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Frustrated Republicans Vent after Senate Vote
National Review Online ^ | September 27, 2013 5:32 PM | Betsy Woodruff

Posted on 09/28/2013 8:29:24 AM PDT by Hojczyk

One Senate aide blamed Corker’s spotlight-grabbing role as Cruz’s foil on weak Republican leadership. “Because our leadership has not led for a number of months because of electoral politics, Senator McCain and Senator Graham and Senator Corker have sort of emerged as sort of de facto leaders in a leadership vacuum,” he says. “I like Senator Cornyn, I like Senator McConnell, I respect them, I know their colleagues respect them, but in fairness there just has not been a whole lot of direction, there’s really been no strategy.”

“It might not work,” he adds of Cruz and Lee’s efforts (we spoke a few minutes before the vote), “but what’s the alternative that leadership or anyone else is offering? What’s Bob Corker’s plan?”

It’s messy, and there’s plenty of tension to go around. When asked about the level of frustration directed at his boss, an aide for a senator involved in the defund efforts says, laughing, that “it’s about as high as I’ve ever seen it.”

“I wouldn’t want to test it to see if it could go much higher,” he adds. “Change is hard. People don’t like changes.”

They also don’t like being targeted by members of their own party. Senator Lindsey Graham reiterated to me his frustration with some of his fellow Senate Republicans. “My fate is in my hands, not theirs, and they said some things about our colleagues that I just think are really out of line,” he adds of Cruz et al. “At the end of the day,” he continues, “they’ve got to decide what kind of role they want to play, I’ve got to decide what kind of role I want to play to grow the Republican party and to save the country.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Kentucky; US: South Carolina; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bobcorker; johncornyn; kentucky; lindseygraham; lundergangrimes; mattbevin; mitchmcconnell; nancymace; southcarolina; tedcruz; texas
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1 posted on 09/28/2013 8:29:24 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Time for a third party ?????


2 posted on 09/28/2013 8:30:21 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Corker, the scumbag, voted with the RATS to fully implement 0bamacare....and EXEMPT himself, his family and his slimey staff. They get the Cadillac program while we get the death camps!

The 25 traitors can try to claim they didnt but true is true!
A$$wipes!


3 posted on 09/28/2013 8:33:33 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: Hojczyk

If the GOP nominates Christie in 2016 I may stay home.


4 posted on 09/28/2013 8:33:50 AM PDT by Perdogg (Ted Cruz-Rand Paul 2016)
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To: Hojczyk

Those Rino repubs that stood shoulder to shoulder with Harry Reid have just displayed their true colors. They are more interested in getting re-elected that doing their constituents will.


5 posted on 09/28/2013 8:34:18 AM PDT by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: Hojczyk
“I like Senator Cornyn, I like Senator McConnell, I respect them, I know their colleagues respect them, but in fairness there just has not been a whole lot of direction, there’s really been no strategy.”

Think NSA spying .... and it all makes sense. Add SCOTUS also...?

6 posted on 09/28/2013 8:34:21 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: Hojczyk
Time for a third party ?????

Or clean out and reorganize the Republican Party. I'm disgusted with McCain and Graham

7 posted on 09/28/2013 8:35:31 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Hojczyk

“Time for a third party ?????”

Yup, I’ll never vote for another republican on a national ticket. Will not vote for a democrat ever. If there is no viable 3rd party candidate on the ballot, I will stay home....red


8 posted on 09/28/2013 8:35:43 AM PDT by rednek ("Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.")
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To: Hojczyk

...there has to be a second party first...


9 posted on 09/28/2013 8:37:38 AM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Hojczyk

Words fail. Boo hoo. Bob Corker is frustrated. Hey Bob, you wanna see frustrated, check with your constituents.


10 posted on 09/28/2013 8:38:27 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

And while you are at it think 2014 elections.


11 posted on 09/28/2013 8:38:35 AM PDT by sport
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To: Hojczyk

The GOP in congress has to decide whether it wants to be an opposition party or not. This has been a long time coming and the issues we face now have no room for business as usual anymore.

This is why the RINOs are screaming. Its the beginning of the end for them. THEY are the reactionaries.


12 posted on 09/28/2013 8:38:39 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Hojczyk

> “Senator Lindsey Graham...“At the end of the day,” he continues, “they’ve got to decide what kind of role they want to play, I’ve got to decide what kind of role I want to play to grow the Republican party and to save the country.”

Well Senator, I believe it is not you who will decide but the voters of South Carolina who will decide.


13 posted on 09/28/2013 8:38:46 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Perdogg

Write in Putin! That’s my plan if it’s Hillary vs. NJFatboy.


14 posted on 09/28/2013 8:39:03 AM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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To: Hojczyk
Lindsey Graham: “My fate is in my hands, not theirs, and they said some things about our colleagues that I just think are really out of line,”

A very telling and inaccurate assessment of his own situation that sheds light on his undeserved arrogance. If Grahamnesty would listen to someone like Cruz instead of John McCain, he would not have even been challenged for this upcoming election. Lindsissey, your fate is not in your hands, but in the hands of the voters of South Carolina.

