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Shift in policy? Phone call between Obama, Rouhani (president of Iran)
CNN ^ | Sept 27, 2013 | Chelsea J. Carter

Posted on 09/27/2013 3:25:23 PM PDT by Innovative

President Barack Obama spoke by telephone with Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, the first direct conversation between leaders of the United States and Iran since 1979.

Obama believes a comprehensive agreement is possible regarding Iran's nuclear ambitions, telling reporters at the White House that "the test will be meaningful, transparent and verifiable action" and if proven would ease international sanctions in place against Iran.

The news of the historic telephone conversation between the two presidents also played out on Twitter in Rouhani's posts. It was unclear whether Rouhani was retweeting direct messages between the two or curating his conversation on Twitter.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: genocide; hassanrouhani; iran; nuclear; obama; obamaspeople; rouhani; terrorism; threatmatrix
I don't know whether to laugh or cry...
1 posted on 09/27/2013 3:25:23 PM PDT by Innovative
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To: Innovative

I say cry. It does not have to be Iran, if Obama wants to be friends, they are NOT on our side.


2 posted on 09/27/2013 3:26:59 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Innovative

U.S. in touch with Israel about Obama talk with Iranian leader

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/27/un-assembly-iran-usa-idUSW1N0AJ01N20130927

“The United States has communicated with the Israeli government about President Barack Obama’s phone conversation with Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, a senior administration official said on Friday.”

How nice! (/sarc)


3 posted on 09/27/2013 3:27:06 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

Drudge headlines:

OBAMA NEGOTIATES WITH TEHRAN
BUT NOT REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS


4 posted on 09/27/2013 3:31:40 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: Innovative

Nuclear talks show US shift from Israel on Iran: Analyst

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/09/27/326396/us-distancing-self-from-israel-on-iran/

“The recent nuclear talks between Iran and six world powers signal a shift in the United States’ policy on Iran, with Washington distancing itself from Israel’s scenario against the Islamic Republic, a political analyst tells Press TV. “

Translation - not that it’s needed — “Obama is throwing Israel under the bus” — except worse.


5 posted on 09/27/2013 3:32:33 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

How many times did B. Hussien say “Allahu Akbar”?


6 posted on 09/27/2013 3:33:09 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: Innovative

Wait until they agree upon a 7 year peace deal.


7 posted on 09/27/2013 3:40:37 PM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: Innovative

Obama spoke in Farsi. Did anyone know he speaks Farsi? I doubt that was supposed to get out. He’s muslim to the core.


8 posted on 09/27/2013 3:42:12 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Innovative

Obama shows more respect towards dictators than he does Republicans..perhaps leaders of the GOP need to put on a turban and scream Allah Akbar, than Obama will work with them


9 posted on 09/27/2013 3:51:28 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Innovative

Obama assisting Iran by buying them more time to develop nuclear weapons. This ‘negotiations with Iran’ bullcrap should yield results about as fast as 0bama’s Benghazi investigation, or IRS investigation, or DOJ spying on Fox News investigation..


10 posted on 09/27/2013 3:57:35 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: ScaniaBoy; annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; ...
We are witnessing the final step in the creation of the caliphate, and as I have said many times, obama has come down squarely in iran's corner. The saudis cannot possibly be happy about this.

This is a Threat Matrix list documenting threats within and without. Anyone wanting on or off please advise.


11 posted on 09/27/2013 4:01:43 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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To: edpc

Scary that is....


12 posted on 09/27/2013 4:13:15 PM PDT by seeker41 (take your country back by whatever means necessary)
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To: Innovative

It appears to me that since ALL of this is completely out of my hands, I’m choosing to neither laugh nor cry.
I will love those near and dear to me, stay true to what I know is the basic right from wrong, and smile; I know how this story ends, even if the little boy believes differently.


13 posted on 09/27/2013 4:30:44 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: Innovative

I’m surprised The Won didn’t chase-down the Iranian guy (Rouhani?) at the UN and bow down to him.


14 posted on 09/27/2013 4:32:41 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

“I’m surprised The Won didn’t chase-down the Iranian guy (Rouhani?) at the UN and bow down to him.”

He did try — it was Rouhani who didn’t want to talk to him...

Rouhani declines to meet Obama at United Nations General Assembly

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/obama-hassan-rouhani-meeting-97278.html


15 posted on 09/27/2013 4:38:14 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

Obama gets stood up by Iran’s theocrats

http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/24/obama-gets-stood-up-by-irans-theocrats/

‘Iran’s new president spurned a meeting with President Barack Obama Sept. 24, despite repeated invites from Obama’s staff.’

What did they finally offer him to make him willing to talk to Obama on the phone at least...


16 posted on 09/27/2013 4:43:15 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

The phoniness continues and the media fawns all over it. As usual.


17 posted on 09/27/2013 4:46:41 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44
I know how this story ends, even if the little boy believes differently.

We all do. It doesn't take a genius to be pResident. We proved the theory to be true, that, ANYBODY can grow up to be pResident.

