Why Rat Senators Kept Obamacare

[Jacquerie]

In 2010, the damage Obamacare would do to our society and economy was theoretical. Drafted by undisclosed Leftists, its contents were not known before the world’s most deliberative body passed it on a strictly party-line vote.

Earlier this past week, Senator Ted Cruz eloquently dissected Obamacare. In over twenty hours, and with the help of long dead but esteemed philosophers, he explicated its assault on our most cherished freedoms. He brought their theories home to the present, and itemized the effect Obamacare has had on employment, poverty, business growth, and religious freedom. Throw in the cries for exemptions by all categories of business and labor groups, and there is no doubt Obamacare is a canker on our society, whose cruel effects will grow exponentially.

Like everyone else, rat senators know what Obamacare means. It isn’t theory, it is real.

So, why did rat senators double down in evil, when they knew their constituents, those to whom they are responsible, will be harmed?

[CMailBag]

Because they don’t give an Obama about the little people??

[kempster]

Because they also know that the key to total control is through everyone’s health.

[Jack Hydrazine]

So they can be voted out of office by their collectivist constituency?

[jonose]

Because 0 has FBI/NSA/irs/ records on them and family members?

[Liz]

DR BEN CARSON ... the freedom of Americans to control their own health care needs is being threatened by massive governmental interference....an attempt to fundamentally change America, to take control of our most important possession: our health.....

We're mad as h*** and we're not gonna take it any more. Get going, Freepers.

TALKING POINTS Obama/crats are attempting to tax, gather data, and otherwise collapse what remains of the private healthcare delivery system. Obamacare is not about healthcare or even insurance coverage, it is about centrally controlling from DC every aspect of your life.

Your doctor will be their informant on how you live, work and eat while their IRS agents will monitor every financial aspect of your life in the guise of keeping you healthy. There will not be one part of your life they will not only know but control through the Unaffordable Healthcare Act. This is a dream come true for the central planners who run the Communist....er, I mean....…Democrat Party and the worst nightmare for your average American.

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How to middle finger the O/Crats: We know the O/Care ship is listing---
ready to heave--- maybe do a Costa Concordia into the Potomac.

THE BAD NEWS KEEPS COMING Reuters reports the US government on Wednesday scaled back its projections for Obamacare's impact in 2014, saying the law would generate slower healthcare spending growth and provide coverage to only half as many of America's uninsured as anticipated last year.

The biggest factor in the change stems from the U.S. Supreme Court verdict last year allowing each state to decide whether to expand the public Medicaid program for the poor under Obama's healthcare reform law. Republican leaders in nearly half of the nation's 50 states have rejected the expansion.

HHS now expects 11 million uninsured Americans to obtain coverage next year, down from about 22 million projected a year ago, according to the report, which appeared in the journal Health Affairs. (Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...

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There's also lawsuits and state problems.

HERE'S HOW THEY'RE STOPPING OBAMACARE A West Virginia nonprofit has turned down a federal grant it received to help residents navigate new health insurance options under the Affordable Care Act after it received an inquiry from Attorney General Patrick Morrisey about how it would protect consumer information. Clarksburg-based West Virginia Parent Training Inc. did not respond to a letter it received from Morrisey directing it to answer 26 questions about the group's personnel and hiring practices, including employee background checks and employee monitoring programs, the Sunday Gazette-Mail (http://bit.ly/17M1QVe) reported. (Excerpt) Read more at sanluisobispo.com ...

YOUR TURN--Contact your state AG---ask him/her to issue a letter of inquiry to groups receiving federal "Navigator" grants. The inquiry should center on questions WRT how the group intends to protect consumer data.

In particular, the questionnaire should ask if the tax-funded "Navigator" program intends to transfer personal/ financial/medical data of the insured to the local/county/national Democrat Party, relevant Unions, banks, investment companies, drug companies, insurance companies. Trial Lawyers' associations and whether "Navigators" have sub rosa contracts with these, and other groups, plan to profit, to provide significant info to enrich databases for pecuniary purposes.

The AG also needs to confirm (1) whether the "navigator" was ever convicted of a felony....... and....(2) whether the "navigator" can be bonded.

Most importantly demand that your AG enforce the requirement that "Navigators" must have a state insurance license (consists of a comprehensive test on all aspects of insurance and compels a background check).

