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Casa Grande Dispatch/AP ^ | September 28, 2013 | DAVID ESPO AP Special Correspondent

Posted on 09/28/2013 10:33:34 AM PDT by mdittmar

Showdown at Capitol moves into weekend

WASHINGTON — Time running short, the Democratic-controlled Senate passed urgent legislation Friday to avert a government shutdown early next week, and President Barack Obama lectured House Republicans to stop “appeasing the tea party” and quickly follow suit.

Despite the presidential plea — and the urgings of their own leaders — House GOP rebels showed no sign of retreat in their drive to use the threat of a shutdown to uproot the nation’s three-year-old health care law.

“We now move on to the next stage of this battle,” said Sen. Ted Cruz, the Texas Republican who is a face of the “Defund Obamacare” campaign in the Senate and is in close contact with allies in the House.

(Excerpt) Read more at trivalleycentral.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 09/28/2013 10:33:34 AM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

It’s OK. Our GOP rebels are “vetted rebels” so it should be OK but they’re not backed by the GOPe olde guard. The GOPe leadership is still trying to figure out why they are no longer the leaders.


2 posted on 09/28/2013 10:36:24 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: mdittmar

Barack Obama lectured ?
The same punk who couldn’t get one vote for his proposed budget last year?
Barack Obama lectured ? Tell this punk to go pound sand


3 posted on 09/28/2013 10:39:33 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: mdittmar

If there is a shut down, will the rats again be on TV with their rubber chickens and bottles of ketchup?


4 posted on 09/28/2013 10:41:34 AM PDT by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: SERKIT

They are not the leaders.

They need conservatives.

They took conservatives for granted.

Now there are conservatives in the freshman class who refuse to be turned with temptations and bribes. They are doing their jobs.

GOPe is finished. It will be, in so many ways, like cleaning out the attic. But, because we are moving, it has to be done.


5 posted on 09/28/2013 10:44:19 AM PDT by stanne
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To: mdittmar

I cannot believe that someone posted an AP editorial disguised as a news story from the Casa Grande Dispatch, The worst newspaper in the history of newspapers.


6 posted on 09/28/2013 10:48:26 AM PDT by Tupelo (There are no Republicans or Democrats in Washington. Just Millionaires protecting their turf.)
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To: mdittmar

Wow! Maybe some hope after all. If the shutdown happens get prepared for the worst rotten lying bunch of crap from the communists Democrats. Lets do it, shut that rat face down, close government!


7 posted on 09/28/2013 10:49:01 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: mdittmar

This is all a joke...

Like strict term limits at all levels of government....Never happen...

Like our lawless violent open borders...They’ll nevery be secured.

Like govenrment taxing, regulating and controlling nearly everything you do or touch, including healthcare...It will be forcibly shoved down your throats.


8 posted on 09/28/2013 10:51:51 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: mdittmar
Time running short, the Democratic-controlled Senate passed urgent legislation Friday to avert a government shutdown early next week...

So, according to AP, the Dems have done their part. Just waiting on those pesky Republicans.

9 posted on 09/28/2013 10:53:29 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Proportionally, Ft. Hood is to Ft. Worth as Washington Navy Yard is to Arlington, VA.)
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To: mdittmar

It is not the Republicans threatening shutdown.

It is the adamant demand by Harry Reid in the Senate and the Current Occupant now squatting in the White Hut that are making the threats, permitting only three options, “My way, my way, or my way”.

I don’t know, they come off sounding like whiny kids having a tantrum about nap time, or something.

Shutting down the Federal government does not mean that oxygen will disappear from the atmosphere, or that the sea basins shall become dust bowls, or that the surface of the earth fractures, burying us all in a hot flow of magma. It does mean that whining and crying aside, a very real discipline gets enforced upon those who cannot or will not give credence to repeated warnings and admonitions.

Because if this course of imprudent spending and assigning of unsustainable entitlements is not reversed, there WILL come a day when the Federal government shall be compelled to shut down, for real and maybe for quite a long time.


10 posted on 09/28/2013 10:59:02 AM PDT by alloysteel (Those who deny natural climate change are forever doomed to stupidity. AGW is a LIE.)
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To: Tupelo

Are you from Casa Grande? Really, I somehow doubt it’s the “worst ever.” As long as the AZ Republic remains in print, CGD will always be second worst in AZ, at best. But if you were talking about AP, I’d agree. The worst wire service ever, always has been.


11 posted on 09/28/2013 11:00:04 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: mdittmar

Waaaahhh. Waaaaaaaaaah.


12 posted on 09/28/2013 11:00:08 AM PDT by AdaGray (Primary Them All)
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To: stanne

Big DITTOs!!!


13 posted on 09/28/2013 11:00:53 AM PDT by AdaGray (Primary Them All)
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To: SERKIT

The GOPe are not the leaders anymore because they have betrayed real Americans that are not users and losers like most Democrats are.

I’m 63 but I’ll be damned if I ever trust another politician my age again. Especially if they’ve been in politics ever since they grew hair on their cojones.