18 posted on 09/27/2013 4:49:07 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Innovative

Cross reference — see also:

Israel TV: Iran will have enough uranium for a bomb in 2 months

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3072153/posts


19 posted on 09/27/2013 4:52:11 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: MestaMachine

I was talking with a friend today whose son is in the army. We have quite a few young men from our church in the service.

She said morale is SO low in the armed forces. Many of the guys can’t wait to get out. She said in boot camp nowadays, they aren’t allowed to make the guys follow orders. They aren’t getting trained right and it’s turning into every man for himself, there is not the camaraderie of old (well there is as far as the enlisted men can create it, but not as far as the culture instilled from the higher ups.) She was talking about how over in Afghanistan (and probably everywhere) they have to try to follow orders from both their COs and other COs from NATO, sometimes conflicting orders, and trying to sort out what they are really supposed to do is frustrating and dangerous. Then with all the “rules of engagement”, traitorous acts by locals who are supposed to be working with our military and then turn on them, etc. She said it’s just really, really dangerous now, even though an enlisted man’s life is always in danger, at least before you felt that the military had your back. No more.

It made me want to cry - thinking of our guys over there and what they are all going through. She said most of the guys her son knows can’t wait to get out, even though many loved the military and wanted to serve their country, now they just can’t get out fast enough.

It’s just one more thing Obama is destroying. I would hate to think what would happen if we faced a real threat closer to home. I would hope some of the old school military leaders would step up and kick out the new school politically correct brass and bring back discipline and order.

Pray for our troops.


20 posted on 09/27/2013 5:00:37 PM PDT by boxlunch (Psalm 2)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Interesting. I did not know that a sunni from indonesia would speak farsi. Very interesting. If true.


21 posted on 09/27/2013 5:07:07 PM PDT by SisterK (its all a spiritual war)
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To: edpc

Bells and sirens if they agree upon a seven year peace treaty.
But, everything is in God’s time. Not satan’s time.


22 posted on 09/27/2013 5:10:06 PM PDT by SisterK (its all a spiritual war)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Where did you get the idea that O spoke in Farsi? I did not read that (may have missed it). I suppose The One could have taken Farsi lessons between golf outings.

His CIA director is a Muslim.


23 posted on 09/27/2013 5:24:25 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: tsowellfan

Obama is not on our side.


24 posted on 09/27/2013 5:49:20 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: VerySadAmerican

I caught that, too. I remember Obama saying a long time ago he was not bilingual. Something else he lied about?


25 posted on 09/27/2013 5:50:43 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: shalom aleichem; VerySadAmerican

It was in the news that he did use ONE Farsi word — I don’t know what it meant — he was just trying to show “camaraderie” to Iran’s president...


26 posted on 09/27/2013 5:51:12 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Innovative.

> the first direct conversation between leaders of the United States and Iran since 1979.

The ideal outcome would be face to face talks between the two “leaders”, during which a wahhabi / salafist / (fill in the blank from the pro-Iranian playbook) jihadist suicide bomber blows both of them to bits.

I’d be headed for Disneyworld if that happened.


27 posted on 09/27/2013 5:51:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: shalom aleichem

It may be that someone whispered in his ear something to say. I caught it on Blitzer’s show.

I guess it could be in the same vein as Kennedy at the Berlin Wall. The thing about it is nothing would surprise me about this slime.


28 posted on 09/27/2013 5:56:29 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Innovative

The two men talked through interpreters, but the tweet from @HassanRouhani said they ended by signing off in each other’s language. “In a phone conversation b/w #Iranian & #US Presidents just now: @HassanRouhani: ‘Have a Nice Day!’ @BarackObama: ‘Thank you. Khodahafez,’” the tweet said, quoting Obama as using the Farsi word for good-bye.

http://www.news1130.com/2013/09/27/obama-speaks-to-irans-rouhani-says-he-believes-resolution-to-nuclear-concerns-is-possible/


29 posted on 09/27/2013 6:10:56 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Innovative
Obama believes a comprehensive agreement is possible regarding Iran's nuclear ambitions,

The word "comprehensive" should raise red flags.

I think Iran realizes that Obama and others in Washington are doing more damage to America than they could ever hope to do.

30 posted on 09/27/2013 6:22:05 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Innovative

It’s pure window dressing. A chat between two members of the Muslim Brotherhood.


31 posted on 09/27/2013 7:11:15 PM PDT by miserare (Fire Eric Holder!)
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To: MestaMachine

Mesta, you are always right!


