Posted on 09/28/2013 1:37:44 PM PDT by neverdem
Constitutionally defund it ping!
I don’t think Cruz and Lee took Republican leaders seriously. I think they knew all about them and what they would do.
They should selectively fund the government — cutting funds from the most eggregiously liberal programs.
Great article!
I sent the speaker this today via his email
In September 17, 2009, Congressman Charlie Rangel introduced H.R. 3590, titled the “Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009” to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 modifying the first-time homebuyers credit for members of the Armed Forces and certain other Federal employees. Nancy Pelosi was Speaker of the House and John Boehner was the minority leader when this bill passed on October 8, 2009 by a 416-0 vote. This bill went to the Senate where Majority Leader Harry Reid gutted H.R. 3590, deleted all the contents after the first sentence, and replaced it with what became the “Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act” of November 19, 2009.
Article I, Section 7, which states that “All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.” The key idea is that the Supreme Court recently upheld the individual mandate as a tax; so it is a bill for raising revenue. That means that the Affordable Care Act must have begun in the House of Representatives. And it did not.” Therefore the Senate is in violation of the Constitution by funding something the house cut.
Ignore Reid tell him to read Article I, Section 7 and the SCOTUS decision [see above] and send the bill to the president and tell him as a constitutional scholar he has to sign or veto. Call his redline bluff because youre just following the oath everybody took.
Amen to that!
Another great article by someone who knows how the government is "supposed" to be funded.
Thank you Andrew for taking alot of posters here on FR to school.DEFUND IT AND KILL IT. Stop the stupid political games.
This sounds like it should be a good argument before the United States Supreme Court!
The Supreme Joke had it’s chance and ran away from it. That’s why they called it a tax. They weren’t up to the task of facing all the constitutional issues this monstrosity posed, so they kicked the can down the road. Cowards!
We need to defund or get rid of it; not delay it.
Congress should defund any and every program in the federal government. Who says that we should still have to slave under some ridiculous scheme conceived by a bunch of shysters that are all dead and buried? This practice that once a program is enacted its a permanent responsibility of future generations is absolutely despotic. In fact we should amend the Constitution so that every program should have to be reenacted every two years similar to Article I, Section 8, Clause 12.
Our framers came fairly close to grafting the British Parliamentary model onto the Constitution, in which the House of Commons alone determined spending.
To provide better protection from wild spending, concurrence of the senate and president were added.
Oh well.
Correct. The author is incorrect if he thinks Cruz and Lee ever took that bunch seriously. But, they have to “wave the dead chicken,” as it were, to prove to people watching the GOPe leaders are not serious about shrinking Big Government. Sometimes we have a good reason to follow what seems to be a futile course, not related to reaching the goal.
They probably thought we weren’t stupid enough to go the party system.
The Senate and President were not supposed to be directly elected by “the people” either. The state legislatures got the shaft, but they have only themselves to blame because they ratified the 17th Amendment.
And yet ObamaCare originated in the Senate.
The bold point (which is central to this part of the author's point) is a strained reading of Article I. The Constitution says (as the author quotes) that all "bills for raising revenue" must originate in the House, and that the Senate may concur or propose amendments. Nowhere does the Constitution say that the Senate's amendments cannot include additional appropriations - all the Constitution says is that the bill itself must originate in the House.
Obama will blow up our republic, hopefully leave in 2017, and retire into a fantasy land of unearned wealth.
If the House wanted to it could fund it down to the specific toothbrush level. Iow They can fund what they want and not fund what they don’t want. Sadly the “What they want” has been the problem over the last few decades. Time to say ,”Goodbye” to the free spenders and anti-constitutionals.
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