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD WILL HAVE ACCESS TO SS#, TAX, MEDICAL INFORMATION
Breitbart Big Government ^ | 8/23/2013 | William Bigelow / FR Posted by markomalley

EXCERPT Planned Parenthood is about to obtain access to your Social Security number, tax form, bank account, and medical records.

With the advent of ObamaCare, consumers buying health insurance through health care exchanges will be required to speak to “navigators.” “Navigators” are supposed to help consumers find the best coverage and ascertain whether they are eligible for a federal subsidy.

Any “navigator” will have access to the federal data hub, which holds information from the Department of Health and Human Services, the IRS, the Social Security Administration, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), the Defense Department, the Office of Personnel Management, the Veterans Health Administration, and the Peace Corps.

Planned Parenthood received $655,000 from the Obama administration to hire navigators. In Iowa, Planned Parenthood of the Heartland received $214,427; in Montana, Intermountain Planned Parenthood, Inc. got $295,604; and in New Hampshire, Planned Parenthood of Northern New England raked in $145,161.

And there is not much scrutiny over who these “navigators” will be; HHS will not require background checks or fingerprinting, and a previous criminal conviction, even if it was for identity theft , will not trigger a rejection. To make matters worse, the administration has cut the new employees’ training from 30 hours to 20 and reduced screening.

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OKLAHOMA WINS FIRST OCARE BATTLE: Quoting AG Pruitt--- "Obamacare was meant to be so open-ended that it could mean anything. We are seeing thousands of pages of new rules being written, both by HHS and the IRS. The open-ended interpretation of Obamacare enables this.....if the law doesn't contain a particular provision, no problem. They just make it up as they go along."

"Such is the case that involves the OK lawsuit."

“The court rejected the federal government’s argument that Oklahoma lacked standing to challenge the law, allowing us to proceed with this pivotal case,” “We’re optimistic the court will recognize what states have known for months that the IRS disregarded the law by making the large employer mandate effective in Oklahoma or in any of the 33 other states without a state health care exchange.”

REFERENCE Oklahoma challenged implementation of the Affordable Care Act after the IRS finalized a rule that would allow the federal government to punish “large employers,” including local government, with millions of dollars in tax penalties in states without state health care exchanges, which is not allowed under the health care law.

“Congress provided a choice for Oklahoma and other states in implementation of the health care law, and the IRS is attempting to take that away by rule,” General Pruitt said. “The administration miscalculated how many states would support this law, so now they’re using the IRS to push through provisions that Congress did not pass.”

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PROTECT YOURSELF---Obamacare is easy pickins for identity thieves. Steps to take to minimize risk of identity theft:

1. Contact the IRS Identity Protection Specialized Unit at 1-800-908-4490

2. Order a tax account transcript from the IRS that verifies basic personal data along with details of your tax return filed, which may come in handy if you are checking to see whether someone else filed a fraudulent return on your behalf

The Federal Trade Commission (link at website) also lists several steps you must take if you have been a victim of identity theft.

SOURCE http://www.cnbc.com/id/100918004

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Obamacare pulse rate low.....vital signs at dangerous levels.

[yldstrk]

I used to think people liked good people and didn’t like bad. Now I think most people are bad and feel better when they know others are bad too and most hate and try to destroy good people.

[gotribe]

Because they cannot face down a black man, regardless of what that black man does.

[Slambat]

“Because 0 has FBI/NSA/irs/ records on them and family members?”

This is most likely the case.

[Jim Noble]

Way too complicated.

In 1965, Congress created a monstrosity when it passed Medicare and Medicaid. They KNEW they were going to have to pay a lot of bills. They did not know, at the time, that the promise to pay bills without limit would create an entire industry.

Congress lost the ability to meet its promise to pay without limit through taxation by 1986. Since then, they have been printing and borrowing money as fast as possible to keep up.

Almost all of them, RAT and GOP, understand that continued spending under a “pay without limit” promise will cause a disaster. The reason so many of them have gone for commiecare is that the commies promise that they have a solution.

Most non-communist Members and Senators, being not too bright, have not a clue about how to avoid the obvious upcoming collapse. AND, they understand that their constituents will NOT be happy with them if they allow disaster while they are in office.