I want some more like Ted Cruz...I want some 40 somethings that have a wife and kids and looking at what this country is going to be like for their little girls and their little boys and they don’t like what they see one damn bit. I want some bellys on fire and some frames standing tall and defiant. I’ll be there with them. And if what needs to happen is for me to forego something or to help out, I’ll do it.

I just want to see these socialist, foreign bastards and these inbred, ingrained politicians erased from our rolls. I want a sovereign country with real borders and I want these Muslim jihadists out of my country.


14 posted on 09/28/2013 11:01:31 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: stanne
They took conservatives for granted.

Actually, we were not taken for granted, we were silenced, stifled, and suppressed. The GOPe has no regard for conservatism.

15 posted on 09/28/2013 11:03:43 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: stanne

Can’t WAIT to watch McConnell squirm in his Primary. I, for one, will be donating to Matt Bevin and I am from New York. I understand there is huge anger at Cornyn in Texas for being a RINO squish.


16 posted on 09/28/2013 11:04:09 AM PDT by AdaGray (Primary Them All)
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To: mdittmar

Here’s how I think it will go - zero will circumvent the House and issue an EO to fund everything there is to fund (including his next 57 vacations . . . . . . which he will take between now and Christmas!)!

There is no point in continuing to pay the Congress and all their perks when zero will do whatever he wants via EO. Adjourn the Congress so zero can have some extra spending money for Christmas.


17 posted on 09/28/2013 11:09:41 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for the American politburo!!)
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To: mdittmar

My loins are girded. *SMIRK*


18 posted on 09/28/2013 11:09:53 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: SERKIT

They need conservatives.


19 posted on 09/28/2013 11:14:48 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Tupelo

And put it in breaking news.


20 posted on 09/28/2013 11:16:26 AM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: Joe Boucher
Barack Obama lectured ?

Why of course (sic) he is. He was a Constitutional Lecturer and just sees TP and House/Senate conservatives as students.

21 posted on 09/28/2013 11:18:11 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Tupelo
I cannot believe that someone posted an AP editorial disguised as a news story from the Casa Grande Dispatch, The worst newspaper in the history of newspapers.

The poll at the bottom right is running almost two-to-one in favor of shutdown.

22 posted on 09/28/2013 11:24:29 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: mdittmar
the Democratic-controlled Senate passed urgent legislation Friday to avert a government shutdown early next week, and President Barack Obama lectured House Republicans to stop “appeasing the tea party” and quickly follow suit.

You gotta love it. No, dear reporter, the House passed this first, the Senate refused to pass it as presented to them and changed it, and sent it back to the House.

Completely false narrative presented here right off the bat.

23 posted on 09/28/2013 11:25:19 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Gaffer

Oh Yeah!! Awesome post!


The GOPe are not the leaders anymore because they have betrayed real Americans that are not users and losers like most Democrats are.

I’m 63 but I’ll be damned if I ever trust another politician my age again. Especially if they’ve been in politics ever since they grew hair on their cojones.

I want some more like Ted Cruz...I want some 40 somethings that have a wife and kids and looking at what this country is going to be like for their little girls and their little boys and they don’t like what they see one damn bit. I want some bellys on fire and some frames standing tall and defiant. I’ll be there with them. And if what needs to happen is for me to forego something or to help out, I’ll do it.

I just want to see these socialist, foreign bastards and these inbred, ingrained politicians erased from our rolls. I want a sovereign country with real borders and I want these Muslim jihadists out of my country.


And, btw, what is so bad about a government shutdown? Sounds like a great plan to me!


24 posted on 09/28/2013 11:30:16 AM PDT by boxlunch (Psalm 2)
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To: mdittmar
Reid saying "his" Senate would not pass a bill that defunds ZeroCare, and the pResident saying he would veto such a bill is an explicit admission that the Dems are the ones willing to shut down the government. Only the media spin protects them from appearing like they would, instead laying "blame" on the Repubs for political purposes.

If (we can hope) a shutdown occurs, the Dems have already said that ZeroCare won't be affected. Strange, huh?

25 posted on 09/28/2013 11:34:33 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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26 posted on 09/28/2013 11:35:32 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: mdittmar
House GOP rebels showed no sign of retreat in their drive to use the threat of a shutdown to uproot the nation’s three-year-old health care law.

This line, right here, is why the Repubs always lose: they let the media define them. Instead, the Repubs should be shouting from the rooftops that it's the Dems refusal to negotiate and their unmovable stance on the unaffordable 'Affordable Care Act' that will shut down the government.

I have not seen any Repub actually threaten a shutdown to defund ZeroCare.

27 posted on 09/28/2013 11:38:41 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: dragnet2
Like govenrment taxing, regulating and controlling nearly everything you do or touch, including healthcare...

Isn't it funny how they want to control everything except the borders?

28 posted on 09/28/2013 11:42:06 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Joe Boucher
The same punk who couldn’t get one vote for his proposed budget last year?

Boy, that gets totally forgotten, even for political junkies like me. This needs to be mentioned every five minutes by the Republicans. Of course, they don't call them the stupid party for nothing.