32 posted on 09/27/2013 7:12:56 PM PDT by miserare (Fire Eric Holder!)
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To: boxlunch

It is awful what is happening, I only served one hitch in the Navy but that was in the early sixties. In the seventies I serviced printing equipment on some military bases and discipline was already far more lax than in my time. With what is going on now if any young person should ask I would tell them to have nothing to do with today’s military. I am very glad that I volunteered and have often said that the Navy did for me many times over what I ever did for the Navy but it is a different story now. The idea that recruits in boot camp cannot be made to follow orders sounds like science fiction to someone from my time. I know that Navy boot camp was far easier than Marine or even Army boot camp but it was not a walk in the park in 1962. You did as you were told or you were sent home in disgrace and you might spend some time in a cell before you went home in disgrace. Of course it was a lot easier to make a young boy of my generation feel disgraced, I have a niece who literally deserted from her first duty station after Army boot camp and it was two years before the Sheriff’s department came for her and then they kept her for one week at Fort Knox and turned her loose again. In my day they would have sent Marines to fetch me and I would have done a hitch in prison.


33 posted on 09/27/2013 7:14:14 PM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: Innovative

Shift in sanity.


34 posted on 09/27/2013 7:27:50 PM PDT by shineon (.)
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To: Innovative

“We, the German Führer and Chancellor, and the British Prime Minister, have had a further meeting today and are agreed in recognizing that the question of Anglo-German relations is of the first importance for two countries and for Europe.

“We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again.

“We are resolved that the method of consultation shall be the method adopted to deal with any other questions that may concern our two countries, and we are determined to continue our efforts to remove possible sources of difference, and thus to contribute to assure the peace of Europe.”
Chamberlain read this statement to a cheering crowd in front of 10 Downing St. and said;

“My good friends this is the second time in our history that there has come back from Germany to Downing Street peace with honor. I believe it is peace in our time.”


35 posted on 09/27/2013 9:41:31 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: barmag25

I think everybody knows what happened after those remarks.


36 posted on 09/27/2013 9:43:03 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: barmag25

The difference is that chamberlain was naive and trusting. It IS hard to fathom such an evil as hitler.
obama has no such excuse, His allegiance was sworn during his training in Pakistan and he has worked towards that goal ever since.
He has handed over Afghanistan and Iraq to iran and iran is the reason he was so extraordinarily reticent about removing assad.
I might also point out to the people who think that iran and al qaeda are at odds with each other, that bin laden sent his family for asylum to iran and zawahiri travels between iran and pakistan at will and is even honored in iran.
Nothing is ever as it seems in the ME and even when it becomes more than obvious, people STILL don’t undertand what they are seeing with their own eyes because they have been so deft at propaganda and confusing issues or making it up as they go.


37 posted on 09/27/2013 10:42:35 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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To: MestaMachine

This is straight up treason! He has, from day one, abnegated his oath in office! He must be impeached!


38 posted on 09/27/2013 11:37:45 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Innovative
The news of the historic telephone conversation between the two presidents... I guess having another country's top dog diss an American prez for a face-to-face, then having the American prez beg for an audience via phone is historic, in a very sad way.
39 posted on 09/28/2013 3:32:54 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: MestaMachine

“The difference is that chamberlain was naive and trusting. It IS hard to fathom such an evil as hitler.
obama has no such excuse, His allegiance was sworn during his training in Pakistan and he has worked towards that goal ever since.”

BINGO!

He is deliberately perpetrating “the big lie” — nobody can believe that he is on the side of the enemy, so they don’t even consider that possibility, they listen to his words, instead of believing what they see with their own eyes, that every single one of his actions is done to our detriment.

“The Big Lie

Techniques > Propaganda > The Big Lie

Method

Make a claim that is so outrageous that people will assume that it cannot be a lie, and so accept it as truth.

Strongly assert the lie. Massage available data to ‘prove’ the lie as being true. Reframe vigorous denial as proof of guilt.


40 posted on 09/28/2013 5:27:41 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: sheik yerbouty; barmag25; MestaMachine

From mestamachine’s post above sheikyerbouty’s:

” The difference is that chamberlain was naive and trusting. It IS hard to fathom such an evil as hitler. obama has no such excuse,His allegiance was sworn during his training in Pakistan and he has worked towards that goal ever since. He has handed over Afghanistan and Iraq to iran and iran is the reason he was so extraordinarily reticent about removing assad. .....”

The above actions constitute “aiding and abetting the enemy”, and is listed among the actions for which one can be accused of committing treason.

Treason is grounds for impeachment.

Also note “...his allegiance was sworn during his training in Pakistan...”

Mesta, sourcing that piece of information is vital!


41 posted on 09/28/2013 5:44:28 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

Post #37.


42 posted on 09/28/2013 5:45:49 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: MestaMachine; LucyT

Mesta, this part of your post stood out:

“... obama has no such excuse,His allegiance was sworn during his training in Pakistan and he has worked towards that goal ever since. ....”

Very important to highlight this and bring it out, and show the usurpers real roots.... if it can be shown that he trained there, and was radicalized there, then the charge of treason can be brought!

LucyT, ping to post #37!!!!

Needs its own thread!!!!


43 posted on 10/01/2013 6:01:18 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57; LucyT

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3072117/posts?page=37#37

Link for post #37


44 posted on 10/01/2013 6:02:23 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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