 September, 2013 | Jeff Van Sant

Posted on 09/27/2013 3:24:13 PM PDT by marktwain

MAPLE VALLEY — A suspected car thief died following a shootout with the car’s owner Tuesday morning, King County sheriff’s deputies said.

The incident happened just after midnight Tuesday in the 21800 block of SE 236th Place in Maple Valley.

According to sheriff’s deputies, a man walking his dog noticed a 27-year-old man attempting to steal his truck. The thief, realizing he had been spotted, left the truck and ran toward an awaiting getaway vehicle.

Deputies said the truck’s owner drew a gun and yelled “gun” in an attempt to stop the thief, who entered the getaway vehicle. The truck’s owner fired into the engine block, stopping the car. The thief then allegedly pulled a gun of his own and and the men exchanged gunfire. The truck’s owner fired multiple times at the thief, striking him.

The man was dead when police arrived at the scene. His identity has not been released. The truck’s owner — a Marine who served in Iraq — was briefly detained before being released, officials said. He has a valid concealed weapons permit.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: banglist; car; guncontrol; gunfight; secondamendment; wa
Washington State has fairly strong protections for defensive shooters, more so than most states.
1 posted on 09/27/2013 3:24:13 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Glad his truck is ok. That would have been the real tragedy.


2 posted on 09/27/2013 3:29:41 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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USMC

Mess with the best, die like the rest.


3 posted on 09/27/2013 3:29:59 PM PDT by InsidiousMongo
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To: marktwain

Shooting your own truck sucks, but the outcome was awesome.


4 posted on 09/27/2013 3:30:06 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: TurboZamboni

If I read correctly, it was the get away vehicle that was shot up. Not the Marine’s truck.


5 posted on 09/27/2013 3:32:10 PM PDT by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do the work Americans won't do)
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To: TurboZamboni

Who shot their own truck?


6 posted on 09/27/2013 3:32:17 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: InsidiousMongo

Urah!


7 posted on 09/27/2013 3:38:41 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: marktwain

In this situation, why does the article mention that the guy had a CCW permit. It was his truck, on his property. Of course, it is a “good thing” that he has a CCW, but I don’t see how it is relevant to what happened.


8 posted on 09/27/2013 3:40:06 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: passionfruit

My error. then the outcome was a win/win/win!


9 posted on 09/27/2013 3:41:10 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: marktwain

Great post! Love it!
I do wonder how the bullets hitting an engine block would stop a car, though.
Whatever... At least the thief is dead. All’s well that ends well.


10 posted on 09/27/2013 3:44:53 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: School of Rational Thought
A suspected car thief died following a shootout with the car’s owner...According to sheriff’s deputies, a man walking his dog noticed a 27-year-old man attempting to steal his truck.

It is written so it sounds as if one of the bad guys was stealing a car. Therefore, assuming one of the bad guy's owned the car, then he either got into a shootout with himself or the getaway driver of the car.

Nice creative writing! The author should win a prize. Now the marine could get in trouble for shooting a car thief instead of a truck thief. ;-)

I like all those holes in the car. About a dozen. I wonder what he was carrying.

11 posted on 09/27/2013 3:45:43 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: marktwain

The getaway car was a stolen Honda Accord. A female who was apparently the getaway car driver was arrested at the scene and charged.


12 posted on 09/27/2013 3:52:18 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

I have been told that a .357 magnum or anything larger like a .44 magnum will crack an engine block which could be enough to stop it.


13 posted on 09/27/2013 3:53:58 PM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: Lancey Howard

Pretty sure a bullet would not stop the engine in my dually—a 454 gas version, which weighs about 550# on it’s own. All cast iron—NO aluminum!


14 posted on 09/27/2013 4:03:16 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Lancey Howard
I do wonder how the bullets hitting an engine block would stop a car, though.

Most late model vehicles have a plastic intake manifold. .22LR will stop the engine if the manifold is holed. I took some junk engine parts to a friends shooting spot. .308 will blow chunks out of a cast iron head or block. As will .223, but not such big chunks.

.357 Magnum and .44 magnum will bust up aluminum blocks and heads, marginal on cast iron. The plastic intake is vulnerable to even mouse guns, and most V-6 and V-8 engines have plastic intakes for the last 10 years.

For 35 years I have looked at engines I was working on, deciding just where to shoot to stop one. If I have my M1A even a Dodge diesel will stop on command.

15 posted on 09/27/2013 4:11:28 PM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

Thanks for the info!


16 posted on 09/27/2013 4:13:04 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: marktwain

Never bring a gun to a Marine fight.


17 posted on 09/27/2013 4:14:06 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: ridesthemiles
I don't know what a "dually" is, but the best car I ever owned was a 1970 Monte Carlo SS454. That thing was a rocket ship. I sold it in 1979 because gas went up to 75c / gallon.


18 posted on 09/27/2013 4:16:17 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: School of Rational Thought

Ed Schultz shot his own dog.


19 posted on 09/27/2013 4:20:48 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Lancey Howard
My Pleasure. I think every prepper should spend a bit of time looking at the engines of common cars and trucks - there may be a need to stop one. Like this Marine had to.

Shooting old car parts is fun, but not the safest thing in the world to do. I should have took pictures.

20 posted on 09/27/2013 4:23:14 PM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: TurboZamboni

he shot the other getaway vehicle.


21 posted on 09/27/2013 4:28:40 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ridesthemiles

“Pretty sure a bullet would not stop the engine in my dually—a 454 gas version, which weighs about 550# on it’s own. All cast iron—NO aluminum!”

Actually, it probably would. Magnums have been used for this purpose by police since they were first available. They could break flathead Fords, and “modern” (post-1950’s) engines have better thin wall casting techniques. Some of those old engines were amazingly heavy (with cast-in oil pans) given their displacement.

You might think that an aluminum engine would be better, but the aluminum engine blocks are generally made with high silicon content, and are strong, but brittle.


22 posted on 09/27/2013 5:08:23 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: marktwain; All

Pretty low on my list of things to do is “engage in gun battle with a Marine”.... I guess loser criminal had that much higher on list


23 posted on 09/27/2013 6:43:25 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Unemployment is so high...its getting harder for Obama to job people anymore)
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To: The Antiyuppie
Actually, it probably would.

You're correct. Unless people have actually worked on rebuilding an engine, they may not realize it isn't a solid block of metal. The block has thin walls enclosing water and oil passageways (tunnels). Doesn't take much to penetrate many areas and cause a shutdown of an engine. Often, just simple debris in the air intake (enclosed in plastic) will destroy valves and pistons.

24 posted on 09/27/2013 7:32:52 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: marktwain
Washington State has fairly strong protections for defensive shooters, more so than most states.

Nonetheless they are apparently supposed to let a dirtbag

Steal Their Vehicle

25 posted on 09/27/2013 8:10:17 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: marktwain

...recoil...


26 posted on 09/28/2013 3:02:15 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: marktwain
The truck’s owner fired into the engine block, stopping the car.

Reminds me of an old cartoon in an American Rifleman mag during the '60s. Shows a guy holding a .44 Magnum with smoke wafting from the barrel and saying "Packs quite a wallop, doesn't it?" Next to him is a car with the hood up, a hole in the engine, and smoke wafting up from it too.

27 posted on 09/28/2013 3:30:15 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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