That’s it in a nutshell. They are not bribed, most of them, and they are not blackmailed.

They’re just ordinary mooks who are stuck with Medicare and Medicaid and who are clueless about what to do about it.

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

It’s the Chicago Way.

[txrefugee]

Let the cult members of the Obama Youth Brigade pay double and triple for their coverage for the next twenty years to make their idol’s “signature achievement” work. They richly deserve it.

[Doogle]

control AND RICHES
What better information does one want when these health exchanges start to get millions of people registering....bet all political “friends” will be cleaning up with stock options. Thats why HEAD RAT REID wants to keep the insider trading they can do...

[jsanders2001]

I wonder how much the contracts are going to be worth to the limited number of insurance companies that will be providing health care coverage and how much they and the Leftists paid those politicians to betray us to bring about our enslavement. If people with pitchforks and torches show up at the homes of the traitor senators they shouldn’t be surprised after one of the greatest betrayals of all time to the American people.

[jsanders2001]

> I used to think people liked good people and didn’t like bad. Now I think most people are bad and feel better when they know others are bad too and most hate and try to destroy good people.

I think there are a lot more good people than bad in this world, however there are a lot of naieve and easily led people who are just too stupid, complacent, or downright lazy that live too cushy a lifestyle to give a damn. Once they become homeless or destitute thewheels will start spinning in their but it will be too late.

[buckalfa]

"Drafted by Leftists"

To be absolutely correct you would have to add the AMA, for profit hospitals, and insurance companies to your list. Then again, maybe those groups are run by leftists. Follow the money, always follow the money.

[Josa]

Yep, stupid and lazy dominate our society....and they are essentially paid to vote against the producers

[Mouton]

That is a good theory, one of the better ones out there.

The only way to balance that portion of the budget screwed over by Medicare and somewhat by medicaid is to reduce expenditures by however they can even to the extent of saying to those over say 70: take two asperins and call me next year, if you can.

[Ann Archy]

BINGO!!! That is EXACTLY what makes a Democrat!!!

[Josa]

I am allergic to aspirin. I am really screwed

[randita]

Democrats’ most loyal constituency is that of government dependents. Direct taxation is a hard sell. So they have to come up with wonderful sounding ideas to divert more money from the private sector to the public to keep fostering that dependency. They know that once you throw a bone to the masses, it’s nearly impossible to take it back.

What’s more wonderful sounding than “we’re going to fix it so that you get the best health care possible and you’re going to pay less for it than you do now”?

A majority of people bought the idea, despite warnings.

Democrats are team players, through and through, and enough Democrats on the fence were thrown a fig leaf for their votes. Most of those resigned (knowing they would lose) or were kicked out in 2010 and those that are left are sweating bullets over this, you can be sure.

The camel’s nose was let into the tent, so I personally think that it will be very difficult to repeal Obamacare in total. If Republicans keep the House and take the Senate, it will still be difficult to make changes for the next couple of years as Obama will veto any attempt to change it.

Unless...it is such a humongous train wreck that we have a wholesale revolt. If that’s the case, Obama’s hand may be forced because his party’s survival will depend on it.

The GOP will need the presidency, House and Senate to enact significant changes.

[Principled]

I have pondered, questioned, and quizzed this same topic for a week now. All I get back from the Senators is gobbledygook of course - and all I get from FReepers is sarcastic one-liners [albeit good ones] about 0bama and his band of losers... but never anything of substance. It seems that nobody really can answer this question.

The closest this article came was to assert that the Senators in question did not want to be seen as shutting it down. This is actually the most logical of the “explanations I’ve come across [with one very major problem though.]

If the Senate never gets to vote on the bill purely b/c of no cloture, then it would indeed be very clear that the Senate Rs did indeed prevent the senate from even voting to keep the gov open. This line of thought does not judge the value of such strategy - just makes it clear that the Senate Rs would be nailed for being responsible. Even I get that.

The major problem I have with resolving this as the major component of opposition is that despite my continual quest for information, this never came out. Not from the Senators I was able to ask, not from anyone.

Maybe it’s just that I understand the big picture better now - but just damn why didn’t the Senators just say this? That’s why I doubt it as a major force.