15 posted on 09/28/2013 8:39:14 AM PDT by RatRipper (The political left are utterly evil and corrupt)
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To: Hojczyk

I called the National GOP and told them they could shove their Party. I don’t care if there is an election for dog catcher locally, I will not pull a lever for either a Democrat or Republican UNLESS the Republican has publicly pledged his/her support for the Tea Party and vice versa. PERIOD!


16 posted on 09/28/2013 8:39:33 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: Perdogg

What a nightmare that would be. McCain, Romney, and then Christie. I wouldn’t put it past the GOPe.


17 posted on 09/28/2013 8:39:55 AM PDT by grimalkin (The riddles of God are more satisfying than the solutions of man. -G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Hojczyk

...are these people ever going to fight for anything? Or are they just going to sit their with dumb looks on their faces and the thumbs up their asses?


18 posted on 09/28/2013 8:40:33 AM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Logical me

Not going to happen. The Elite Republicans have too much money backing them. They are playing their sheep like a fisherman plays a fish or a cat plays a mouse.


19 posted on 09/28/2013 8:40:41 AM PDT by sport
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To: Hojczyk

Cruz, in a way, did the job of the cavalry scout this week.

He went deep into the “danger zone”
Drew fire.
Exposed positions.
Disrupted the other side.
Revealed weaknesses with his side’s generalship.

And gave the good guys a crystal clear map of the battlefield so we know what to do in 2014.

I call this a huge victory for us.


20 posted on 09/28/2013 8:41:06 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Hojczyk
McCain, Graham and Corker are the vacuum.

The are exactly the reason the gop is in its current leadership cunumbrum.

I'd through rove is as well.

21 posted on 09/28/2013 8:41:21 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: Hojczyk

22 posted on 09/28/2013 8:41:27 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Hojczyk

“...Time for a third party...”
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Which would accomplish...
...what was that again?
I can’t remember.


23 posted on 09/28/2013 8:41:39 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Hostage

They decided they wanted Lindsey Graham.


24 posted on 09/28/2013 8:42:06 AM PDT by sport
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To: Hojczyk
One Senate aide blamed Corker’s spotlight-grabbing role as Cruz’s foil on weak Republican leadership. “Because our leadership has not led for a number of months because of electoral politics, Senator McCain and Senator Graham and Senator Corker have sort of emerged as sort of de facto leaders in a leadership vacuum,” he says.

Is this McLame's aide spouting this BS. If anyone has emerged as leaders in the Senate it has been Cruz, Paul, and Lee not these other doddering, feckless clowns.

25 posted on 09/28/2013 8:43:13 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: rrrod

Says it all.


26 posted on 09/28/2013 8:45:32 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: sport

Oh? Did the 2014 election already happen?


27 posted on 09/28/2013 8:48:43 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: sport
Graham is going to get his ass handed to him this election.

/johnny

28 posted on 09/28/2013 8:50:31 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Hojczyk
Time for a third party ?????

No. The Republican Party is a broken down, rat infested house with a yard full of weeds and trash. The Tea Party should do what is necessary to secure ownership of the property, kill the weeds, take out the trash, drown the rats and spruce the place up to make it look attractive to everyone else in the neighborhood. In fact, invite them over for a tour once the cleanup work is done. Perhaps the neighbors will visit more often once they realize decent people have moved in.
29 posted on 09/28/2013 8:51:53 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Repeal The 17th

it must take a lot of balls to keep hanging onto the Republican “dream”...


30 posted on 09/28/2013 8:53:12 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: Hojczyk

I understand the third party sentiment. I really do. However, I would rather clean house in the Republican Party first. It’s been stolen from us and we need to get it back.


31 posted on 09/28/2013 8:54:12 AM PDT by grimalkin (The riddles of God are more satisfying than the solutions of man. -G.K. Chesterton)
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“I wouldn’t want to test it to see if it could go much higher,” he adds. “Failure is hard. People don’t like failure.”

Fixed it.

32 posted on 09/28/2013 8:54:12 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Perdogg
If the GOP nominates Christie in 2016 I may stay home.

LOL!
"May"?
I vow here and now, and may God strike me down if I lie, I will never vote for Pork Porkie or Jeb Bush.

Bookmarked.

33 posted on 09/28/2013 8:54:16 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: VanDeKoik
Re your #20, You are absolutely correct.
34 posted on 09/28/2013 8:55:13 AM PDT by tnwalker
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To: LostInBayport

Ya but sometimes you just have to condemn the property and move to a new neighborhood... you stay and clean the rat feces, I’ve moved on...


35 posted on 09/28/2013 8:55:55 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: Hojczyk
America has a leadership deficiency and here we are in an economic depression that makes 1939 look like a picnic. The economy is on its a$$ and the clown in the White House wants more taxes for healthcare. Sheesh.

The only thing we have to fear is more tax collections by obama and the democrats.

36 posted on 09/28/2013 8:56:14 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Vlad the Impaler proposed no path to citizenhip. Consider that.)
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To: Hojczyk
We have a law that was passed without any input from any Pubs. We have a law that was pushed through even though the 40th vote against it was elected in a special election. We have a law that fundamentally alters our status from being free citizens to serfs of the state.