29 posted on 09/28/2013 11:46:07 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Buck Off, Bronco Bama)
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To: Senator_Blutarski

It is...And why some people need to be told, none of this is by accident..

The borders could have been easily secured and controlled decades ago, but government never had any intention of doing that.


30 posted on 09/28/2013 11:51:15 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Boehner should do this. Put a delay in to go into effect January 1, 2015. He should add funding for Keystone.

He should then hold a press conference. In it, he unloads on the media, telling them to do their freaking jobs instead of trying to work with the rats to shutdown the country and blame the republicans for it.

Then every republican goes on the offensive against the media.


31 posted on 09/28/2013 11:58:24 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Make today a great day. Insult a liberal.)
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To: mdittmar
U. S. House of Representatives

Tell them to defund Obamacare.

32 posted on 09/28/2013 12:02:23 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: mdittmar; All
Regarding constitutionally indefensible Obamacare, the House actually needs to demand that the Senate supports the House's resolution to propose an appropriate healthcare amendment to the Constitution to the states for ratification. Democratic and RINO lawmakers in the House have wrongly ignored this constitutionally required step to establish federal public healthcare for years, even after RINOs regained control of the House in 2010 elections.
H. J. Res. 30:
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States regarding the right of citizens of the United States to health care of equal high quality.

Activist justices don't want citizens to know that only if the states CHOOSE to ratify such a proposed healthcare amendment to the Constitution will Congress actually have the constitutional authority that it needs to establish Obamacare.

33 posted on 09/28/2013 12:45:30 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: SERKIT

I watched Ted Cruz during his valiant effort to halt the disaster called Obamacare. I hope you watched it as well. If he has used it once, he used the phrase “...we no longer listen to the people, our constituents...” over a hundred times. And he was right...they don’t. And the fact is, THEY NO LONGER NEED TO.

I’ve sent my little rant on this topic before but Ted’s honest comment compels me to do so again.

Dick Bachert
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WHY THE POLITICAL RULING CLASS NO LONGER LISTENS TO US!

Among others, Thomas Jefferson warned that the financial disaster we now face would be but one of many problems paper money would visit upon us if we allowed our “leaders” to remove the backing from the currency, to wit:

“When the servants of the people are paid with something other than that which the people themselves have produced (i.e. the real, tangible products of their labors or some fixed and real medium of that exchange), the roles of master and servant will be reversed.”

It was believed by Roger Sherman and a majority of those at the Constitutional Convention that un-backed currency would so damage the fabric of the nation that they ATTEMPTED to prohibit it with these few words at Article 1, Section 10, requiring the states to enforce the prohibition: “No State shall…make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts;”

If the people and their states grew inattentive to this matter (and they have!), Jefferson also saw this problem ahead:

In a letter to John Taylor in 1816, he wrote, “And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale.”

We have been “…swindling futurity…” for a long time and this is now where we find ourselves. If the government, through its banker masters at the Federal Reserve, can create “money” from thin air, they certainly don’t need ours every April 15th. That annual sheep shearing is simply an attempt to vacuum enough of the excess paper from the system to keep the rest of us from catching on to the biggest theft ring in the history of man. They have now created so much that their attempt is failing and failing badly to a point where all but the dullest among us (Obama voters and his growing cadres of personal and corporate welfare beneficiaries) are starting to “get it.”

If you understood that last paragraph, you can now make the small leap to an understanding as to why the “progressive” utopian welfare state hacks in Washington don’t give a damn WHAT you think. Their power to create all the “money” they need to fuel their infernal machine and fill the gaping maws of enough of those hoards of welfare constituents to assure their perpetual re-election means that — ready — THEY NO LONGER NEED YOU! They have become, as Mr. Jefferson predicted, our MASTERS.

That they are taking down a nation and a system that has provided more wealth, safety and abundance to more people than any other in history matters not to them. Failing to grasp the lesson of the French Revolution, they believe themselves to be above the impending disaster.

We’re running out of time to get this increasingly rapacious beast back into the cage from which we have carelessly allowed it to escape.


34 posted on 09/28/2013 1:25:58 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is not bliss. It is the road to serfdom.)
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To: Gaffer

Amen!


35 posted on 09/28/2013 2:39:46 PM PDT by Gritty (We are quickly running out of "boxes"...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
didn't realize they still made those things !    lol
36 posted on 09/28/2013 2:48:16 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: mdittmar

The Casa Grande newspaper? Seriously? I live right up the highway from them in Maricopa, and that paper is a notch above the Maricopa Monitor, but just barely, lol.


37 posted on 09/28/2013 2:51:29 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: Senator_Blutarski
Isn't it funny how they want to control everything except the borders?

and spending.

38 posted on 09/29/2013 2:56:54 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Keystone is an industry project. It has not been looking for funding, just the permits to proceed.

That's right, 80,000 jobs and a step toward (north) American energy independence, not asking for money, just the go-ahead.

They have held the permits up with every excuse they can come by.

39 posted on 09/29/2013 3:01:08 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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