After all, if no cloture then when would Senators get to go on record in support or opposition to 0bamacare? They wouldn’t. But the gov’t would shut down unless the House soon followed up with separate component bills funding pieces. Everyone would vote on those and if they didn’t pass, THAT would be the D’s fault - and this should have been the strategy from the get-go.

And that should be the strategy now.

[InterceptPoint]

I heard an interesting Obamacare theory a few days ago that relates to the issue of Pre-Existing Conditions.

Obamacare requires that you pay a penalty if you fail to purchase health insurance through the Exchange System. That penalty is far less than the cost of health insurance.

Assume you are young and apparently healthy. You take the penalty and forget the insurance. But then, suddenly, you are diagnosed with cancer. It’s cureable but only if you can spend $250,000 over a few years for medical treatment.

What to do? What to do? Well, just buy a some health insurance at the same cost as anyone else. That’s the law. The insurance companies cannot charge a premium because of the pre-existing condition.

Will people game the system?

Will this lead to the slow but sure destruction of the Health Insurance industry?

Will this lead to a Marxist Single Payer Health Care System?

As a famous lady once told us: You Betcha.

[Jim Noble]

saying to those over say 70: take two asperins and call me next year, if you can

Good luck with that.

[bert]

——You take the penalty——

Actually, the Supreme Court ruled that you are paying a tax on not buying insurance

[Jacquerie]

I think most of the comments here point toward the reason rats once again voted for Obamacare. Follow the money.

Not many of us put principle ahead of our livelihoods, and arrogant senators, drunk with power are rarely among such people.

Obama controls the DNC and DSCC.

Not a single senate rat voted against Obamacare because it would be political suicide to lose campaign funding support. Go along with Obama, and campaign funds will flow. Oppose Him and expect to be primaried.

To whom are senators accountable? The people of their states? As this week’s showdown over Obamacare funding illustrates, rat senators, who know that Obamacare is strangling our economy and destroying health services, will continue to support the man who controls the campaign funds that will get them reelected.

Isn’t democracy grand?

[pallis]

Since when have Rats cared about the damage they do? The fanatical left is so far detached from the reality of their actions, they might as well live on another planet, along with their RINO servants.

[Jacquerie]

I got into the reason in #26, and add here:

The point is that separation of powers has been corrupted in a way I haven't read of anywhere else.

The executive exerts influence in the senate such that it does the president's will. We think of it as business as usual. The practice is a gross violation, and would be seen so by our framers. It gets no attention because so few of us understand the danger, and Obama has perpetrated other, more visible violations.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Jacquerie.

Earlier this past week, Senator Ted Cruz eloquently dissected Obamacare. In over twenty hours, and with the help of long dead but esteemed philosophers, he explicated its assault on our most cherished freedoms. He brought their theories home to the present, and itemized the effect Obamacare has had on employment, poverty, business growth, and religious freedom. Throw in the cries for exemptions by all categories of business and labor groups, and there is no doubt Obamacare is a canker on our society, whose cruel effects will grow exponentially. Like everyone else, rat senators know what Obamacare means.

[Pagey]

BTTT!

[randita]

As this week’s showdown over Obamacare funding illustrates, rat senators, who know that Obamacare is strangling our economy and destroying health services, will continue to support the man who controls the campaign funds that will get them reelected.

Then let's hope they pour endless sums of money into losing campaigns because there are going to be many Obamacare supporting elected Democrats in red, purple, AND blue states who are going to have their feet held to the fire next year and ARE going to lose.

[Jack Hydrazine]

Should it really surprise me?

Coast2CoastAM had the topic last night called Alternative Media Special. The email that I received about it said...

‘Filling in for George, John B. Wells hosted a discussion on alternative media with a panel of guests appearing throughout the night. In the first hour, journalist Abby Martin detailed the trouble she got in for asking Senator Rand Paul about his endorsement of Mitt Romney. After the confrontation with Paul the Capitol police called her employer and threatened to have her arrested for stalking and harassment, Martin revealed. She said the experience taught her how things really work in D.C., noting how the political establishment and corporate media apparatus have created an environment there in which only vetted pre-approved appearances are allowed. “[The media] might as well be state run,” she chided.’

The more I learn about how DC is run the more justified I am in calling it the District of Criminals.