The only reason I can think of that the Pubs don't fight at every turn is they have exempted themselves and think of themselves as the ruling class over the serfs.

37 posted on 09/28/2013 8:57:04 AM PDT by wmfights
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"Time for a third party ?????

ABSOLUTELY NOT !!!

The Tea Party is gaining steam in the Republican Party; why would it want to lose this momentum and lose Republican votes?

38 posted on 09/28/2013 8:58:29 AM PDT by celmak
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To: Hojczyk

No, Ted Cruz is the leader.

That’s all no one else.

Outside of Mike lee, the rest of the GOP is useless panty waste, and it is time to take out the trash.


39 posted on 09/28/2013 8:59:58 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Logical me
"Or clean out and reorganize the Republican Party. I'm disgusted with McCain and Graham"

Correct! The Tea Party within the Republican Party can possibly primary these two fools; outside the Republican, Party the, the chances are much slimmer.

40 posted on 09/28/2013 9:02:09 AM PDT by celmak
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To: Hojczyk
Yo Tom Coburn, if you happen to be lurking here...

Just stay in Washington. Don't even bother to come back here. Stay in Washington with your good friend Barack H. Obama.

41 posted on 09/28/2013 9:06:07 AM PDT by OKSooner (What's the NCAA gonna do, suspend OSU from the first half of its first game next season?)
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To: Hojczyk

A third party will just advance the Dem’s power in the next election cycle. Time to go all out to primary the RINO’s & get good conservatives in office. Especially in Red States like Tennessee.


42 posted on 09/28/2013 9:07:46 AM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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43 posted on 09/28/2013 9:10:02 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I hope, but I thought the same about MC Cain. That did not happen so I went back to the ,”Never predict what a voter or jury will do.” saying.


44 posted on 09/28/2013 9:11:33 AM PDT by sport
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To: JRandomFreeper

“Graham is going to get his ass handed to him this election.”

He supported amnesty and got away with it. Why is this different?


45 posted on 09/28/2013 9:12:53 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Hostage

Nope. They decided that 2008. On the first Tuesday in November 2014, they will again decide who they prefer.


46 posted on 09/28/2013 9:15:33 AM PDT by sport
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To: VanDeKoik
Cruz, in a way, did the job of the cavalry scout this week.

That's exactly what I've been thinking. Now we have a nice little list of who not to contribute to.

47 posted on 09/28/2013 9:17:21 AM PDT by Liberty Wins ( The average lefty is synapse challenged)
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To: Repeal The 17th
Which would accomplish...
...what was that again?
I can’t remember.

Advances for conservatism, defeat of progressives of either party. I am so sick of those who refuse to consider the possibility of a new party rising from the ashes of the GOP. Ross Perot was ahead in the polls after 3 months of campaigning, until he exposed himself as a lunatic. A third party would not need to be a suicide mission. It would run in strategically targeted races against candidates that need to be defeated with candidates that can win. In South Carolina, the party can endorse a conservative Republican to take out Goober in a runoff. In a state like Arizona with open primaries where McCain wins with Democrat votes, the party can run a conservative under its own banner. In the Presidential election, the party can field its own candidate. It can endorse conservative Republicans and run against progressive Republicans. In Congress, they can caucus with Republicans, and have greater leverage to get powerful committee chairmanships.

In other words, it would work like a parliamentary system where there are often 3 or more major parties and one group tries to put together a governing coalition. It would be interesting to see if the GOPe preferred to govern with conservatives or Democrats. I think they like Democrats better, and are really the "go-slow" wing of the progressive movement. It really is not about Democrat vs. Republican. It is Progressive vs. Conservative, and when you realize that, you realize that it really doesn't matter much if a Mitch McConnell loses his race. If he runs the Senate, there is no way in hell he will ever vote to repeal Obamacare in a vote that will matter. There is no way in hell he won't vote for amnesty if it is going to pass and his vote is needed. So why do we care about him versus a truthful Democrat? Same crap, different cronies.

48 posted on 09/28/2013 9:20:43 AM PDT by Defiant (A rainbow curtain has descended upon the west, from Munich to San Francisco.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Graham is going to get his ass handed to him this election.

After the 2010 election victories all we heard from hopeful conservatives is that Obama is never going to get reelected. Look what happened.

It will be very, very difficult to unseat Ms. Lindsey.

Remember S.C. has an open primary system.

The elites in both parties are hell bent on destroying any Conservative.

49 posted on 09/28/2013 9:22:57 AM PDT by sand88
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To: Hojczyk

If this frustrates them, they ain’t seen nothin’ yet. Think how frustrated they will be in 2014 when they find they have abused and lost their base. They will probably go along with amnesty too. Think how frustrated they will be when illegals don’t vote for them either.

Lats add some insult to their injury for 2016. When they force Jeb or fatass on people, the frustration will be high gear!


50 posted on 09/28/2013 9:28:13 AM PDT by dforest
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